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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Eugene on May 03, 2014, 02:31:58 pm

Title: XP Transfer Between Characters
Post by: Eugene on May 03, 2014, 02:31:58 pm
Hello Community,

I believe this has been discussed before, but not implemented.

I think it would be beneficial for the game if players had the option of "sacrificing" alternative characters to get say, 75% of the experience on a character of their choice. This would promote "alt-itis" too and as a result, would generate the feeling of satisfaction upon playing on an alternative character.

We can transfer gold, so why not EXP? We earn them both after-all! The 75% would mean that playing on an alt isn't as time-effective as playing on that dedicated character, but it means that alts are not a complete waste of time.

What is your take on the issue?

Thanks
Title: Re: XP Transfer Between Characters
Post by: no_rules_just_play on May 03, 2014, 02:59:35 pm
We can transfer gold, so why not EXP?

Because in medieval europe, people didn't get older by sucking life out of other people. Giving gold to friends or family was a pretty common way to transfer money though.
Title: Re: XP Transfer Between Characters
Post by: Eugene on May 03, 2014, 03:23:06 pm
Because in medieval europe, people didn't get older by sucking life out of other people. Giving gold to friends or family was a pretty common way to transfer money though.

But in Transylvania...

But seriously, people do get older while sucking out potential life, just look at the ghetto parts of LA (hohoho)

If you want realism, people don't "level-up", and if your argument is about a correlation between age:level, I'll be the first to admit that I haven't seen any athletic retirees running around swinging greatswords.
Title: Re: XP Transfer Between Characters
Post by: Alec on May 03, 2014, 03:25:41 pm
Hello Community,

I believe this has been discussed before, but not implemented.

I think it would be beneficial for the game if players had the option of "sacrificing" alternative characters to get say, 75% of the experience on a character of their choice. This would promote "alt-itis" too and as a result, would generate the feeling of satisfaction upon playing on an alternative character.

We can transfer gold, so why not EXP? We earn them both after-all! The 75% would mean that playing on an alt isn't as time-effective as playing on that dedicated character, but it means that alts are not a complete waste of time.

What is your take on the issue?

Thanks

It'll be abused straightaway
Title: Re: XP Transfer Between Characters
Post by: Eugene on May 03, 2014, 03:27:12 pm
It'll be abused straightaway

Yeah? Is that so?

Well you have the same picture as NormanGuy. Might wanna do something about it.

Is it abuse if everyone and anyone can do it?

Given the level-up system, the hyperthetically transfering 75% of the exp from a level 31 to a level 35 or so (I assume that's what you're considering 'abuse'), won't make much of a difference what-so-ever.
Title: Re: XP Transfer Between Characters
Post by: Alec on May 03, 2014, 03:34:27 pm
Yeah? Is that so?

Well you have the same picture as NormanGuy. Might wanna do something about it.

Might ask yourself how it comes people get "that picture". This idea will mess up STF, respecs,... It doesn't fit in this mod quite well.
Title: Re: XP Transfer Between Characters
Post by: Eugene on May 03, 2014, 03:38:13 pm
Might ask yourself how it comes people get "that picture". This idea will mess up STF, respecs,... It doesn't fit in this mod quite well.

How-so? STF's can't level up and would obviously also be devoid from this concept.

I don't see how the idea of combining a greater portion of one characters experience, and adding it to another character would ruin the concept of "respecs"? The idea stems from the fact that a lot of players avoid spending time on alternative characters, as it feels like they are wasting time, as it is not furthering their main (which usually will get experience faster anyway given most mains are >gen 1).

It's been talked about before, and I think that it is a good method to promote alt use, as the experience can be moved between characters (albeit with some form of sacrifice). The obvious deterrent is that some goes to waste - the same reason people don't respec all the time.
Title: Re: XP Transfer Between Characters
Post by: Dark_Blade on May 03, 2014, 05:15:25 pm
looks like getting lps without retirement on high lvl.
no
Title: Re: XP Transfer Between Characters
Post by: Joseph Porta on May 03, 2014, 05:39:50 pm
IMagine a lv 35 siphonin all his xp to dozens of alts

POOF ECONOMY not that its any great atm
Title: Re: XP Transfer Between Characters
Post by: Eugene on May 03, 2014, 06:42:55 pm
looks like getting lps without retirement on high lvl.
no

However, divided experience will sort-of act as a retirement for a high level, as a EXP sacrifice will potentially reduce level, and always hinder progress on that character. Using alts to retire is a lot more accurate to "getting lps without retirement on high lvl", which is what happens today.

