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Title: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: NejStark on March 25, 2014, 11:53:55 pm
https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10101319050523971
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Leshma on March 26, 2014, 12:04:34 am
bad. news.
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: NejStark on March 26, 2014, 12:26:13 am
Did you back it?

Also - don't go getting any ideas for M:BG chadz!
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Tiger on March 26, 2014, 12:37:14 am
That's a weird way to connect with people....
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Tore on March 26, 2014, 12:52:09 am
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Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Christo on March 26, 2014, 01:23:35 am
No.
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Clockworkkiller on March 26, 2014, 02:16:31 am
well, fuck.....

Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Emotion on March 26, 2014, 02:59:40 am
I would so jerk someone off with this, its not gay then, cuz virtual.
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Molly on March 26, 2014, 07:49:28 am
Some of the comments :lol:

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Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Son Of Odin on March 26, 2014, 08:15:07 am
Thanks facebook for spoiling everything for everyone...

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Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Nehvar on March 26, 2014, 08:22:56 am
Fucking Zuckerberg, you fun-vampire.
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Kafein on March 26, 2014, 08:41:43 am
ugh
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: chadz on March 26, 2014, 09:00:00 am
When I read that yesterday, I was pretty shocked at first. No matter how you tun it, the OR guys sold out, plain and simple. They didn't do it because it gives them more freedom, they didn't do it because of the things they can do together with facebook, they did it because someone was waving 2 fucking billion dollars in front of their eyes and they couldn't resist. However, "they" is not only the founders, the guys that were running the kickstarter, but they is also, and in this decision probably mostly, the venture capital company that gave them 75 million bucks for a share of the company which is not revealed to my understanding.

You can imagine that the VC company has been pushing very hard for this transaction to work out - and they are the ones bringing out the champagne right now. They raised their investment of 75M$ to probably 500M$ in 4 months. That's quite an ROI.

So, let's try and see the positive things:
- Like Zuckerberg or not, but so far the big acquisitions of him in the past were not fucked up right away. I mean I don't use it, but apparently instagram still works and even got better. Same for Whatsapp. Same story for the smaller acquisitions FB did but you don't read so much about in the papers. So far, it looks like they have long term goals, and don't necessarily butcher up any company they buy. So no need to panick just yet.
- The VC company is probably out of the company now. While I'm not one condemning VCs, they have one purpose - buy low, sell high. Their sole purpose is to raise the value of the company and sell it to the highest bidder. To be honest, in that regard, that trade wasn't that bad - I prefer FB, that's not just in for the monetary needs, to a VC company.
- Facebook does have more resources, and they do have the chance to bring this to the mainstream market. Maybe even cheaper. Because FB's interest will not be to make money from selling the device. They have the financial power to sell it with no profit, for long term strategy reasons.
- No matter what FBs long term strategy is, it most likely overlaps with the gamers need a lot. High resolution? Check. Low Latency? Check. Immersiveness? Check. There is no reason why Facebook should try and make it worse.

As long as the hardware is good, I don't care if you can "connect with people and watch virtual football together". Worst case, we'll need open source drivers for it.

Edit: Best case, Zuckerberg is a gamer, just like us, and he likes to push it forward, just like us.
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Son Of Odin on March 26, 2014, 09:26:39 am
Well after I read what you wrote here I'm trying to think positively about it.

The market has changed as well. Sony is also developing their own VR device (Project Morpheus). Oculus probably needed a bigger company to get involved so their product doesn't get completely crushed. Now they can and will be able to compete with Sony. That's only a good thing for consumers since it probably pushes the prices down a tad.

