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cRPG => Beginner's Help and Guides => Topic started by: WITCHCRAFT on March 24, 2014, 03:30:55 am
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I had been looking at different level 32+ builds when the wpf rework gave everyone a free respec. My main character was level 33 and I decided to power onwards to level 34 and go for a build that just isn't possible at lower levels. I settled on this:
STR: 24
AGI: 21
Power Strike: 8
Athletics: 7
Weapon Master: 7
1 unassigned skillpoint
One Handed WPF: 94 (115 with synergy)
Polearm WPF: 145 (155 with synergy)
It's great fun if you like to fight offensively. Four directional poles like the poleaxes, staves, and war/red tassel spears are amazing and hold their own against dedicated longsword/greatsword users. Slower polearms deal staggering damage with 8 PS and fast footwork. I have several +3 daggers and 1H weapons that I can use for backup or go 1H swashbuckler if I want a different playstyle. Strat battles always have something nice for my build.
Before I hit level 34 I was planning on dumping all my wpf into polearms, but I realized that it was not worth the investment to me. With 5 WM I had 145 Pole WPF. With 7 WM and pure Pole it would go up to 170. If I put all of that into One Handed WPF, the synergy boosts 145 Pole to 155. For the price of 15 Pole WPF I gained 115 One Handed WPF. With many polearms, it helps to have a short backup weapon for 1v1 fights when your enemy is too close to stab. I can play a pikeman and switch to 1H for close quarters fighting and still deal devastating damage. 115 WPF in 1H and 8 PS is enough that I have not had any glancing blows yet.
I know that skipping IF is blasphemy to some players, but I would rather hit harder and faster than be able to take more hits. 24 STR gives a decent amount of HP on its own. With 50~ or so head and body armor I have survived arrows, bolts, and throwing weapons to the head. It takes a high speed couch to one-hit me. That is plenty sturdy for me. The most fun I've ever had in CRPG is fighting in small 1v1 to 5v5 skirmishes. Manual blocking, darting between enemies, feinting, swinging around and just putting everything I've got into my attacks. It gets my adrenaline going. When I just started playing M&B I marveled at people who could do this. Finally, I can be that guy.
I've played archers, crossbowers, throwers, shielders, cav. Nothing compares to intense melee fighting with no shield. Does anyone else have a similar build? What did you like/hate about it? I almost put the 94 wpf into crossbow instead of 1H for strat battles, but I am glad that I didn't. 1H and Pole weapons have a HUGE variety of playstyles, so I never get bored.
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This sounds absolutely delightful for tickling/THWOCKing people with a bamboo spear
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I agree with most of what you say Witchcraft, but a bit iffy over str vs speed thing, depending on play style people are use to.
Also you'd make a difficult opponent to beat :)
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iffy over str vs speed thing,
I did 18/24 1H shielder before, but decided to lean towards strength on this build. 7 athletics with heavy armor feels "average" to me, but if I wear light mail or cloth armor I seem to outrun everyone on my team when we are leaving spawn at start of the round. 8 PS with good speed is amazing. You can take down heavily armored targets using just a few side swings on a spear. No IF means you can't make any mistakes if you're wearing armor that light though. You'll drop like a fly.
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I would rather hit harder and faster than be able to take more hits.
Agreed, that's what I do with my builds as well. I usually convert some skills to attributes that I could have used on Ironflesh, to get 1 more level of power strike. I'd rather give up a passive defensive skill (being able to get hit more times), to gain an active offensive skill (dealing more damage when I attack).
Tiger, having 7 athletics is way more than enough to stay with the rest of your infantry pack (in NA1 or strat battles). Hell even with 5 athletics people rarely catch me when I'm in the middle of a pack of enemies and moving around.
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IF is useful mainly against cavalry and archers, to survive a few extra shots or bumps. It happens to be the case when wearing heavy armor. Light armor on the other hand, means being quick on your feet so it benefits a more offensive and smart playstyle. Such situations can be avoided and/or dodged with good movement, so your build is probably the best offensive infantry build.
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My longspear builds were always ONLY Athletics and Powerstrike (usually 15/27 at 32). Ironflesh isn't needed at all, especially if you armour up.
Even Weapon Master can be skipped if you make a narrow enough build (in my case, fast enough to counteract slow weapon speed).
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This would be my main's build if I didn't have 6 riding and 3 shield. 24-18 is nice, but that extra athletics would be so fucking sick for melee.
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my build is 21/19 on lvl 32 ..when I hit 33 21/21 ..but its already great fun with my mw double sided lance..the stab is..amazing..
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21/21 is the next best thing if you prefer a bit of IF.
Nice build though.
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Picked up a +3 iron staff yesterday and hooooollllyyy shittttttt. Insanely fast, and killed some plate users in 2-3 hits (with nearly guaranteed knockdown). I think I have a new favorite weapon.
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Picked up a +3 iron staff yesterday and hooooollllyyy shittttttt. Insanely fast, and killed some plate users in 2-3 hits (with nearly guaranteed knockdown). I think I have a new favorite weapon.
you made daruvian upset because you killed him in 1 hit allegedly, wearing transitional.
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Long maul heaven :P
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Long maul heaven :P
I own a loomed long maul and can confirm this. :mrgreen:
I've never been a fan of playing long spear/pike, but I tried out a +3 long spear earlier today and was dominating the enemy team 13-1. I might have to get one of my own.
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I own a loomed long maul and can confirm this. :mrgreen:
I've never been a fan of playing long spear/pike, but I tried out a +3 long spear earlier today and was dominating the enemy team 13-1. I might have to get one of my own.
half of those kills were me mindlessly running into you with a dagger and level 9
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half of those kills were me mindlessly running into you with a dagger and level 9
L2chamber nub.
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I've always been a fan of glass cannon builds.
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I've used this build for a long time now...cept I went the 170 pole. Was watspear forever but fell to great long axe for massive damage. Still have1 unused askill point.
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I think level 35 might actually be attainable for me, and I'm undecided between 4 IF and 4 shield skill at that level. Shield would be a boon in strat battles, but I am getting really used to having all weapon directions available and using manual blocks. I am starting to lean towards IF, but my 1H proficiency (and +3 daggers) would be much more useful if I could carry a shield...
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Picked up a +3 iron staff yesterday and hooooollllyyy shittttttt. Insanely fast, and killed some plate users in 2-3 hits (with nearly guaranteed knockdown). I think I have a new favorite weapon.
Iron staff is awesum! "staffmaster class" mucho fun, i have a lv27[18/21] character, it will have 21/21 by lv 30. Though i dont wear any armor like 11body 20 leg armoror so. I might go 24 agil just for the extra agileness, but it is an awesome and fun weapon to play with. Also dont underestimate them lightning stabs :p
Edit: red tassle is a fun stabber aswell, love that thing should try for sure, hoplite w/ it is nice for a frontline role but the reach is just a bit too short(imo) for a supporting role like the ashwood.