IMagine a lv 35 siphonin all his xp to dozens of alts

POOF ECONOMY not that its any great atm

I'm just going to say what we're all thinking. The cRPG economy is a joke. The system was essentially bound to fail as players start cRPG, play cRPG, retire, loom shit, quit, pass looms onto other players, who play with loomed gear, retire, quit. rinse repeat. Of course this would lead to an influx of heirlooms/LP in the future, as there is a lot coming into the game, and none leaving. Basic economical principle of supply/demand.
Title: Re: XP Transfer Between Characters
Post by: Rico on May 03, 2014, 08:17:58 pm
Of course this would lead to an influx of heirlooms/LP in the future, as there is a lot coming into the game, and none leaving. Basic economical principle of supply/demand.

The demand is infinite since all people want all items on +3 and some people are actually trying to get all items on +3.
Title: Re: XP Transfer Between Characters
Post by: Eugene on May 03, 2014, 09:00:37 pm
The demand is infinite since all people want all items on +3 and some people are actually trying to get all items on +3.

Yes, but think of the concept of inflation. I believe Zimbabwe is a classic example.

They printed out a massive amount of money, under the impression it'd add wealth to their nation, when it actually resulted in the value of the note decreasing significantly. Sure, people still wanted the notes, but there was too much supply to meet the demand.

That is what was meant about the economy being stuffed.

Anyway, this is getting a little off-topic ;)

Title: Re: XP Transfer Between Characters
Post by: Switchtense on May 03, 2014, 09:30:37 pm
So you go on lvl20 server, get more exp than usual, transfer that exp to your main and you got the perfect exploit.
Title: Re: XP Transfer Between Characters
Post by: Baskakov_Dima on May 03, 2014, 09:45:46 pm
Well...

1) Buy a laptop that can handle cRPG on at least like 15 FPS.
2) Make a shielder alt, probably dedicated shielder, but better balanced agi-noble.
3) Go DTV and wait till the first shieldwall map goes.
4) Get some shitty armour, shitty weapon and good shield.
5) Stand in a shieldwall with chat button pressed. Your char will hold his shield.
6) Do what you want, look at the screen sometimes, go back to the wall each round, probably go fight sometimes when it is needed.
7) Reach 31 lvl
8) Goto 1 untill you are gen 16

When gen 16 is reached, grin tones of XP and transfer it to any char you want. You will have 45% bonus and will only lose 25% - 8% bonus totally.

Not so bad.

By the way, my voice is for that idea, will bring much more fun to this game.
Title: Re: XP Transfer Between Characters
Post by: Eugene on May 04, 2014, 03:39:46 am
Well...

1) Buy a laptop that can handle cRPG on at least like 15 FPS.
2) Make a shielder alt, probably dedicated shielder, but better balanced agi-noble.
3) Go DTV and wait till the first shieldwall map goes.
4) Get some shitty armour, shitty weapon and good shield.
5) Stand in a shieldwall with chat button pressed. Your char will hold his shield.
6) Do what you want, look at the screen sometimes, go back to the wall each round, probably go fight sometimes when it is needed.
7) Reach 31 lvl
8) Goto 1 untill you are gen 16

When gen 16 is reached, grin tones of XP and transfer it to any char you want. You will have 45% bonus and will only lose 25% - 8% bonus totally.

Not so bad.

By the way, my voice is for that idea, will bring much more fun to this game.

You must play cRPG like you're on a mission. I personally would never buy another laptop for a shieldwall character haha!

#toocasual
Title: Re: XP Transfer Between Characters
Post by: Grumbs on May 04, 2014, 12:40:30 pm
About high level guys sending xp to alts to make looms..so what? High level characters are far more harmful to the game than there being more looms. Actually the more looms there are the less of gap between the powerful and the weak. People that played a lot have looms anyway, especially with clan armouries. Better to have high level guys reduce their level imo, better for everyone except some hoarding looms now

The main worry would be guys using their alts to send XP to their main and getting to 35 or 36 but I think it would be offset by people playing alts because they would get some perceived progression while using a different build

Kind of off topic, but they should just cap level at 31 and give everyone respecs + looms equivalent to how much xp they had. Then the retiring + respec system would work and there would be a more level playing field and probably people would feel more comfortable with retiring and trying new builds so they don't get bored and quit the game
Title: Re: XP Transfer Between Characters
Post by: Baskakov_Dima on May 04, 2014, 01:44:29 pm
You must play cRPG like you're on a mission. I personally would never buy another laptop for a shieldwall character haha!

#toocasual

The point is, I already have a laptop that can handle M&B on like 30 FPS before the wave starts. :D
But I mainly use it vice versa - my main PC runs M&B, my laptop runs Open Office with my essay.