Okay let's not get depressed about it just yet :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Nessaj on March 26, 2014, 09:30:32 am
Second Life [Rebooted] — Facebook edition

Next Generation VR Socialization. No more websites.
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Vibe on March 26, 2014, 11:21:33 am
inbf 3d thumbs up likes on Facebook

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Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: LordBerenger on March 26, 2014, 12:35:51 pm
Lol didn't tons of people kickstart Oculus? Sucks to be them
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Nightmare798 on March 26, 2014, 12:45:25 pm
In b4 sao-like shit happens.
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Prpavi on March 26, 2014, 01:01:01 pm
Lol didn't tons of people kickstart Oculus? Sucks to be them

what were the conditions, do they get the money back if the suceed somthing like Battlegrounds or it's just thx for the cash, gg
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Molly on March 26, 2014, 01:17:44 pm
what were the conditions, do they get the money back if the suceed somthing like Battlegrounds or it's just thx for the cash, gg
Probably different tiers for different prices - mostly "gimme moniez and you'll get vr thing when done." I guess.
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Kafein on March 26, 2014, 01:39:04 pm
Needless to say, this is the biggest "Death of Kickstarter" argument to date.
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: NejStark on March 26, 2014, 01:42:08 pm
what were the conditions, do they get the money back if the suceed somthing like Battlegrounds or it's just thx for the cash, gg

As far as I know they kickstarted the DK1, which happened. All links severed.

Also chadz makes good points, people should read them.
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Kafein on March 26, 2014, 02:07:53 pm
Note that the guys at Oculus either are not interested anymore and just want to cash out, either actually needed more support (wish is extremely doubtful given what they already got), or lacked the entrepreneurial mindset to not be bitches and get that two billion the hard way.

People never would have backed a project on Kickstarter if it said "Hello this is Facebook we want to make VR goggles give us money", that's a fact.
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: LordBerenger on March 26, 2014, 02:34:46 pm
So if this turns into some gay Facebook-ish crap i guess Sony's VR googles will be the way to go :l
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Butan on March 26, 2014, 02:34:51 pm
Facebook and Google seems to become the first megacorporation on earth, buying everything that is somewhat related to something they could have an interest in.

If they dont bankrupt soon, they will eat countries in the near future  :P

Corporate republics for the win!
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Vibe on March 26, 2014, 02:40:16 pm
Facebook and Google seems to become the first megacorporation on earth, buying everything that is somewhat related to something they could have an interest in.

Microsoft, Oracle, Apple.. list goes on :D
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Joseph Porta on March 26, 2014, 03:50:50 pm
That's a weird way to connect with people....

I reckon its more the fact that its a nxtgen thing, and babylon wants monopoly.
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Kafein on March 26, 2014, 03:54:51 pm
Microsoft, Oracle, Apple.. list goes on :D

It's not even only the "tech" giants doing this either.
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Overdriven on March 26, 2014, 03:55:54 pm
Definite dollar signs in eyes here.

I liked this. Posted a month ago about how someones friend saw Mark Zuckerberg in the Oculus building:

http://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/1wf6mg/so_no_way_to_confirm_this_but_my_friend_works_in/
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: darmaster on March 26, 2014, 04:49:58 pm
i wish i was as rich as mark zoidberg is.. i see these bilionares complaining about stuff, fuckers you're bilioners, you achieved life somehow :/
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Gravoth_iii on March 26, 2014, 05:22:37 pm
Microsoft, Oracle, Apple.. list goes on :D

Even Disney..
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Butan on March 26, 2014, 05:32:14 pm
Microsoft, Oracle, Apple.. list goes on :D

At this scale? Its the first time I hear billions of dollars being spent. The others are doing this in the shadows/less media coverage?
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Teeth on March 26, 2014, 05:35:02 pm
At this scale? Its the first time I hear billions of dollars being spent. The others are doing this in the shadows/less media coverage?
Big companies shelling out cash for ideas, projects and companies in their sphere of interest is nearly as old as capitalism lol.
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: BASNAK on March 26, 2014, 05:40:18 pm
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Post by: LordBerenger on March 26, 2014, 06:01:13 pm
Disney vs Google vs Microsoft vs Facebook
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Butan on March 26, 2014, 06:39:34 pm
Big companies shelling out cash for ideas, projects and companies in their sphere of interest is nearly as old as capitalism lol.

