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Title: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: bagge on June 01, 2014, 09:52:33 pm


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Questions & Answers


Feel free to post your questions regarding the tournament and we will try to respond in a timely manner.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: jtobiasm on June 01, 2014, 10:28:25 pm
If only STF characters are allowed, how are you going to monitor who's in what clan?
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Tydeus on June 01, 2014, 10:36:19 pm
If only STF characters are allowed, how are you going to monitor who's in what clan?
Not only are name changes logged, we can easily see all the characters tied to any specific account as well. We'll be doing this when we check to make sure characters are actually STF and not of some other type.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Mendro on June 01, 2014, 11:41:25 pm
  • Each team may only consist of maxmimum three players from the same clan.
   

I don't understand : why this rule ?
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Thorondor on June 02, 2014, 12:43:22 am
same with mendro. that rule will push isolated clans/players like kapikulu out of the event.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Strudog on June 02, 2014, 10:23:35 am
My only question and some thing that arose last night while discussing Tizzango's team, he must have 5 or so Fallen on his team, but claims half of them are not Fallen because they don't have the tag.

E.g. himself, Jtobiasm and Darmaster.

What are the rules concerning this, it is well known these members are part of Fallen put they argue they are just 'banner leechers' and are in fact not part of the clan.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: jtobiasm on June 02, 2014, 10:37:39 am
Tizzango, lennu and darm are in fallen, I'm not. I'm officially a fallen friend, you can see this by my tag on fallen forums and haven't used fallen tag in over a year. Darmaster does use the tag and has done since he joined fallen
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: tizzango on June 02, 2014, 12:45:40 pm
My only question and some thing that arose last night while discussing Tizzango's team, he must have 5 or so Fallen on his team, but claims half of them are not Fallen because they don't have the tag.

E.g. himself, Jtobiasm and Darmaster.

What are the rules concerning this, it is well known these members are part of Fallen put they argue they are just 'banner leechers' and are in fact not part of the clan.

Yeah I was trolling.

Tobi is the only non-Fallen, this was because he had a difficult time going through adolescence; he is now 15 and has settled down, additionally we feed him twice a day now. But on a serious note, he hasn't officially reapplied to the Fallen, he just plays with us.

Of course when he does reapply he would most likely get in (I feel).

But I am curious about this rule as well.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Polobow on June 02, 2014, 12:48:04 pm
Any restrictions on equipment or gold, on a STF character?
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Gnjus on June 02, 2014, 12:59:54 pm
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Each team may only consist of maxmimum three players from the same clan.


That rule just doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: the real god emperor on June 02, 2014, 01:27:38 pm
If someone has a hunting crossbow and a DGS, is he/she being count as melee or ranged?
If ranged, wouldn't everyone grab Hunting Crossbows or throwing knifes to get more infantry?
If melee, shouldn't all rangers count as melee?

tl;dr : there should be an melee equipment limit for ranged classes.

*Fades away*
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Matze on June 02, 2014, 02:14:19 pm
How is going on with the Prize? Is the Price for the Team or for every player once?
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Molly on June 02, 2014, 03:29:48 pm
How is going on with the Prize? Is the Price for the Team or for every player once?
Every player in the team gets the prize when the following condition is complied:

A player in the team has to be apart of at least 50% of the matches in order to get a prize.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: witchkunold on June 02, 2014, 05:07:36 pm
I think that we should award Tydeus and bagge: *Most horrible description and unclear rules for Tournaments ever made*

