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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Corsair831 on March 22, 2014, 01:30:04 am
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it's pretty clear to me that the Yumi Bow is pretty place less at the moment for crpg; except for the few people playing as themed samurais, no one takes it as a serious weapon - it does a lot less damage than the long bow with vastly less missile speed, and also has vastly less missile speed than the horn bow for only a slight increase in damage
therefore, i suggest buffing the yumi bow's missile speed by 2 points to give it a real use in crpg
thanks a lot, Corsair
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Why do _YOU_ suddenly want to buff a bow?
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THAT'S VERY SUSPICIOUS ISN'T IT, CORSAIR ISN'T EVEN AN ARCHER????!!!!
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Nice to see you finaly started to support the ranged community.
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i respecced my main to archer and i just want justice in the world of bows
it's a really cool looking bow and i'd like to use it :) :)
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It has the same draw speed as the "horn" with "bow" damage and "rus" accuracy. If missile speed was increased it would be a no brainer over the horn at 1 slot. It's more of an HA weapon.
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i respecced my main to archer and i just want justice in the world of bows
it's a really cool looking bow and i'd like to use it :) :)
lol you serious? :mrgreen:
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yumi is fine. I don't see why should we buff that bow to make it better than the horn bow, it's 1slot bow, with 28c, usable on horseback, etc... Take the horn bow if you want more speed, that's all.
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Kerrko gave me his Yumi when he left...
BUFF YUMI!
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Should I wait a Yumi invasion on EU 1 ? Please ...
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Yumi is currently the most awful bow. You cannot use it on foot, it's doing weird things then. On horse it is actually not that bad, but Horn Bow is still the better choice there...
I however love the Yumi Bow. When I was HA, I LOVED it.
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it's pretty clear to me that the Yumi Bow is pretty place less at the moment for crpg; except for the few people playing as themed samurais, no one takes it as a serious weapon - it does a lot less damage than the long bow with vastly less missile speed, and also has vastly less missile speed than the horn bow for only a slight increase in damage
therefore, i suggest buffing the yumi bow's missile speed by 2 points to give it a real use in crpg
thanks a lot, Corsair
Yumi is a good bow for HA as it's low missile speed gives you more speed bonus than other laser-missile-hornbow-like bows. I have seen you use it on the ground. It's a HA's weapon for those who choose to go more damage than 1slot bows.
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A bit on the side but, why are there no 2 slot HA bows?
Give yumi a buff but make it 2 slots.
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Yumi is a good bow for HA as it's low missile speed gives you more speed bonus than other laser-missile-hornbow-like bows. I have seen you use it on the ground. It's a HA's weapon for those who choose to go more damage than 1slot bows.
I thought speed bonus on horseback was drastically reduced?
Not sure how I feel about yumi buff, if it was made 2 slot sure. Otherwise, I think it's fine.
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If it is buffed, it needs "not usable on horseback" trait
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If it is buffed, it needs "not usable on horseback" trait
Aww yeah, you suggest that a bow that was used all over japan by cavalry gets "not usable on horseback" trait.
You know, that sounds like really smart dude.
By the way, what stuff are you smoking?
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Aww yeah, you suggest that a bow that was used all over japan by cavalry gets "not usable on horseback" trait.
You know, that sounds like really smart dude.
By the way, what stuff are you smoking?
Bow
missile speed: 42
weight: 3.5
accuracy: 99
difficulty: 4
speed rating: 58
missile speed: 42
thrust damage: 28 cut
slots: 2
Can't use on horseback
What historical reason can't we use this on horseback for?
And don't be a cunt because you disagree with what I've said, try putting your opinion across in a nicer manner. The weapons are not balanced upon realism, but upon game play.
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Bow
missile speed: 42
weight: 3.5
accuracy: 99
difficulty: 4
speed rating: 58
missile speed: 42
thrust damage: 28 cut
slots: 2
Can't use on horseback
What historical reason can't we use this on horseback for?
And don't be a cunt because you disagree with what I've said, try putting your opinion across in a nicer manner. The weapons are not balanced upon realism, but upon game play.
Yumi is a bow especially designed to be used on horseback. It can be fired from horseback because its asymetrical shape, whereas Bow is too large to be used on horseback.
You ask for a bow that was specifically designed to be used by horse archers to have a trait that makes it not available to be used in such manner, and when I ask you if youre toking, you call me cunt.
Really smooth mate. You deserve 5/10 for effort.
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And don't be a cunt because you disagree with what I've said, try putting your opinion across in a nicer manner. The weapons are not balanced upon realism, but upon game play.
Can't take you serious for a suggestion that would deny a horse bow to be used on horse. How dumb is that. Even if it had 2 slots and more dmg, the bow would still be shit on foot. Ever played foot archer with it? You don't seem to know anything about that. So better go away, back to your threads where you suggest a 2h buff. This thread is far ahead of you.
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Can't take you serious for a suggestion that would deny a horse bow to be used on horse. How dumb is that. Even if it had 2 slots and more dmg, the bow would still be shit on foot. Ever played foot archer with it? You don't seem to know anything about that. So better go away, back to your threads where you suggest a 2h buff. This thread is far ahead of you.
And become over powered on horseback...
I don't play 2h Miwiw, I play archer quite a lot :( Your comments hurt me, I'll go cry now
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Yeahhhaargblabberblabberderp.