The "at this scale" part of my message is quite important here  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Christo on March 26, 2014, 08:38:37 pm
Screw these mega corporations.
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Kafein on March 26, 2014, 10:31:53 pm
There's a coding horror for every situation

https://twitter.com/codinghorror/status/448892700398350336
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Rumblood on March 27, 2014, 05:06:22 am
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Notch: Minecraft on Oculus Canceled, 'Facebook Creeps Me Out'
Rift-compatible version of Minecraft isn't happening.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/03/25/notch-minecraft-on-oculus-canceled-facebook-creeps-me-out (http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/03/25/notch-minecraft-on-oculus-canceled-facebook-creeps-me-out)

Fuck Facebook and anything they touch. Zuckerbitch is a hypocritical shithead complaining about the NSA and privacy while regularly fucking his Facebook users privacy settings at a whim. I hope more companies drop support for Oculus and Facebook eats the 2 billion dollar brick they shit due to their reputation.
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Moncho on March 27, 2014, 11:58:38 am
The "at this scale" part of my message is quite important here  :rolleyes:
I am sure there are more, but these are some that I have heard of in Spain:
Endesa (Spanish largest electrical company) had a few offers of adquisition for various amounts, by Gas Natural, EON, valued in between 8 and 15 billion euros. Source (Spanish): http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opas_sobre_Endesa
Another one, some of the largest ones (up to 200billion):
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/sep/02/biggest-deals-vodafone-verizon-wireless
And if you take inflation into account, there probably are many many more older ones.

About this one, I do not see it surprising, it is only a matter of time between a project being very succesful and big companies getting interested and going for it. Who is going to make an offer you cannot refuse other than those megacorporations that have the money?
As long as there is competence, and the services they offer have alternatives, preventing monopolies, and driving the prices down without need for outside interference, that is generally good for the public, in theory though, in practice irl they make deals with each other anyway though, and laws have to regulate it (eg international phone prices in Europe)
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Vibe on March 27, 2014, 12:02:32 pm
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The "at this scale" part of my message is quite important here  :rolleyes:

Obviously, it's just that you don't hear for example of Oracle taking over companies because it's business tech. Software for companies/businesses is SUPER EXPENSIVE (caps intended).

For example:
December 13, 2004: After a long battle over the control of PeopleSoft, Oracle announces that it has signed an agreement to acquire PeopleSoft for $26.50 per share (approximately $10.3 billion).

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Post by: Nessaj on March 27, 2014, 03:29:24 pm
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Post by: Vibe on March 27, 2014, 05:23:08 pm
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Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Christo on March 27, 2014, 09:47:07 pm
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Haha, gotta love the internet
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Kafein on March 27, 2014, 10:07:21 pm
As long as there is competence, and the services they offer have alternatives, preventing monopolies, and driving the prices down without need for outside interference, that is generally good for the public, in theory though, in practice irl they make deals with each other anyway though, and laws have to regulate it (eg international phone prices in Europe)

Well no, this is never good for the consumer. Such acquisitions imply a reduction in competition and an increase in cross-ownership. The former slows down technological advancement and increases prices while the latter creates conflicts of interests between the new branch and the rest of the activities of the buyer. In other words, the new technology cannot develop itself harmoniously and neutrally.
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Fredom on March 27, 2014, 10:09:41 pm
Facebook will buy cRPG to try to catch a loyal community but not with me!!!!!
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on March 28, 2014, 06:00:53 am
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Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Vibe on March 28, 2014, 01:18:51 pm
since we're talking about big corps and money

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Post by: Son Of Odin on March 28, 2014, 02:36:23 pm
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Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on March 28, 2014, 06:54:57 pm
Just buy valve goggles when they release it.
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Molly on March 28, 2014, 08:03:46 pm
I read there's some Kickstarter campaign for a game where they made a stretch goal for 2.000.000.000 to buy back Oculus from Facenbook :)
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Leshma on March 28, 2014, 11:06:45 pm
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Leshma on March 28, 2014, 11:20:13 pm
Introducing Michael Abrash, Oculus Chief Scientist (http://www.oculusvr.com/blog/introducing-michael-abrash-oculus-chief-scientist/)