Really, i joining to questions about *members of the same clan* and *number of melee restriction* (see Kratos's post)
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Renay on June 02, 2014, 05:30:16 pm
Down with clan rule! Ninjas have too many member for that rule, you have to remove it.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Jona on June 02, 2014, 09:09:44 pm
Just wondering, are all of these upcoming events restricted by server or by location? I.e. if people who live in NA wish to play in an EU tourney, or vice versa, they are allowed to do so? Obviously the event will be held on the appropriate server, not the one to accommodate them. Or are these events made so that if you currently reside in EU, you can only participate in EU tournaments, and if you live in NA, you can only play in NA tournaments?
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Tydeus on June 02, 2014, 11:07:34 pm
If someone has a hunting crossbow and a DGS, is he/she being count as melee or ranged? Ranged
If ranged, wouldn't everyone grab Hunting Crossbows or throwing knifes to get more infantry? No, because throwing is a ranged class.
Once you bring a ranged weapon, you are now a ranged character.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Tydeus on June 02, 2014, 11:15:56 pm
Or are these events made so that if you currently reside in EU, you can only participate in EU tournaments, and if you live in NA, you can only play in NA tournaments?
This is the preference since only 16 teams are allowed into the Group Stage. I know NA has a few EU players who play mostly NA and are even a part of an NA clan. In this situation, I see no reason why they shouldn't be able to play with a team from the opposite region. What we don't want though, is to allow entire teams of NA players taking up team slots on EU, and vice versa.

NA will have their own tournaments, we're just delaying everything by one week.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Jeraz on June 02, 2014, 11:30:23 pm
What about this:

I get 8 mercs.
5 of them leave merc (1 second before the matches start).
I now got no more then 3 people of the same clan!
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Strudog on June 02, 2014, 11:41:35 pm
This is the preference since only 16 teams are allowed into the Group Stage. I know NA has a few EU players who play mostly NA and are even a part of an NA clan. In this situation, I see no reason why they shouldn't be able to play with a team from the opposite region. What we don't want though, is to allow entire teams of NA players taking up team slots on EU, and vice versa.

NA will have their own tournaments, we're just delaying everything by one week.

if you make it only 3 people from one clan allowed in a team, im afraid you wont get 16 teams, you will get 8 at max.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: jtobiasm on June 02, 2014, 11:43:28 pm
What about this:

I get 8 mercs.
5 of them leave merc (1 second before the matches start).
I now got no more then 3 people of the same clan!

Great plan, but like tydues said, he is checking the logs and characters.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Jeraz on June 03, 2014, 08:14:51 am
Great plan, but like tydues said, he is checking the logs and characters.

i knows its nitpicking but he should have a "Not been part of their clan/banner for x days/months" rule. If i do the stated above i'm not breaking anny rules.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: the real god emperor on June 03, 2014, 08:54:34 am
Once you bring a ranged weapon, you are now a ranged character.

I just wrote a wall of text about this, I got it when I was about to post it :P

So it is allowed to get a full infantry team, but only cavalry and ranged are restricted.Thx.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: bagge on June 03, 2014, 09:05:06 am
To answer most of the posts in the thread:

Rules Changelog
Removed:
  • Each team may only consist of maxmimum three players from the same clan.

Teams will now be open to build as you please.

So it is allowed to get a full infantry team, but only cavalry and ranged are restricted.Thx.

No, at the moment it's max 3 infantry, simply because we want every class to be involved, not just 5 stack infantry teams (which will suck pretty much anyway).
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Moncho on June 03, 2014, 09:21:56 am
Thing is you could have 3 infantry and 2 "ranged" with a hunting xbow, no bolts, and melee weapons, which would technically count as ranged but effectively be infantry (with one less available slot)
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: jtobiasm on June 03, 2014, 09:35:15 am
Thing is you could have 3 infantry and 2 "ranged" with a hunting xbow, no bolts, and melee weapons, which would technically count as ranged but effectively be infantry (with one less available slot)

Yes you could, but like bagge said, that'd be pretty rubbish. Once you come up against a good archer or a HA he'll rip your team apart on nearly every one of the chosen maps.

@Bagge and tydues.
Is there going to be a rule where only the dedicated range player can loot. Like there was in the Clan league?
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: bagge on June 03, 2014, 09:51:01 am
@Bagge and tydues.
Is there going to be a rule where only the dedicated range player can loot. Like there was in the Clan league?

