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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: cxalc on May 28, 2014, 04:03:47 pm

Title: new patch
Post by: cxalc on May 28, 2014, 04:03:47 pm
is throwing lance 60pierce before?

where's the new Crowned Helm?! wanna cos a king!!!
Title: Re: new patch
Post by: Algarn on May 28, 2014, 04:06:46 pm
Yes, lost 10 pierce, 7 accuracy, but got 2 more ammo (3 lances per stack now, which makes it much less expensive -> less chances to break), and 1 less requirement, which is priceless for hybrids.
Title: Re: new patch
Post by: Gravoth_iii on May 28, 2014, 04:26:10 pm
2 stacks of throwing lances, 2 stack of throwin daggers, 18/21 or 24 if higher level...

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Title: Re: new patch
Post by: Molly on May 28, 2014, 04:34:23 pm
Katana stab buffed, longsword/bastard speed nerfed...

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Title: Re: new patch
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on May 28, 2014, 04:46:08 pm
Crowned helm?

Goodbye to Welsh Rebel and hello to Welsh King  :lol:
Title: Re: new patch
Post by: the real god emperor on May 28, 2014, 04:48:03 pm
Brace yourselves.

Throwers are coming.
Title: Re: new patch
Post by: Algarn on May 28, 2014, 04:49:21 pm
Imba sargon, grellenort and every 1h cav are gonna leave the mod.
Title: Re: new patch
Post by: Mr.K. on May 28, 2014, 04:50:38 pm
Imba sargon, grellenort and every 1h cav are gonna leave the mod.

Nah, just respec to high level horse archers :twisted:

Of the 8 characters I have, three were broken and two slightly nerfed. Feels personal! :lol:
Title: Re: new patch
Post by: Algarn on May 28, 2014, 04:51:13 pm
horse archers are fine.
Title: Re: new patch
Post by: Strudog on May 28, 2014, 04:55:23 pm
is throwing lance 60pierce before?

where's the new Crowned Helm?! wanna cos a king!!!
Crowned helm?

Goodbye to Welsh Rebel and hello to Welsh King  :lol:

Crowned Helm is a tournament prize, you cannot buy it
Title: Re: new patch
Post by: bavvoz on May 28, 2014, 04:59:27 pm
Wow next up i really hope will be some real str reqs for heavy armor/weapons to balance out this agi favouring.
Title: Re: new patch
Post by: Nightmare798 on May 28, 2014, 04:59:39 pm
Katana stab buffed, longsword/bastard speed nerfed...

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Fuckin katana fgts. I hate that ugly ass sword..
Title: Re: new patch
Post by: Penitent on May 28, 2014, 05:45:10 pm
Fuckin katana fgts. I hate that ugly ass sword..

Thought you were dread for a sec haha.
Title: Re: new patch
Post by: Nightmare798 on May 28, 2014, 06:01:22 pm
Thought you were dread for a sec haha.

It is possible we share similar opinions on some...aspects of this game.

Besides, I dont really get the buff. I made 9/30 ninja katana build for shits and giggles, and it is actually overpowered as hell. Like, I 2 shot people with 3ps for christ sake.
Title: Re: new patch
Post by: Tiger on May 28, 2014, 06:26:14 pm
The new patch increased Riding skill needed, so it will force me to do a hybrid build of some other sort  :(
Title: Re: new patch
Post by: Mr.K. on May 28, 2014, 06:31:18 pm
Lots of QQ inc.

The internal balance of 2H and Cavalry is really broken now. Longsword and HBS were never used very much on EU1, and now the Two Handed Sword has superior stats due to recent buffs.

All heavy horses from War Horse to Eastern Warhorse have higher requirements and less speed/maneuver than Barded and Padded without giving much more survivability. Even between those there are huge problems like War Horse being far superior to the bigger archer target of a Large Warhorse. Rouncey is now almost as good as a Destrier, with 2 points lower requirement and one third of the price. Sumpter is still useless and 1-3 riding skill doesn't allow to ride any decent horses. I guess the idea here was to nerf cav damage, but a 21/21 build won't be much less effective than 24/15 was, so it fails to address the issue which would be easily fixed by just nerfing the cavalry speed bonus.