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Horn Bow with 6 PD does more damage than the Yumi without a significant speed bonus because the Horn bow gets a bonus to damage from the extra 1 PD(req. 5) while the Yumi requires 6 and thus gets no bonus.
Lolwut.
You still get the PD damage bonus for the PD up to the bows requirement. It's CAPPED at 4+PD requirement, not JUST what PD you got above the requirement.
I.e. A longbow guy with 10 PD gets (10x14%) 140% bonus damage, no (4x14%) 56% bonus damage.
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Yeah yumi is made for HA but i still prefer horn because i believe sacrificing 2 damage for 8 missile speed is a no brainer.
The reason why this is being discussed is because 'Great leader Corsair' thought it would be a great idea to loom the fucking yumi to +3 in strat, despite me telling him to go shove a yumi up his ass if he does so..
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Yumi in strat is a bad idea or will you have 10 HA in every battle?
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Yumi in strat is a bad idea or will you have 10 HA in every battle?
Forced respec to HA for all byz :(
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Basically in the kindest way possible Corsair is a massive reject. :P :P I am no longer applying for any shogunate battles in protest to the yumi bow.
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Lolwut.
You still get the PD damage bonus for the PD up to the bows requirement. It's CAPPED at 4+PD requirement, not JUST what PD you got above the requirement.
I.e. A longbow guy with 10 PD gets (10x14%) 140% bonus damage, no (4x14%) 56% bonus damage.
Yeah, don't know what I was thinking about :?
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Leave alone Yumi's arrow speed, it is flavour of this weapon. It's better to buff accuracy instead. Yumi is indeed accurate enough bow IRL.
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but but we get so boned by going samurai in strat :(
not only is the japanese yumi bow the 3rd most expensive bow, it's also considered the worst
and the katana is ridiculously expensive for it's effectiveness
just help me out :3 ..
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but but we get so boned by going samurai in strat :(
not only is the japanese yumi bow the 3rd most expensive bow, it's also considered the worst
and the katana is ridiculously expensive for it's effectiveness
just help me out :3 ..
Being a weaboo has its price.
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Being a weaboo has its price.
Weapons need to be priced on their effectiveness, not some dorks prejudice.
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Weapons need to be priced on their effectiveness, not some dorks prejudice.
Exactly! You'd think that would be a no brainer!
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Yumi is pretty good, what are you smoking?
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Weapons need to be priced on their effectiveness, not some dorks prejudice.
You wouldnt know a jest if it kicked you in nuts you dummy.
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it's pretty clear to me that the Yumi Bow is pretty place less at the moment for crpg; except for the few people playing as themed samurais, no one takes it as a serious weapon - it does a lot less damage than the long bow with vastly less missile speed, and also has vastly less missile speed than the horn bow for only a slight increase in damage
therefore, i suggest buffing the yumi bow's missile speed by 2 points to give it a real use in crpg
thanks a lot, Corsair
Long bow = 2 slots
Yumi = 1 slot
End of discussion.
/fliesaway
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That's a good point actually. When you said that, it made me look through the Japanese weapons. If someone wants to play as a Japanese archer, their character would have a Yumi, Katana and wakizashi. The Yumi being only 1 slot, the Katana 2 slots and Wakizashi 0 slots (To allow Daisho, I assume)
That's only 3 slots, so they could still have an additional weapon like a shortened spear or other polearm, or a 1 handed weapon, for example.
Shouldn't the Yumi be 2 slots?
I realize there will be characters who use the Yumi, who aren't Japanese themed, but I still think the Yumi should be 2 slots either way.
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That's a good point actually. When you said that, it made me look through the Japanese weapons. If someone wants to play as a Japanese archer, their character would have a Yumi, Katana and wakizashi. The Yumi being only 1 slot, the Katana 2 slots and Wakizashi 0 slots (To allow Daisho, I assume)
That's only 3 slots, so they could still have an additional weapon like a shortened spear or other polearm, or a 1 handed weapon, for example.
Shouldn't the Yumi be 2 slots?
I realize there will be characters who use the Yumi, who aren't Japanese themed, but I still think the Yumi should be 2 slots either way.
Hummm... arrows ? No place for anything else.
Yumi one slot is good, and shouldn't get buffed.
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That's a good point actually. When you said that, it made me look through the Japanese weapons. If someone wants to play as a Japanese archer, their character would have a Yumi, Katana and wakizashi. The Yumi being only 1 slot, the Katana 2 slots and Wakizashi 0 slots (To allow Daisho, I assume)
That's only 3 slots, so they could still have an additional weapon like a shortened spear or other polearm, or a 1 handed weapon, for example.
Shouldn't the Yumi be 2 slots?
I realize there will be characters who use the Yumi, who aren't Japanese themed, but I still think the Yumi should be 2 slots either way.
epic math skills
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I think you did forget that an archer must have some arrows instead of a shortened spear...
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You wouldnt know a jest if it kicked you in nuts you dummy.
If only it were a jest. You either haven't been around here long, or are walking around with blinders on......dummy.
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Hummm... arrows ? No place for anything else.
Yumi one slot is good, and shouldn't get buffed.
Doh! Forgot about them. :D
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yumi op on ha ... ask chase =)
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All the HA bows are op with bodkins. ;)