As for now looting will be allowed for all classes. I will post a more specific list soon.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Herezy92 on June 03, 2014, 10:56:46 am
Too much rules, kill the rules :)
Anyway, i'm glad that the rule limiting the amount of player from the same clan has been removed.
I still disagree with the inf limit-rule, but well, as you wish :)
(Could be fun to see full inf berserk team charging)
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Molly on June 03, 2014, 12:15:28 pm
[...]
(Could be fun to see full inf berserk team charging)
...and dying off one by one from headshots cuz the enemy ranged isn't pressured nor endangered by the berserk team :P
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Herezy92 on June 03, 2014, 01:12:38 pm
...and dying off one by one from headshots cuz the enemy ranged isn't pressured nor endangered by the berserk team :P
Exactly! :)

EDIT: C'mon gogogo ! Go make more teams, i want to make a BET
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: HarunYahya on June 03, 2014, 02:01:10 pm
When will this tournament take place ?
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: bagge on June 03, 2014, 03:44:04 pm
When will this tournament take place ?

Few days after the sign up deadline: 2014-07-01
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Renay on June 03, 2014, 06:54:26 pm
during the week or on weekends?
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: bagge on June 03, 2014, 07:04:56 pm
during the week or on weekends?

That is up to your captain.

3.1 Deadlines
  • Every round of the tournament will have a deadline. Each team is responsible for their match schedules. Any teams to have not decided on a time or has yet to play their match by that week’s deadline will be risking tournament disqualification. Schedule your match here. (http://forum.melee.org/scheduling/read-before-posting-61153/)

Threads for each round will be posted when the tournament starts. It will be 1 week for each round as it is now.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: bagge on June 04, 2014, 04:21:17 pm
Great rules, just some questions if i may cos you know how our community loves loopholes xD

1. Is loomed gear allowed? For me this comes under the same category as STF so i assume it's not but is there a ruling?
2. For 'ranged', do crossbow hybrids count? Cos presumably 2 players could just bring crossbows and join melee as a 5-man melee blob.

1. Yes, heirlooms will be allowed.
2. If you spawn with a ranged weapon you will count as ranged. I realise this rule has a lot of loopholes since it's cRPG and not Native where you just chose your class. If we discover any team abusing this rule the consiquences will be disqualification from the tournament for purposely ignoring the rules.

Builds should be checked. I think ranged should be restricted to max 50 wpf in a melee proficiency

I dont want to cap any WPF. If people chose to use gimp their ranged wpf for melee it's up to them.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Renay on June 04, 2014, 05:06:36 pm
I think throwing should count extra since otherwise it would never be used in a tournament.

teams should be like this

max 2 ranged
max 2 cav
max 3 infantry but one of the infantry can be a inf/throwing hybrid
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Cicero on June 04, 2014, 05:15:50 pm
I think throwing should count extra since otherwise it would never be used in a tournament.

teams should be like this

max 2 ranged
max 2 cav
max 3 infantry but one of the infantry can be a inf/throwing hybrid
2 archers or 2 cav for 5vs5 ?

U gotta kidding me.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Teeth on June 04, 2014, 05:20:12 pm
The rule for class composition should be to play whatever the fuck you want but that you gotta stick with the class you picked for the entire match. Seriously, give the game balance some credit, what is the worst that could happen?
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Lennu on June 04, 2014, 06:12:27 pm
Bring back the 3 clan mates rule.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: jtobiasm on June 04, 2014, 07:14:54 pm
Bring back the 3 clan mates rule.

+1
We'll have a clan tournament for clans
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Renay on June 04, 2014, 08:41:20 pm
really, throwing should have a different rule or you wont see a single thrower in this tournament
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: bagge on June 04, 2014, 08:47:41 pm
really, throwing should have a different rule or you wont see a single thrower in this tournament

The thing about throwers in cRPG is that they are used as a ranged class, a shotgun class kind of. Most of the throwers play like Mendro or Godwin. Are you telling that they are even close to melee? :P
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Panos_ on June 04, 2014, 09:30:21 pm
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15.3~, am I allowed to use this set?