EU1 filled with archers and xbows - buff archers, keep xbows the same and nerf their biggest enemies.

Awlpike and other 2D poles still op.

With 12 str I can still wear heavy armor (64 body armor) and use a long spear but can't carry a long 1H sword.
Title: Re: new patch
Post by: Austrian on May 28, 2014, 06:35:53 pm
Lots of QQ inc.

The internal balance of 2H and Cavalry is really broken now. Longsword and HBS were never used very much on EU1, and now the Two Handed Sword has superior stats due to recent buffs.

All heavy horses from War Horse to Eastern Warhorse have higher requirements and less speed/maneuver than Barded and Padded without giving much more survivability. Even between those there are huge problems like War Horse being far superior to the bigger archer target of a Large Warhorse. Rouncey is now almost as good as a Destrier, with 2 points lower requirement and one third of the price. Sumpter is still useless and 1-3 riding skill doesn't allow to ride any decent horses. I guess the idea here was to nerf cav damage, but a 21/21 build won't be much less effective than 24/15 was, so it fails to address the issue which would be easily fixed by just nerfing the cavalry speed bonus.

EU1 filled with archers and xbows - buff archers, keep xbows the same and nerf their biggest enemies.

Awlpike and other 2D poles still op.

With 12 str I can still wear heavy armor (64 body armor) and use a long spear but can't carry a long 1H sword.
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I like the changes, 1H cav got the nerf they needed and archers are even more able to kite. All in all a glorious day for me.
Title: Re: new patch
Post by: Mr.K. on May 28, 2014, 06:42:59 pm

Serious. Greatswords are far more popular than the shorter bastard swords. Unless on horseback. On NA it's the other way around. The devs could give updated numbers, but these are the ones from a few months ago, before the nerfs to bastards and buffs to greatswords: http://forum.melee.org/suggestions-corner/can-we-get-stats-of-servers/msg940271/#msg940271
Title: Re: new patch
Post by: Tydeus on May 28, 2014, 06:45:56 pm
Serious. Greatswords are far more popular than the shorter bastard swords. Unless on horseback. On NA it's the other way around. The devs could give updated numbers, but these are the ones from a few months ago, before the nerfs to bastards and buffs to greatswords: http://forum.melee.org/suggestions-corner/can-we-get-stats-of-servers/msg940271/#msg940271 (http://forum.melee.org/suggestions-corner/can-we-get-stats-of-servers/msg940271/#msg940271)
Those stats spanned more than an entire year, most of which was before the WPF rework, which is the main reason why the bastard swords had to be dealt with in the first place.
Title: Re: new patch
Post by: Mr.K. on May 28, 2014, 06:49:49 pm
Those stats spanned more than an entire year, most of which was before the WPF rework, which is the main reason why the bastard swords had to be dealt with in the first place.

Give us up to date stats then please. I still see a lot more greatswords on EU1 than I see bastard swords.

At one point bastard swords were OP as hell, but they didn't need this latest nerf. Just look at the balance between THS and LS and tell me why anyone would choose the LS...
Title: Re: new patch
Post by: Lactating Vegetables on May 28, 2014, 06:52:22 pm
The pelt hood looks amazing with the donkey head  :lol:
Title: Re: new patch
Post by: Johammeth on May 28, 2014, 06:57:35 pm
You forgot to make rangedcav have to fill out a captcha in order to reload.
Title: Re: new patch
Post by: Leshma on May 28, 2014, 07:08:30 pm
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Title: Re: new patch
Post by: Crob28 on May 28, 2014, 08:38:19 pm
Pff, I'll be in the Fapocalypse thread until this all blows over....  :rolleyes: