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Title: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Radament on June 17, 2014, 03:16:58 pm
Bullshit (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/06/17/rainbow-six-patriots-canceled/#more-213371)
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: IR_Kuoin on June 17, 2014, 03:23:28 pm
Patriots looks pretty boring compared. I've played almost every R6 game and Siege reminds me a lot of R6: Lockdown so I'm down and hyped for this.
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: cmp on June 17, 2014, 03:41:32 pm
It reminds you of the worst R6 game in the whole series and you're hyped for it?
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Logen on June 17, 2014, 03:46:37 pm
ravenshield best
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Radament on June 17, 2014, 03:49:06 pm
Patriots looks pretty boring compared. I've played almost every R6 game and Siege reminds me a lot of R6: Lockdown so I'm down and hyped for this.

yes but if you read , they said : ‘OK, we want to also have a next-gen experience. What can we do for that?’

....fucking destruction? is this next gen ? i mean ....you saw the trailer and you call destruction when a shotgun can destroy a wall? ok , maybe they are going to fix it but what rainbow six fan wanted was a tactical shooter with smooth gameplay and they canceled Patriots because it was old gen? i don't really understand their objectives , there's no real tactical game other than Insurgency or Arma right now , all are focused on making shitty MOBAS cause it's a money maker genre and everyone is scared to recreate an old genre which is tactical shooters.



i really hope Siege will be a good game but they canceled the game all rainbow six fan wanted imho.
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: IR_Kuoin on June 17, 2014, 04:20:44 pm
It reminds you of the worst R6 game in the whole series and you're hyped for it?

Lockdown is the one I enjoyed the most in SP along with R6 3
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Laufknoten on June 17, 2014, 05:20:53 pm
Rainbow Six: Rogue Spear best Rainbow Six.

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Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Xant on June 17, 2014, 05:21:34 pm
there's no real tactical game other than Insurgency or Arma right now
How is Insurgency more tactical than CoD?

Rainbow Six: Rogue Spear best Rainbow Six.

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I remember how I disliked Raven Shield for having visible weapon models, Rogue Spear having been the only FPS I'd played
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on June 17, 2014, 05:26:41 pm
CoD doesn't give a fuck about suppression.
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Xant on June 17, 2014, 05:29:08 pm
CoD doesn't give a fuck about suppression.
Barely a factor in Insurgency either. You can suppress in any game with guns: just shoot at a place, if someone pops out, they get hit. They don't want to get hit, so they don't pop out. Ta da, suppressed.
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on June 17, 2014, 05:30:31 pm
Spawn placement?
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Xant on June 17, 2014, 05:32:52 pm
Spawn placement?
What about it?

Fact is, Insurgency is a super casual run-and-gun shooter with a low skill ceiling. CS is ten times more "tactical."
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Rumblood on June 17, 2014, 05:42:39 pm
What about it?

Fact is, Insurgency is a super casual run-and-gun shooter with a low skill ceiling. CS is ten times more "tactical."

Insurgency stole his candy as a kid.
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Xant on June 17, 2014, 06:18:01 pm
Insurgency stole his candy as a kid.
Just disappointed at how easy the game is. But clearly, if I don't think it's god's gift to gaming (as most people don't, or it'd be a lot more popular), it "stole my candy."
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Vibe on June 17, 2014, 06:35:50 pm
What about it?

Fact is, Insurgency is a super casual run-and-gun shooter with a low skill ceiling. CS is ten times more "tactical."

I wouldn't say CS is that much more tactical so to say, I mean both have points that need to be assaulted/defended and several routes to it and team work. But skill ceiling definitely is much lower in Insurgency, due to how guns work.
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Xant on June 17, 2014, 06:47:41 pm
I wouldn't say CS is that much more tactical so to say, I mean both have points that need to be assaulted/defended and several routes to it and team work. But skill ceiling definitely is much lower in Insurgency, due to how guns work.
CS has no sprint, and spray-and-pray doesn't work in it (unlike Insurgency). Also the smokes and flashes, plus a lot better (competitive) map-design.
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Radament on June 17, 2014, 07:06:36 pm
What about it?

Fact is, Insurgency is a super casual run-and-gun shooter with a low skill ceiling. CS is ten times more "tactical."

well , if you play like that it's your problem.

anyways ....it has leaning , (oh but you surely will say in cs leaning doesn't matter...) , slow paced (but you surely will say cs doesn't need to be slow cuz you dead).

seriously , tell me which fps is tactical for you so we can stop here.

oh , i see rogue spear is the only fps you played.....yes it's tactical but if you never played other tactical shooter you shouldn't even want to discuss about other games.
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Xant on June 17, 2014, 07:15:25 pm
well , if you play like that it's your problem.

anyways ....it has leaning , (oh but you surely will say in cs leaning doesn't matter...) , slow paced (but you surely will say cs doesn't need to be slow cuz you dead).

seriously , tell me which fps is tactical for you so we can stop here.

oh , i see rogue spear is the only fps you played.....yes it's tactical but if you never played other tactical shooter you shouldn't even want to discuss about other games.
I play in the way that's most efficient in all games. Running and gunning works the best in Insurgency (and red dot sight makes ADS useless in most cases), and I stopped playing it because I was raping too hard and barely doing anything impressive skill-wise.