FUCK, This post was meant for the 1v1 tournamet!
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Renay on June 05, 2014, 12:05:22 am
The thing about throwers in cRPG is that they are used as a ranged class, a shotgun class kind of. Most of the throwers play like Mendro or Godwin. Are you telling that they are even close to melee? :P

No, i mean throwing should be allowed as a hybrid build
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Tydeus on June 05, 2014, 01:17:35 am
It might be better to explain it as "hybrid or dedicated ranged", rather than just "ranged."
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Cicero on June 05, 2014, 08:24:40 am
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15.3~, am I allowed to use this set?

FUCK, This post was meant for the 1v1 tournamet!
How can they understand that u have like 16k or 17k ; i dont really think that they can check everyone's items one by one.

If there is another solution for that i couldnt get it because i just fuckin wake teh fuck up and started workin.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Mendro on June 05, 2014, 10:21:28 am
Are you planning a tournament after this one with main character allowed ?
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: bagge on June 05, 2014, 12:11:27 pm
Thanks for the response, sorry for posting in the wrong thread, not used to having so many different topics like this xD

Point 2 is really good, i like that there will be a human element to look into blatant abuse of the rules. Common sense rulings i guess.

Though i'm not sure allowing loompoints is consistent with the spirit of only allowing STF characters, i know it'd be harder to regulate, but a full set of loomed armour is a significant advantage, and not one i have the luxury of xD

Our/my wish is to be able to create tournament characters in the future it would be possible to play with no heirlooms. As it is now it's pretty much impossible to check.

Are you planning a tournament after this one with main character allowed ?

Yes, a smaller tournament with main characters are being planned.

According to the poll in this thread (http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/official-na-eu-events-tournaments-(this-means-unique-rewards)/) there was more in favor of STF's, that is why we are testing it now.

After both tournaments are done we can gather feedback and find out what we and the Community wants for the next major tournament.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Algarn on June 05, 2014, 11:40:16 pm
Why a smaller one ?? It should be another tournament with the same rewards but different rules regarding the characters used! Still gonna try to find myself a good team to play with !

Also, will future "non official" tournaments (ex : Fallen League )  be rewarded by official rewards, or is it like before if it's not sponsorised by devs or the event team ?
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Tydeus on June 05, 2014, 11:55:33 pm
Also, will future "non official" tournaments (ex : Fallen League )  be rewarded by official rewards, or is it like before if it's not sponsorised by devs or the event team ?
Can't say I have an answer for that, since that question has never come up in our discussions (chadz gives the final 'OK' on all of these things.) Not that I want to keep Fallen or anyone else for that matter, from hosting their own events, but is there anything to be gained by hosting additional tournaments on non wse2 servers? The idea, is that there would be no reason to even think about hosting events elsewhere.

If you have an event prepared or are thinking about preparing an event, let us know. Send Nessaj, Bagge, Molly or Tuetensuppe or myself your ideas and what you've prepared so far, and if it's clear your serious about hosting the event, we'll attempt to figure out a way to get it to work on the official event servers.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Molly on June 06, 2014, 09:31:41 am
[...]
If you have an event prepared or are thinking about preparing an event, let us know. Send Nessaj, Bagge, Molly or Tuetensuppe or myself your ideas and what you've prepared so far, and if it's clear your serious about hosting the event, we'll attempt to figure out a way to get it to work on the official event servers.
That of course means too that we might support you with man power. Meaning helping out as referees, in the organization or - my speciality - making it public with proper advertisement across the EU server. :D
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Panos_ on June 07, 2014, 12:25:31 am
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Matches will be 5-a-side, the team may only use a maximum of three infantry, two ranged, one cavalry and one horse ranged.
  Throwers counts as ranged.
  Horse Ranged counts as both cavalry and ranged.

Can we please remove the maximum cap for infantry? For ranged and cav I can understand the cap, but I fail to see the reasoning behind this.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Admiral Ballsack on June 07, 2014, 04:22:43 am
Once you bring a ranged weapon, you are now a ranged character.
Matches will be 5-a-side, the team may only use a maximum of three infantry, two ranged, one cavalry and one horse ranged.
  Throwers counts as ranged.
  Horse Ranged counts as both cavalry and ranged.
Both teams are granted 15 minutes to gather their

I'm a tad confused, you're saying I can go my normal 18/21 shielder build and bring rocks and be counted as a RANGED class? What is the purpose of limiting infantry.. To what length will you be considered ranged? Also obvious macroing?

