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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => The Chamber of Tears => Topic started by: spiritus on April 04, 2014, 10:53:39 am

Title: 2h hbs etc
Post by: spiritus on April 04, 2014, 10:53:39 am
2h is the easiest class in the game besides range and cav yet for melee which is supposed to take skill, it is so ez im useing non loomed armour non loomed hbs yet i get 2-3 plus kd every game just screwing around 15/24 less then 30 armour. They animations are for the most part flawless i wish admins would fucking fixate on the balancing aspect a little bit more. If 80 percent of the community thinks 2h is ez why do admins refuse to change their perspective....... well i guess i know why this mod is dying... shitty admins
Title: Re: 2h hbs etc
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 04, 2014, 11:04:36 am
why this wasn't on bbc yet?
Title: Re: 2h hbs etc
Post by: BlueKnight on April 04, 2014, 11:11:02 am
give them hbs
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Post by: korppis on April 04, 2014, 11:20:36 am
Depends on playstyle. Every class is easy if you avoid fair fight, just stab people in the back and use friends as a meatshield.
Title: Re: 2h hbs etc
Post by: spiritus on April 04, 2014, 11:22:04 am
Depends on playstyle. Every class is easy if you avoid fair fight, just stab people in the back and use friends as a meatshield.
I was dueling people...... its just so fucking easy great sword also just so ez
Title: Re: 2h hbs etc
Post by: Latvian on April 04, 2014, 11:27:54 am
2h is well known for being hardest class
Title: Re: 2h hbs etc
Post by: Switchtense on April 04, 2014, 11:42:13 am
why does everybody say 2h is ez mode D: i honestly think its difficult :oops:

pokey-polearms are way easier than 2h
Title: Re: 2h hbs etc
Post by: spiritus on April 04, 2014, 12:08:33 pm
why does everybody say 2h is ez mode D: i honestly think its difficult :oops:

pokey-polearms are way easier than 2h
u must be new or cray cray 2h animations are flawless
Title: Re: 2h hbs etc
Post by: spiritus on April 04, 2014, 12:12:33 pm
2h is the easiest class in the game besides range and cav yet for melee which is supposed to take skill, it is so ez im useing non loomed armour non loomed hbs yet i get 2-3 plus kd every game just screwing around 15/24 less then 30 armour. They animations are for the most part flawless i wish admins would fucking fixate on the balancing aspect a little bit more. If 80 percent of the community thinks 2h is ez why do admins refuse to change their perspective....... well i guess i know why this mod is dying... shitty admins
Title: Re: 2h hbs etc
Post by: spiritus on April 04, 2014, 12:13:10 pm
2h is the easiest class in the game besides range and cav yet for melee which is supposed to take skill, it is so ez im useing non loomed armour non loomed hbs yet i get 2-3 plus kd every game just screwing around 15/24 less then 30 armour. They animations are for the most part flawless i wish admins would fucking fixate on the balancing aspect a little bit more. If 80 percent of the community thinks 2h is ez why do admins refuse to change their perspective....... well i guess i know why this mod is dying... shitty admins etc...
Title: Re: 2h hbs etc
Post by: dreadnok on April 04, 2014, 12:41:03 pm
Ya pole arms are harder for sure. Instance sides wings, no weapon stun instance blocks. Just keep backing up and swinging. Fuckoff
Title: Re: 2h hbs etc
Post by: Kalp on April 04, 2014, 12:43:58 pm
why does everybody say 2h is ez mode D: i honestly think its difficult :oops:

pokey-polearms are way easier than 2h
but to be honest

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Title: Re: 2h hbs etc
Post by: dreadnok on April 04, 2014, 01:15:56 pm
but to be honest

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Without a shield its nifty
Title: Re: 2h hbs etc
Post by: IR_Kuoin on April 04, 2014, 01:46:26 pm
Still stuck in the 2012 - 2013 whine?
Title: Re: 2h hbs etc
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on April 04, 2014, 05:27:54 pm
i wish admins would fucking fixate on the balancing aspect a little bit more. If 80 percent of the community thinks 2h is ez why do admins refuse to change their perspective....... well i guess i know why this mod is dying... shitty admins

Are you... asking admins to kick/ban people who use 2H? Deliver a diatribe in pink text to convince other players of the superiority of 2H? I'm lost.  :?:
Title: Re: 2h hbs etc
Post by: Penitent on April 04, 2014, 07:43:51 pm
I don't know why ppl say cav and ranged as so easy.  They are the most annoying, for sure...but to actually play as one and do well is the most challenging in my experience.
Title: Re: 2h hbs etc
Post by: spiritus on April 04, 2014, 07:51:39 pm
Are you... asking admins to kick/ban people who use 2H? Deliver a diatribe in pink text to convince other players of the superiority of 2H? I'm lost.  :?:
nooooooo
Title: Re: 2h hbs etc
Post by: spiritus on April 04, 2014, 07:52:06 pm
I don't know why ppl say cav and ranged as so easy.  They are the most annoying, for sure...but to actually play as one and do well is the most challenging in my experience.
i played crossbow it was a breazze
Title: Re: 2h hbs etc
Post by: spiritus on April 04, 2014, 07:53:03 pm
Still stuck in the 2012 - 2013 whine?
just because i am a whiner doesnt make what i say not true
Title: Re: 2h hbs etc
Post by: SP1N on April 04, 2014, 07:53:58 pm
2h is the easiest class in the game besides range and cav
pokey-polearms are way easier than 2h
1h is the easiest