For those who are not familiar, dude in question has been working at Valve on their VR headset... this could mean two things. First is that Valve won't make VR headset because they aren't competent. Second is the scary one, mostly my imagination and I hope I'm seriously wrong about this... you see, Valve is a private company. Facebook was mentioning video game console recently... I really hope that Facebook won't pull another stunt and buy Valve :(
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: chadz on March 29, 2014, 12:25:49 am
Valve has stated multiple times that the are only developing VR technology for R&D, not to sell to customers. Which makes sense. Valve is a software company. Same with the steam machines, they don't produce them, they developed the specs and the software for it.

Now, of course, it's not unlikely that this is going to change in the future, but don't expect any consumer VR equipment from Valve for the next 2, 3 years. They are just not ready for that yet.


As for facebook buying valve.. No. Just no. That's not even unlikely, that's impossible. From both sides.

First of all, facebook only buys startups. They are looking for companies to buy that are young, have the potential for exponential growth, and fit their strategy. Valve is a settled company, it's a cash cow, and while they probably will get more successful, it's not exponential any more. What would they do with Valve? What potential could FB see in valve? They would need plans to make Valve x times as profitable as it is right now. How would they do that?

Buying the OR company makes sense. The thing is on the rise, it could easily be worth 20B$ in a few years.

Valve is already highly profitable and independent. It's not a startup, it's a big player. Why would any owners of Valve be interested in selling out when it's already a money printing machine.

The thought of facebook buying Valve is as absurd as Google buying facebook.

Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Leshma on March 29, 2014, 01:05:27 am
Google can't buy Facebook anymore, even if they wanted. And they obviously don't want.

Microsoft on the rise, was much different than young giants of tech industry. Bill Gates was bigger jew than Zuckerberg will ever become. He didn't buy out competition, he ruined them.

Next came Google, their strategy is to buy what they find useful. They have a plan and are sticking with it. They don't buy out competition, not their style. If they did that, Facebook would be part of Google a long time ago.

Facebook is typical company that is buying out any possible threat. Oculus is different and no one really knows motivation behind this deal. Saying that Oculus VR will be worth 20 bil in next few years is something fresh entrepreneurs like to say. Reality is, Oculus VR in this shape and form will never become a big thing. It's something geeks like you and me drool over because we've seen it in sci-fi movies when we were kids.

Oculus lacks elegance and low price to became popular among masses. Facebook might change the price part, but bulkiness will stay. People don't want them 3d glasses on their heads which is the main reason 3d flopped (again) but you expect them to wear Oculus... not to mention that Oculus is death sentence to human eyes because damn screens are so close, focal point will be fucked up much faster than it already does with focusing on stationary objects like books and screens.

I think that Zuckerberg is a kid inside like you and me (well I'm obvious case, you're a kid because instead of making big buck at some software company dealing with security you chose to make a dream game working from a wooden shack). He probably has some crazy ideas that don't involve profits as much shareholders prefer. Also Zuckerber as being one of young great CEO probably tried to get in touch with his idols and learn from them. His way of doing things remind me of Great Bill, just moderate and fit to the timeframe.

That is where Valve fits in perfectly. It's not expensive as Sony and doesn't come with ton of baggage like Japs do. Valve is tight and efficient. And is Facebook's only way to become really big player in future of gaming.

Of course, no reason for Gaben to sell out to young jew kiddo. But as you said, Valve has become steady income company, no annual growth will happen from this point onward. Unless they change something, become bigger. But I don't think they can do that on their own against companies like Sony and Microsoft. What Facebook can offer them is money, fame among general crowd (non gamers) and something that matters the most. Facebook is second or third company in the world when it comes to number of programmers and servers. They have fucking internet backbone in their backyard (or graveyard luls), they have infrastructure and with time passing that will mean a lot or tech companies that want to go big.

Also Gaben worshipers hate Facebook, that's like 50 mil of fresh and steady customers.
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Vibe on March 29, 2014, 01:08:59 am
Oculus is different and no one really knows motivation behind this deal.