A player in the team has to be apart of at least 50% of the matches in order to get a prize.

Also this rule, why would anyone join a team of 5 if they know they won't start?
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Molly on June 07, 2014, 09:43:43 am
Can we please remove the maximum cap for infantry? For ranged and cav I can understand the cap, but I fail to see the reasoning behind this.
The rule is in place to give dedicated archer/xbower a slot in the teams and a chance to participate. Otherwise there might be an exclusion of ranged players. I remember Bagge answering that particular question somewhere in more detail. Please have a look around if my answer is not satisfying as explanation.

I'm a tad confused, you're saying I can go my normal 18/21 shielder build and bring rocks and be counted as a RANGED class? What is the purpose of limiting infantry.. To what length will you be considered ranged? Also obvious macroing?

A player in the team has to be apart of at least 50% of the matches in order to get a prize.

Also this rule, why would anyone join a team of 5 if they know they won't start?
Yep, stones are a throwing weapon and it would be a ranged character. I am unsure about smoke bombs tho :P Everything thrown or shot is classified as "range".
Since there is no real way to detect the use of macros, from my point of view, we will treat them as non-existent.
To avoid that people just idle a team and get a huge prize at the end, they have to actively participate in the tournament to qualify for the prizes. No prize-leeching basically.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: AwesomeHail on June 18, 2014, 04:36:10 pm
I see (and maybe other scrubs) no chance in winning a matchup, since every team is gonna be a sweaty nerds who clear the opposing team within seconds if they're up against people with less than 2 yrs experience in this game :|
You could bring loomed items, right? A team then could go full loomed tincan and not get a scratch from most weps..

People might say; ''Yeah, but you do it for fun!'' no. theres no fun in getting wrecked by shielders like Cyber and HX like Love_More.

And will there be a good spot for people to see the fights? A tribune or somt.

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Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: bagge on June 18, 2014, 07:49:04 pm
I see (and maybe other scrubs) no chance in winning a matchup, since every team is gonna be a sweaty nerds who clear the opposing team within seconds if they're up against people with less than 2 yrs experience in this game :|
You could bring loomed items, right? A team then could go full loomed tincan and not get a scratch from most weps..

People might say; ''Yeah, but you do it for fun!'' no. theres no fun in getting wrecked by shielders like Cyber and HX like Love_More.

And will there be a good spot for people to see the fights? A tribune or somt.

(click to show/hide)

What do you want me to do? Boot people because they are too good? :P

Give it a shot, do it for fun! I assume you've never played any competitive matches in Warband, well this is your oppertunity to try it out and you might be suprised what teamwork can do. Personal solo-hero-skill aren't everything in matches!
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: AwesomeHail on June 18, 2014, 08:50:32 pm
I've been the officer in many NW matches when the commando lost his voice
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The clan was quite small, and we had to fight the really organized ones (dont know them at the top of my head) and they had been training from when the mod came out more or less..

oh well, ill try to get in or substitute someone when they arent all there or somethin
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Renay on June 25, 2014, 08:16:04 pm
Dunno if I'm blind, but I can't find the sign up deadlines for the teams. When are they?

Nevermind, found it. Maybe add it to the tournament rules thread as well.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: tropik33 on June 26, 2014, 12:22:54 am
Any restrictions on equipment or gold, on a STF character?
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: bagge on June 26, 2014, 01:07:16 am
Any restrictions on equipment or gold, on a STF character?