...and the circle is complete.
Title: Re: 2h hbs etc
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on April 04, 2014, 08:28:59 pm
2h is typically the most balanced class when it comes to a 1v1 or duel situation.  The game is not balanced in a vacuum of how good something is in a 1v1 situation vs another weapon 

Why am I even trying to use logic and talking to spiritus like he can comprehend simple ideas...silly me.

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Title: Re: 2h hbs etc
Post by: Swaggart on April 04, 2014, 09:22:38 pm
just because i am a whiner doesnt make what i say true

Couldn't have said it better myself.
Title: Re: 2h hbs etc
Post by: spiritus on April 05, 2014, 05:14:36 pm
2h is typically the most balanced class when it comes to a 1v1 or duel situation.  The game is not balanced in a vacuum of how good something is in a 1v1 situation vs another weapon 

Why am I even trying to use logic and talking to spiritus like he can comprehend simple ideas...silly me.

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battle scenario is alot of dueling 1v1 i fail to see how 2h stab fails in a utility role as with the very powerful insta left swing.
Title: Re: 2h hbs etc
Post by: spiritus on April 05, 2014, 05:40:11 pm
2h is typically the most balanced class when it comes to a 1v1 or duel situation.  The game is not balanced in a vacuum of how good something is in a 1v1 situation vs another weapon 

Why am I even trying to use logic and talking to spiritus like he can comprehend simple ideas...silly me.

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battle is a ton of little 1v1 clashes if you can get the upper hand you can win those little clashes odds are put against your enemies diminishing its like in dota stacking evasion the more that is stacked aka the more players on your team that die the less of an outcome you stand to receive positively btw dont stack evasion in dota Pa has 40 percent stack with b-fly is 35 percent tho it turns out to be 61 percent 1-(1-.4)*(1-.35) this is what happens in battle in a way if u dont understand lets say u have 2 quarters and there is a 50 percent chance for heads well u cant stack that it isnt a 100 percent heads every time because it diminishes 50 percent of the time there will be an outcome of one heads one tail and 25 percent of the time 2 headas 25 percent 2 tails so 75 percent chance of heads.... its just like in battle if you can get the upperhand like you can with a 2h the more you will beat your foe and the more the odds are in your favor
Title: Re: 2h hbs etc
Post by: IR_Kuoin on April 08, 2014, 10:20:09 pm
battle is a ton of little 1v1 clashes if you can get the upper hand you can win those little clashes odds are put against your enemies diminishing its like in dota stacking evasion the more that is stacked aka the more players on your team that die the less of an outcome you stand to receive positively btw dont stack evasion in dota Pa has 40 percent stack with b-fly is 35 percent tho it turns out to be 61 percent 1-(1-.4)*(1-.35) this is what happens in battle in a way if u dont understand lets say u have 2 quarters and there is a 50 percent chance for heads well u cant stack that it isnt a 100 percent heads every time because it diminishes 50 percent of the time there will be an outcome of one heads one tail and 25 percent of the time 2 headas 25 percent 2 tails so 75 percent chance of heads.... its just like in battle if you can get the upperhand like you can with a 2h the more you will beat your foe and the more the odds are in your favor

That made almost no sense at all ... in fact I don't think it did.
Title: Re: 2h hbs etc
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on April 08, 2014, 11:38:02 pm
battle scenario is alot of dueling 1v1 i fail to see how 2h stab fails in a utility role as with the very powerful insta left swing.

If you can get into a 1v1 situation in the battle server and you're a 2h with a longsword (or similar bastard sword weapon that is great for dueling), then you have just done what you are supposed to do.  You're supposed to try and put your strengths on the table and try not to have your weaknesses exposed.  A 2h is strong in a 1v1, but it's not the most ideal weapon set to have in a 1v5 or 1v10 when you're surrounded (I'd say a 1h/shield would be, but everyone's play style is different).  It's the same reason why the game isn't balanced around pikes or long mauls.  In a 1v1 on open ground with similarly agile opponents with equal skill, a pike or long maul is going to be at a huge disadvantage to a fast 1h, or even a fast 2h weapon.  You're not suggesting we make the pike able to duel as well as a HBS are you?  Because if the game were balanced in a vacuum of "this compared to this", that would mean the pike would be able to duel as well as a heavy bastard sword, and that makes no sense at all.  Everything in the game has it's strengths and weaknesses, nothing is immune to everything.