There's only one motivation for shelling out 2 billions on a deal: more billions.
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Leshma on March 29, 2014, 01:16:15 am
400 mil actually. Rest is just part of a big bubble called Facebook. Google is a bubble to an extent but they started to closely work with companies that actually make buck by selling stuff that actually exist in a physical world. Whole this internet ads business could be shut down if America grows balls and write some laws that actually protect privacy.
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Clockworkkiller on March 29, 2014, 02:18:16 am
Damn chadz why u so smrt make shorter posts plz
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: chadz on March 29, 2014, 03:26:07 am
Ahh where to start.

So first things first. One company buying another one is nothing evil per se. It's the goal of most IT startups.

Now, the reason why Google and Facebook buy companies has nothing to do with competition. Both are very aware of the biggest threat of IT companies, which is what basically happened to Microsoft: running stale.

A few years ago, Google had a very specific reputation regarding acquisitions: They give you an offer. A very good offer. They don't negotiate, and if you turn it down, they never approach you again, then that door is closed forever.

That worked quite well for them, until Facebook started screwing them over. Because Facebook was willing to negotiate, and Facebook was willing to pay more if they really, really wanted something. So Google couldn't just do their godfather thing any more, and that's why the prices for those successful startups exploded so rapidly in the last years.

Reality is, Oculus VR in this shape and form will never become a big thing.
I bet you, 10 years ago you would have laughed at the idea of smartphones. They are more expensive than normal cells, they are bulkier, they need to be recharged daily.
I can't tell you if it will become the next big thing. No one can. Everyone who claims he knows is full of BS.

Zuckerberg doesn't know either, but he thinks the possibility is there. Which is how startup acquisitions work. You have something with the potential to become big. Out of 10 companies, 9 crash, one rises. Investors have no idea which one that is. That's why they put their money into multiple companies.

I think you misjudge the position of Valve completely. They make more than a billion $ revenue per year. Probably even a lot more. You don't just buy a company like that. Valve's value was estimated 4B$ in 2010. And they did grow heavily in the last years. By now, they're worth a multitude of that. And even then, you don't buy a company by it's worth, but you have to add something on top so the owners are actually willing to sell. Server infrastructure for Valve, that's pennies, do you really think they have to rely on facebook and their webservers?

Valve is not a ball, Valve is a player.

Instagram, Whatsapp, Snapchat, you know how much profit they made? Nada. And FB paid/was willing to pay billions for them. All of FBs acquisitions have one thing in common: They are not fully developed yet. There was potential. They made no or little money.
OR fits facebooks portfolio perfectly. Valve doesn't.

Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on March 29, 2014, 03:32:58 am
I'm sad that FB bought Oculus :(. I wish gayben would have bought them out.
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Clockworkkiller on March 29, 2014, 03:42:38 am
chadz plz
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Nessaj on March 29, 2014, 10:37:54 am
It would seem that more are working on some sort of VR though, from both VALVe (speculated) and RAZER (confirmed) so far. Hopefully more will rise to the occasion, if anything then competition is good at least, but a credible rival to FB's VR is sorely needed atm.
I would hugely support VALVe if they decided to announce something, bring on the crowd funding :D

I think that what people are afraid of with OR and FB is that 'money talks' -- which has been the reason all along for every single Facebook acquisition;
People have to remember that their income is through advertisement and selling user-information (especially targeted advertisement), e.g. your surf habits, what do you talk about most, which words do you use mostly, what do you tag, at which point of the day do you mostly visit X/Y so they can shove ads in your face regarding X/Y at the most "appropriate" time. Everything is about maximizing profit. Rightfully so, they're a huge corporation with profit as their end goal.

Acquisitions such as the ones chadz mentions, while they're still clearly in the red in terms of profits, their profits comes from either shoving ads in your face or selling your behavior in said apps, either for targeted advertising or otherwise.

In time, no doubt they'll be profitable, and overall the amount of more users it brings to facebook = more ads shown = profit.