No
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: tropik33 on June 26, 2014, 03:32:17 pm
loool so.. In my opinion, this tournament is pointless. The victory of the tournament not only decides skill but equipment. It's known that the team that wins will have the full plate armor  +3.  This tournament should have  a limit on the money and should be without loompoint.
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Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Jeraz on June 26, 2014, 03:52:10 pm
No

Really? Then what is keeping people from going full loomed tincan? As archer you have almost no chance against that!
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: witchkunold on June 26, 2014, 04:29:51 pm
No

maybe its good idea to add restriction on body armor at least :| whole teams in fullplate will be a horrible thing.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Guray on June 26, 2014, 04:47:57 pm
Guys I have been playing this game for more than 3 years atleast and I have been playing with 0 loomed items..
Which means I have been giving away my loompoints to new commers to my clan.However if someone wants to give me loomed items for free I would gladly accept and use it for example now I have 2 +3 items.Im still better then most of the cRPG players .

What Im trying to say is stop QQ ing this game is about skill if u have better tactic u will win. also try to participate for fun. If u dont like the rules no one is forcing you to participate to the tournament.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: bagge on June 26, 2014, 05:30:27 pm
Since I assume neither of you participated in Tuetens/Gnjus tournament that didn't have any restrictions what-so-ever, I can guarrantee you that the team(s) that went full plate failed miserably against team with lighter equipment.

Why? Because you cannot keep up in group fights. In 1v1 I agree it gives you a significant boost, but not in matches/group fights.

Really? Then what is keeping people from going full loomed tincan? As archer you have almost no chance against that!

Really? I disagree. Easy headshots, friend.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Jeraz on June 26, 2014, 10:53:24 pm
Really? I disagree. Easy headshots, friend.

Not if they have shields  :D
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Kampfkarotte on June 27, 2014, 07:52:45 pm
I have simple question: From when until when is the tournament held?
Didn't find it in the other threads..
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: bagge on June 28, 2014, 12:03:39 am
Approximately a week after the sign up deadline
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Molly on June 28, 2014, 08:45:03 am
Not if they have shields  :D
That`s why maybe one of your teammates could bring an big ass axe instead of a boring greatsword, right? :P
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Gurnisson on June 28, 2014, 02:02:51 pm
Not if they have shields  :D

Tincans with shields should be eaten alive by your friendly infantry anyway
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Guray on June 28, 2014, 04:13:18 pm
Not if they have shields  :D
You clearly dont know this mod.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: bagge on June 29, 2014, 05:43:10 pm
3.1 Deadlines
  • Every round of the tournament will have a deadline. Each team is responsible for their match schedules. Any teams to have not decided on a time or has yet to play their match by that week’s deadline will be risking tournament disqualification. Schedule your match here. (http://forum.melee.org/scheduling/read-before-posting-61153/)

To explain this further:

Each round will have a week's deadline. I will create a new thread for each week and round where you can easily see what map(s) you are going to play and when the deadline date is set.



Make sure you read this and understand it:

1.4. Best-of-three (BO3) Match
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: bagge on June 29, 2014, 06:06:32 pm
Removed:
  • Each team may only consist of maxmimum three players from the same clan. (2014-06-05)
  • Double Elimination group stage (2014-06-30)
Added:
  • Round Robin system for group stage (2014-06-30)
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Guray on July 01, 2014, 03:24:20 am

Are the submittions still open?If yes my clanmates are forcing me to create a team ..
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Renay on July 01, 2014, 04:58:22 pm
Well, one group is missing one team, maybe you can allow one more team, bagge
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: bagge on July 01, 2014, 06:48:22 pm
Yes, one more team will be able to fill up the slot.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Thorondor on July 02, 2014, 10:53:57 am
group matches will be played as best-of-one. then who chooses that one map ?
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: jtobiasm on July 02, 2014, 11:00:57 am
group matches will be played as best-of-one. then who chooses that one map ?

Group matches are bo3 and are chosen by bagge.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Thorondor on July 02, 2014, 11:09:06 am
Group matches are bo3 and are chosen by bagge.
1.1 Group stage
•The group stage will consist of 20 teams and four groups. By placing first or second in the group you advance to the winner bracket of the knockout stage and if you end up third or fourth you will advance to the lower bracket in the knockout stage. Onl the team that finish fifth in the group will be eliminated from the tournament.
The round robin system will be used in the group stage and the games are played best-of-one.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: jtobiasm on July 02, 2014, 01:43:56 pm
Ahh I thought it was bo3,  bo1 for groups is kinda gay.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: bagge on July 02, 2014, 02:13:42 pm
Maps will be randomly generated for each round.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Senni__Ti on July 04, 2014, 12:11:42 am
Ahh I thought it was bo3,  bo1 for groups is kinda gay.