Insurgency is a lot faster paced than CS.

Arma can be tactical, Rainbow sixes at and before Raven Shield are tactical.

"Rogue spear is the only FPS you played", wat? I mean.. not only do you have to fail at reading what I wrote when I wrote about Rogue Spear, but you also have to like... what? I've been talking about CS and Insurgency in this thread, haven't I?
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Rumblood on June 17, 2014, 07:18:04 pm
Just disappointed at how easy the game is. But clearly, if I don't think it's god's gift to gaming (as most people don't, or it'd be a lot more popular), it "stole my candy."

If you were disappointed you wouldn't play it and move on like everyone else. But clearly, when you criticize it in every post you make in a thread that isn't even about Insurgency, it in no way means that you have been personally insulted in some manner by its existence.

#convinced
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Xant on June 17, 2014, 07:19:20 pm
If you were disappointed you wouldn't play it and move on like everyone else. But clearly, when you criticize it in every post you make in a thread that isn't even about Insurgency, it in no way means that you have been personally insulted in some manner by its existence.

#convinced
In a shocking turn of events, I don't play it....

Like I said in my previous post.
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Radament on June 17, 2014, 07:22:11 pm
CS has no sprint, and spray-and-pray doesn't work in it (unlike Insurgency). Also the smokes and flashes, plus a lot better (competitive) map-design.


so sprint is not to be considered tactical ?
you can spray-and-pray only with the AP rouds for the 7.62 weapons firing through walls , or fire in the smoke if you are lucky.
flashes and smokes are in...
map design are not very competitive yes , sometime unbalanced but who the fuck cares? who is playing competitive tactical shooter nowadays?

i miss the raven shield door opening ....but well this game is the only one that is going close to it.
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: SeQuel on June 17, 2014, 07:23:53 pm
To be fair, Insurgency is a terrible game and also a terrible design. They tried to be casual to the sense that the CoD crowd could play with some "hardcore" features that may attract others from Arma and games alike. It should of stayed a Half-Life mod where it could be excused of being terrible.
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Xant on June 17, 2014, 07:24:04 pm

so sprint is not to be considered tactical ?
you can spray-and-pray only with the AP rouds for the 7.62 weapons firing through walls , or fire in the smoke if you are lucky.
flashes and smokes are in...
map design are not very competitive yes , sometime unbalanced but who the fuck cares? who is playing competitive tactical shooter nowadays?

i miss the raven shield door opening ....but well this game is the only one that is going close to it.
Yep, sprint makes the game favor rushing much more.

Well, the thing in Insurgency really is that you don't have to spray and pray... you can just spray, and it'll go exactly where you want because pin-point accuracy and no recoil. I guess you misunderstand what the term means though, since you're talking about walls and smokes -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spray_and_pray
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Radament on June 17, 2014, 07:27:54 pm
Xant i really don't give a fuck what you think about this or that game  , i just enjoy playing it and i call it Tactical Shooter , stop.
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Vibe on June 17, 2014, 07:29:16 pm
whatever quake 3/live master race
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Xant on June 17, 2014, 07:30:35 pm
Xant i really don't give a fuck what you think about this or that game  , i just enjoy playing it and i call it Tactical Shooter , stop.
And I just enjoy saying it's not a tactical shooter, what the hell man????? I really don't give a fuck that you think differently, why are you replying to me and trying to prove me wrong?????? stop
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Radament on June 17, 2014, 07:31:55 pm
To be fair, Insurgency is a terrible game and also a terrible design. They tried to be casual to the sense that the CoD crowd could play with some "hardcore" features that may attract others from Arma and games alike. It should of stayed a Half-Life mod where it could be excused of being terrible.

what's the part you don't enjoy? design , yes i don't like it. and which are the other aspects? gamemodes are somewhat nice to me. realism? there's not such realism in that game but if you want realism you play arma.
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Radament on June 17, 2014, 07:33:20 pm
And I just enjoy saying it's not a tactical shooter, what the hell man????? I really don't give a fuck that you think differently, why are you replying to me and trying to prove me wrong?????? stop

are you fucking paranoid ? chill...
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: IR_Kuoin on June 17, 2014, 07:34:46 pm
Never argue with Xant, just give him the feeling that he was right and let it rest.
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Xant on June 17, 2014, 07:40:43 pm
are you fucking paranoid ? chill...
Our collection of terms you don't know the meaning of grows:
- Spray and pray
- paranoid
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Molly on June 17, 2014, 08:06:25 pm
Well, every FPS becomes tactical in a competitive environment.