But I don't see how anyone can think that Facebook is this benevolent IT giant, or developer, they're the furthest from it, yes, it might be an awesome place to work at etc, but this isn't a innovative tech studio, they're a corporate stock-traded giant. Just try and recall all the privacy issues they've had and still do, all the various lawsuits, the issues with groups and pages being shut down for weird reasons, the huge scam they got going with the official selling of Facebook likes/views:


I just hope that this purchase will drive innovation for VR and the technology for VR forward, for the benefit of everyone, not for the benefit of a small amount of stockholders.
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: SixThumbs on March 29, 2014, 01:58:17 pm
Facebook is the gateway drug to crack cocaine obviously.

And I gave you a "like" when you shared that your dog died.

I also can't find the image of the former FBI director just chillin' in the Facbook offices with a coffee cup.
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: chadz on March 30, 2014, 11:32:37 am
A comment from Carmack (in the comments section of http://peterberkman.tumblr.com/post/80827337212/wrong-and-right-reasons-to-be-upset-about-oculus )

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I share some of your misgivings about companies "existing and operating only to be acquired". I am a true believer in market economies, and the magic of trade being a positive sum game is most obvious with repeated transactions at a consumer level. Company acquisitions, while still (usually) being a trade between willing parties that in theory leaves both better off, have much more of an element of speculation rather than objective assessment of value, and it definitely feels different.

There is a case to be made for being like Valve, and trying to build a new VR ecosystem like Steam from the ground up. This is probably what most of the passionate fans wanted to see. The difference is that, for years, the industry thought Valve was nuts, and they had the field to themselves. Valve deserves all their success for having the vision and perseverance to see it through to the current state.

VR won't be like that. The experience is too obviously powerful, and it makes converts on contact. The fairly rapid involvement of the Titans is inevitable, and the real questions were how deeply to partner, and with who.

Honestly, I wasn't expecting Facebook (or this soon). I have zero personal background with them, and I could think of other companies that would have more obvious synergies. However, I do have reasons to believe that they get the Big Picture as I see it, and will be a powerful force towards making it happen. You don't make a commitment like they just did on a whim.

I wasn't personally involved in any of the negotiations -- I spent an afternoon talking technology with Mark Zuckerberg, and the next week I find out that he bought Oculus.
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Son Of Odin on March 30, 2014, 11:20:31 pm
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Pras Gaben!
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Vibe on March 31, 2014, 10:38:15 am
pras our lord and saviour gaben
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: BlindGuy on March 31, 2014, 11:30:52 am

- No matter what FBs long term strategy is, it most likely overlaps with the gamers need a lot. .... Low Latency? Check. Immersiveness? Check. There is no reason why Facebook should try and make it worse.

You seem to have a pretty decent understanding of many things, but that sentence made me laugh :D

If immersive ads are your thing... :D

Then again, the latency point: I changed my name to a spastic collection of characters and removed everything I could before deactivating my facebook YEARS ago (obviously you cannot delete the account, it is ovvned by FB not the user), because of hovv their 'chat' system and ads are constantly refreshing the page, sucking your bandvvidth :D
Title: Re: Facebook just bought Oculus
Post by: Nessaj on May 08, 2014, 01:10:29 am
Second Life [Rebooted] — Facebook edition

Next Generation VR Socialization. No more websites.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/5/5684236/oculus-wants-to-build-a-billion-person-mmo-with-facebook (http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/5/5684236/oculus-wants-to-build-a-billion-person-mmo-with-facebook)

 :lol:

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While Iribe admits that a billion-person MMO is "going to take a bigger network than exists in the world today," he says Facebook's network makes a great place to start, and suggested it could be a Metaverse that joins disparate virtual worlds.

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Oculus hopes to convince players that they're having a "real conversation" with another person.

The coolest part though:

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here's another potential application for all those people. Last year, NASA dreamt how a billion-person VR holodeck could help search the cosmos for signs of extraterrestrial life (http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/27/4154900/nasa-athlete-leap-motion-GDC). That sounds like a game worth playing.