It's best of one match right? (12 rounds, 1 map)
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: jtobiasm on July 04, 2014, 12:59:54 am
It's best of one match right? (12 rounds, 1 map)

yessssss
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: bagge on July 04, 2014, 05:50:46 am
Indeed. Half time (spawn switch) after 6 rounds. First to 7 wins, unless the match ends 6-6, then you will have to play a tiebreaker.

Read 1.4 in the rules for more information!
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Pawiu on July 07, 2014, 12:24:31 am
W-wins
L-loses
RW- rounds won
RL- rounds lost
RD- rounds draw i guess?
P-???
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: bagge on July 07, 2014, 12:35:26 am
Points :-)
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Matze on August 18, 2014, 07:33:35 pm
How it will go with the prices? how you would know how is the 3 ,4, 5 or 6 place?
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: bagge on August 18, 2014, 07:38:03 pm
1
2
3-4
5-8

So everyone in the knockout stage will get a prize
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Matze on August 18, 2014, 08:04:14 pm
so if greys will lose this time we all get 1 lp?
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Doctor_Kolychka on August 27, 2014, 02:39:42 am
may question already asked, but I could not find it. whether stream semifinals and finals?
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: bagge on August 29, 2014, 07:20:25 am
Since my connection is shit I cannot stream myself, it's up to someone else to do it
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Knitler on August 30, 2014, 11:05:52 am
Since my connection is shit I cannot stream myself, it's up to someone else to do it

No you are not. You told me, you are to lazy to record.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Thovex on August 30, 2014, 05:22:40 pm
Why don't you record since you seem to want it Knitler? Or is it too much of a responsibility to bear?
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Knitler on August 31, 2014, 04:43:26 pm
Why don't you record since you seem to want it Knitler? Or is it too much of a responsibility to bear?

Yeh, have fun with 15fps - cause of low uploadspeed.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Thovex on August 31, 2014, 05:40:15 pm
So why does bagge have to do it with 15fps cause of low uploadspeed?
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Knitler on August 31, 2014, 06:06:48 pm
So why does bagge have to do it with 15fps cause of low uploadspeed?

He tried streaming, he had 30fps in the stream. Then gave it up cause its too much work
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Thovex on August 31, 2014, 08:06:58 pm
Yeah I'll believe Bagge if he says he can't stream, even if he doesn't want to and can.
My upload speed is 35 MB/s and download speed 120 MB/s and I still get 15 FPS with crashes when I stream. My rig is fine aswell.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: darmaster on August 31, 2014, 08:13:08 pm
just record it is possible?
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: T_Grellenort on September 01, 2014, 05:30:15 am
So, the tournament ends like this?
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: vipere on September 02, 2014, 12:23:52 am
Nope, we will have to decide who between Byzantiums and Sea raiders gave up.

Or do the fight
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: vipere on September 03, 2014, 07:25:54 pm
Byzantium team won

So now, its red alert vs byzantium
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: T_Grellenort on September 03, 2014, 07:30:58 pm
Byzantium team won

How?  :o
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Thovex on September 03, 2014, 07:50:58 pm
Lunasa stop making up random shit all over the thread.

Bagge was asking if we could play a bit earlier. So looks like some delays in the tournament deadline for the final 2 matches.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: vipere on September 03, 2014, 08:03:22 pm
the match was today : 19h

Im not making up random shit, we were 4 of our team On, and none of you were here.

I will let Bagge and Chase officialize it.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Kalp on September 03, 2014, 08:07:42 pm
You even didn't booked server  :lol: Both teams should be out.
Title: Re: [OCEU 5s] Questions & Answers
Post by: Thovex on September 03, 2014, 08:26:54 pm
Noshit none of our team was on, we've heard absolutely nothing.