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cRPG => Beginner's Help and Guides => Topic started by: Alienfreak on May 28, 2014, 06:36:57 pm

Title: Agicentric 2H (2H/Thrower)
Post by: Alienfreak on May 28, 2014, 06:36:57 pm
I have been thinking about making an Agi Whore this time around. Or a guy giving all those beautiful headthrows of teammates.

Which of the lower builds do you like best or what are your favourite builds for that? Need dem Feedbackz

1) 2H
15/24
2 IF
5 PS
8 Ath
8 WM

184 2H Skill

2) 2H full whore
12/27
1 If
4 PS
9 Ath
9 WM

198 2H Skill

3) 2H/Thrower
12/24
4 IF
4 PS
1 Shield
8 Ath
4 PT
8 WM

150 2H Skill
118 Throwing Skill
Title: Re: Agicentric 2H (2H/Thrower)
Post by: Mr.K. on May 28, 2014, 07:20:51 pm

I have the first one, but I'm not sure where you got those two IF points from. At lvl31 you'll have 0IF and lvl32 will give you three. I have my wpf split the other way though, 150 throwing, 118 2H. Fun build that allows kiting from almost anything. After the recent nerf to throwing speed bonus cavalry is a huge problem though and needs to be avoided as you can't kill them.

With 4PT you'd have worse throwing weapons, so I wouldn't go there. 18/21 could be a good option as well.

Edit: Wait, did you want a 2H hero or a 2H thrower? That 15/24 works fine as a 2H thrower if that's what you want. 5PT, 5PS, 5WM, 8ATH at lvl30 and 8WM at lvl31. 2H agiwhore you could try 12/30 with 10 athletics, 3WM and 4PS.
Title: Re: Agicentric 2H (2H/Thrower)
Post by: Alienfreak on May 28, 2014, 08:02:27 pm
I am undecided whether to make it Hybrid or not...

And are you sure going 12/30 is worth it?
With 12/27 you have 1 Ath less but
1 IF
9 Ath
9 WM

And thus can have either 198 Weapon skill or 180 and 92 in for example crossbows.

Or one could go 15/27 for better weapons and better armor...
Title: Re: Agicentric 2H (2H/Thrower)
Post by: Mr.K. on May 28, 2014, 08:48:27 pm

More ath, more fun. However if you're going to retire at 31 I'd choose 12/27 ofc. If you retire at 32 I'm not sure which is better (6WM gives 166wpf), but if you're not going to retire, then 12/30 is a lot better than 12/27. 12 strength is enough to do well as a 2H. I run in 2kg armor with an awlpike currently with my agiwhore and sometimes I top the score board, sometimes I'm at the bottom. With a Heavy Bastard Sword it was the same thing. Archers are a pain :)

The thrower hybrid is more fun imo though, but that's a lvl31 build as well.
Title: Re: Agicentric 2H (2H/Thrower)
Post by: Macropus on May 28, 2014, 09:16:48 pm
My opinion:

1) Pure agi 2h
Code: (2) [Select]
Level:           30

Strength:        15
Agility:         24

Skill to attr:    8

Ironflash:        2
Power Strike:     5
Athletics:        8
Weapon Master:    8
using cRPG NewGen calc (http://alpha-lider19.ru/MB)

2) Agi 2h + thrower
Code: (1) [Select]
Level:           30

Strength:        15
Agility:         21

Skill to attr:    2

Ironflash:        5
Power Strike:     5
Athletics:        7
Power Throw:      5
Weapon Master:    7

using cRPG NewGen calc (http://alpha-lider19.ru/MB)

As for weapon points split for the second build, I think 133 in 2h and 113 in throwing would work fine.
Title: Re: Agicentric 2H (2H/Thrower)
Post by: Alienfreak on May 29, 2014, 11:01:25 pm
I think I will settle for an Agiwhore without Throwing.

The only real question now is the build...
15 Str Agiwhore. It is questionable whether it is better to have 5PS or 5WM.

Code: [Select]
Strength: 15
Agility: 27
Hit points: 50
Skills to attributes: 14

Power Strike: 5
Athletics: 9
Weapon Master: 3

Two Handed: 128

or

Agiwhore with Crossbow:

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Strength: 12
Agility: 27
Hit points: 49
Skills to attributes: 8

Ironflesh: 1
Power Strike: 4
Athletics: 9
Weapon Master: 9

Two Handed: 152
Crossbow: 140

The upper packs a better punch.
The lower uses inferior weapons and armour but has a xbow and has more weapon skill. Xbow looks like a better compromise than throwing to me because it takes no additional skillpoints. Throwing is of course more situational because you can just draw the weapon and throw it. The xbow needs long reloading times.
Title: Re: Agicentric 2H (2H/Thrower)
Post by: Alienfreak on May 30, 2014, 12:21:48 pm
Or one could go 14-27 freeing up a lot for WM. The damage is about equal to 15-27 but with faster swings and less upkeep.

Code: [Select]
Strength: 14
Agility: 27
Skills to attributes: 12
Power Strike: 4
Athletics: 9
Weapon Master: 6
One Handed: 26
Two Handed: 163
Polearm: 26
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

The only weapons you can't use are the heavy mauls, the persian war axe and the biggest swords. Worth a thought at least.
Title: Re: Agicentric 2H (2H/Thrower)
Post by: Flurry on May 30, 2014, 08:38:29 pm
Dis i utilized at lvl 30
Strength: 12
Agility: 27


Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 4
Shield: 0
Athletics: 9
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 9

Two Handed: 184
Polearm: 80

At 32

Strength: 15
Agility: 27


Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 0
Athletics: 9
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 9

Two Handed: 184
Polearm: 80

Both at 32 and 30 i had a lot of fun playing both 2h and pole, since i use ninja/samurai themed armors/weapons i had no str req issues.

Here is my idea for my next gen 30 lvl build(2h/pole/throwing):

Strength: 15
Agility: 24

Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 0
Athletics: 6
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 4
Weapon Master: 8

Two Handed: 136
Polearm: 100
Throwing: 86
*wpf displayed is not effective wpf