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Strategus => Strategus Issues => Topic started by: BaleOhay on April 03, 2014, 02:18:04 am
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I signed up for
http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=843
at least 45 minutes before the fight for the ai defense. Was not hired even with the ai not having a full roster
what gives?
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Doesn't the AI only put people on once every hour after the battle starts?
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i logged into the server but could not pick equipment. stupid ai
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It will only hire you an hour and change before the battle. So if a battle is at 8:30, the last chance to get hired is 7:00.
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that is rather poor programming if true
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I think it is to prevent people ghost stacking a roster at the last minute, we all know how "effective" that tactic is at throttling the opposing teams merc count.
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this is NOT poor coding. Just think you would run the script that looks for applicants every 10 min. Would make the whole server lag. hour based cronjob is more than enough
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was not asking for 10 mins.. But if someone signs up in the last hour before a fight to a roster that needs help the ai should hire maybe 5-10 mins before the fight starts. I signed up 45 mins before should have been hired.
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Bale, you're an adult, learn to plan in advance.
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Auto sign entire roster last minute before battle, problem fixed. To hard to know if you got time until last minute
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I think it is to prevent people ghost stacking a roster at the last minute, we all know how "effective" that tactic is at throttling the opposing teams merc count.
If I remember correctly, AI roster applied people at the last minute in previous rounds, but it picked them badly.
Now, AI roster "updates" and doesnt kick out, but the time to react (one hour) is way too long. Most of the time there is last minute mercenaries in strat battles so we miss out on them.
I think we should keep the actual system (auto update, doesnt kick out) but add a "last minute check" (if its not already there) so we replace the last cancels with the last minute new mercenaries.
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I think it's fine the way it is. Ghost rosters are pretty lame.
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If ai check ends 1hour before that should be deadline for players to make changes in roster also. Would be only fair in fights against ai villages/castles/towns. Also "ghost rosters are pretty lame" - yes they are, but i've seen some of the clans in EU do that. Doubt anyone has hard time guessing what colors those might be. :)
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If I remember correctly, AI roster applied people at the last minute in previous rounds, but it picked them badly.
Now, AI roster "updates" and doesnt kick out, but the time to react (one hour) is way too long. Most of the time there is last minute mercenaries in strat battles so we miss out on them.
I think we should keep the actual system (auto update, doesnt kick out) but add a "last minute check" (if its not already there) so we replace the last cancels with the last minute new mercenaries.
It does.
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Never been kicked despite bad reliability/performance, so I thought.
Also "ghost rosters are pretty lame" - yes they are, but i've seen some of the clans in EU do that. Doubt anyone has hard time guessing what colors those might be. :)
I dont understand what exactly you mean by "ghost roster", you mean guys not showing up with their name still in the roster? Yeah, its pretty hard to miss them. The bigger problem is somewhere else, let me detail....
If ai check ends 1hour before that should be deadline for players to make changes in roster also.
Like you imply here, in the current system there is a pretty easy exploit:
- apply to a strategus battle
- get accepted
- wait for the last AI roster update
- cancel your application before the battle begins
- ???
- profit
So basically, we should add either:
- last minute roster check,
OR
- impossible to cancel applications after the last AI roster check,
Because atm there is a pretty large gap where you can ghost roster without showing on the roster list.
Add to that that people like Bale want to play but cant join the AI side if they dont apply in advance, and you have a recipe for excruciatingly weak AI defense over time.
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I think it's fine the way it is. Ghost rosters are pretty lame.
I would think people who have recently signed up means they know they can play. Someone signing up a day in advance might have shit come up in their life and they might not be able to make it to the battle. I would think the current system would promote ghost rosters much more than an updated algorithm.
I typically don't know more than 30 minutes in advance if I have a chance to play crpg (or possibly get into a strat battle). It should have some other check besides at the hour mark, and has to be more than an hour before the battle is set to start. It is terrible programming logic and/or human logic.
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I would think people who have recently signed up means they know they can play. Someone signing up a day in advance might have shit come up in their life and they might not be able to make it to the battle. I would think the current system would promote ghost rosters much more than an updated algorithm.
I typically don't know more than 30 minutes in advance if I have a chance to play crpg (or possibly get into a strat battle). It should have some other check besides at the hour mark, and has to be more than an hour before the battle is set to start. It is terrible programming logic and/or human logic.
You can always apply in advance and then unsign yourself if you find out you can't make it, or just ignore you're terrible reliability rating that no one cares about.
Basically I'm a fan if anything that improves the chances for attackers, because they are the ones who get the short end of the stick. Night time settings are awful. The battle essentially ending when the timer runs out in attackers is terrible too. Why would you want to give defenders another advantage that they don't deserve? Remember, battles should be encouraged I Strat, and AI ghost rosters are going to make people think twice about attacking.
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I do not sign up a day before to potentially waste a roster spot. generally know if I can do a battle hour or less before. Family, life, etc get in the way from long term sign up. Sure I can just sign in the hippie I can do it. 30 minutes prior I can not go or retract. All I did was take a spot away from someone else. It is not asking much to get one final update 10 mins before a fight from the ai
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I do not sign up a day before to potentially waste a roster spot. generally know if I can do a battle hour or less before. Family, life, etc get in the way from long term sign up. Sure I can just sign in the hippie I can do it. 30 minutes prior I can not go or retract. All I did was take a spot away from someone else. It is not asking much to get one final update 10 mins before a fight from the ai
There is no wasting roster spots, at least it has never been an issue yet. The AI, which is what we are talking about here, gets 100 roster spots to compensate for the number of no-shows. You are making up an imaginary problem because you can't plan your life an hour and change in advance. In any case, good luck getting it changed, chadz hates things that can be abused, and that would be one of them.
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get married and have some kids and a real job murder.. then let me know how signing up for fights a day in advance factors in
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get married and have some kids and a real job murder.. then let me know how signing up for fights a day in advance factors in
Why are you spending so much time arguing over a video game on the internet when you should be taking care of your wife and kids? I do most of my posting while shitting at work.
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was not asking for 10 mins.. But if someone signs up in the last hour before a fight to a roster that needs help the ai should hire maybe 5-10 mins before the fight starts. I signed up 45 mins before should have been hired.
just hire yourself rigth after the battle pup on the list then if you cant make it remove yourself or stay in it since ai dont have number restriction anymore :)
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Kesh, your minus votes are like candy to me.
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just hire yourself rigth after the battle pup on the list then if you cant make it remove yourself or stay in it since ai dont have number restriction anymore :)
i understand the concept it still should not be a big deal for the AI to hire one last time before a fight. To collect up the people that are online at the time of the fight to be able to be hired... In a few weeks no more ai should remain and this becomes a non issue till next strat
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In a few weeks no more ai should remain and this becomes a non issue till next strat
Yep, and until then undeserved AI fiefs gain will be partially supported by roster mechanics.