Pubbing in CS is hardly tactical. Neither in any other FPS, I guess.
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Radament on June 17, 2014, 08:55:02 pm
Our collection of terms you don't know the meaning of grows:
- Spray and pray
- paranoid

ye , sorry if i can't be at a decent level of comprehension to discuss with you.

anyways the thread was related to Rainbow Six Patriots , you can discuss about it if you want.
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Clockworkkiller on June 17, 2014, 09:59:37 pm
the only Rainbow Six games ive playd are both the Vegas games, and those games are awesome. i still play Vegas 2 often.

i think siege looks pretty awesome
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: SeQuel on June 17, 2014, 10:06:15 pm
what's the part you don't enjoy? design , yes i don't like it. and which are the other aspects? gamemodes are somewhat nice to me. realism? there's not such realism in that game but if you want realism you play arma.

That's my point, it doesn't excel well in any category it trys to be but instead mixes a bunch of features from other games into one mesh and turns out to be a pile of poo. As for game modes, I can't comment on that as I've not played them.
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Logen on June 17, 2014, 10:32:11 pm
whatever quake 3/live master race
no, unreal tournament
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Xant on June 17, 2014, 11:18:43 pm
no, unreal tournament
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Osiris on June 17, 2014, 11:26:31 pm
hmm might get it. one of my fav games of mah younger years was R6 (played the shit out of the PS1)

Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Christo on June 18, 2014, 12:07:03 am
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

xant.exe is not responding
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Leshma on June 18, 2014, 01:20:58 am
SWAT3 was the first game of this type I've played, have very fond memories of that game. Ghost Recon was awesome as well.

Raven Shield was my first R6 and it was epic.

Giggle every time I read Xant or Kafein enjoying games like Rogue Spear. They're born after fall of Berlin wall, can't imagine 7 year old appreciating tactical game like R6. I was 13 when I played SWAT and wasn't able to fully understand the game.

We're dealing with prodigies in here.
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Radament on June 18, 2014, 01:28:30 am
Ghost Recon was awesome as well.

Ghost Recon is probably my fav after R6:RS , too bad the recent ghost recon (future soldier) is a complete shit even if the weapon customization is very detailed.
Swat 4 is my fav of the series.
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: BASNAK on June 18, 2014, 03:22:26 pm
SWAT3 was the first game of this type I've played, have very fond memories of that game. Ghost Recon was awesome as well.

Raven Shield was my first R6 and it was epic.

Giggle every time I read Xant or Kafein enjoying games like Rogue Spear. They're born after fall of Berlin wall, can't imagine 7 year old appreciating tactical game like R6. I was 13 when I played SWAT and wasn't able to fully understand the game.

We're dealing with prodigies in here.

SWAT 2 is the best SWAT :D

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Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Kafein on June 18, 2014, 03:35:26 pm
I have no idea what's going on here, but Leshma randomly writes my name.
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Jacko on June 18, 2014, 10:32:05 pm
Unreal?

Ah haha.
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Switchtense on June 19, 2014, 03:16:27 am
SWAT3 was the first game of this type I've played, have very fond memories of that game. Ghost Recon was awesome as well.

Raven Shield was my first R6 and it was epic.

Giggle every time I read Xant or Kafein enjoying games like Rogue Spear. They're born after fall of Berlin wall, can't imagine 7 year old appreciating tactical game like R6. I was 13 when I played SWAT and wasn't able to fully understand the game.

We're dealing with prodigies in here.

Really makes me wanna reinstall SWAT 3 and Raven Shield/Athena Sword.

SWAT 3 was my first FPS, had no idea what the fuck I was doing but it was fun as hell.
Still gutted there will be no SWAT5. Reintstalled SWAT4 recently and downloaded all the SWAT3 maps and shit.
Played Raven Shield when I was a bit older and actually knew how to play it. Insanely challenging and overall the most tactical shooter I have ever played.
Really dislike the way R6 has turned, it is becoming more and more a CoD game rather than a tactical shooter. Way too easy even on hardest difficulty compared to Raven Shield on like medium difficulty.

Gonna search my Raven Shield/Athena Sword CD tomorrow :D
Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Rumblood on June 20, 2014, 12:37:28 am
Our collection of terms you don't know the meaning of grows:
- Spray and pray
- paranoid

Title: Re: Why Rainbow Six Patriots Got Canceled In Favor Of Siege
Post by: Vibe on June 20, 2014, 11:32:37 am
SWAT 2 is the best SWAT :D

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I remember this :o