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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Lt_Anders on February 21, 2014, 02:18:22 am

Title: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 21, 2014, 02:18:22 am
Can we get like a rouncy or something with a Tabard? Something light?
Maybe an Armored Horse Too?
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: Spanish on February 21, 2014, 02:27:53 am
I would ride the shit out of a heraldic light horse especially if it was like my arabian or even a courser for that matter but a rouncey may be too light
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: Bronto on February 21, 2014, 02:33:54 am
Heraldic desert horse!
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: Clockworkkiller on February 21, 2014, 02:38:20 am
heraldic donkey
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: Torben on February 21, 2014, 02:50:52 am
Quote from: Clockworkkiller on February 21, 2014, 02:38:20 am
heraldic donkey

give the donkey a heraldic mohawk
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: AntiBlitz on February 21, 2014, 06:32:15 am
only if it has 8 riding and looks armored, yet actually isnt armored because it has only 6 armor, similar to another piece of shit horse, i want something to rival the uselessness of the eastern horse, because then i wont have to constantly make complaints about the blatant neglect of the big piece of shit.


Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: zagibu on February 21, 2014, 10:13:02 am
Where is the model?
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: En_Dotter on February 21, 2014, 10:59:12 am
Yo Zagibu!  Heraldic Warhorse and chargers are already done in one of the cRPG submods (the compilation with final boss stuff, colored great helm, etc...). You have models for heavier poines there. It would be nice to get em in. ;)
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: MountedRhader on February 21, 2014, 11:39:01 am
Heraldic plated charger.






notice I used the impact font for a horse with a charge of over 40
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: zagibu on February 21, 2014, 02:02:07 pm
Quote from: En_Dotter on February 21, 2014, 10:59:12 am
Yo Zagibu!  Heraldic Warhorse and chargers are already done in one of the cRPG submods (the compilation with final boss stuff, colored great helm, etc...). You have models for heavier poines there. It would be nice to get em in. ;)

Thanks for the link.
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: Boerenlater on February 21, 2014, 02:10:25 pm
Heraldic stones please/
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: zagibu on February 21, 2014, 03:23:24 pm
I can't download the submods, the page is in russian and there doesn't seem to be a download link.
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: AntiBlitz on February 21, 2014, 06:25:58 pm
Quote from: zagibu on February 21, 2014, 03:23:24 pm
I can't download the submods, the page is in russian and there doesn't seem to be a download link.

learn russian?
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: Tovi on February 21, 2014, 06:29:19 pm
Colored charger would be enough. Everything else seems inaccurate.
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: Sagar on February 21, 2014, 06:33:29 pm
I find submods on my computer, and upload it here - http://www.filedropper.com/crpgsubmods
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: En_Dotter on February 21, 2014, 07:00:22 pm
Quote from: zagibu on February 21, 2014, 02:02:07 pm
Thanks for the link.

Np man. Its so cool when you post something and then click edit and forget to confirm edit :D.

Ok so here is the link that isnt in russian (i just uploaded it on dropbox....):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cyo6r64pl03usux/CRPGSubmods.zip


(You will find heraldic lancec, heraldic horses, final boss loom pack...)
Whatever you do DO NOT insteall last 2 submods. The 1300 and 1450 (or similar). Those 2 mods will replace your entire eastern gear models with western (long sword instead of katana for example, etc).
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 21, 2014, 11:24:47 pm
Quote from: zagibu on February 21, 2014, 10:13:02 am
Where is the model?

I'm bad. But I can put out Ideas at least!

I just wish we had lighter horses cause I want a Heraldic Rouncey.
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: zagibu on February 22, 2014, 01:37:40 am
I checked out Warham's horses, and turning the large warhorse into a heraldic version is an interesting idea. Basically, it would be like the one we already have, but the head would show the mail armor that's underneath the barding. Colored charger also seems an option, although I think the original texture is already quite lowres. I added them on my todo list.
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 22, 2014, 01:58:34 am
Quote from: zagibu on February 22, 2014, 01:37:40 am
I checked out Warham's horses, and turning the large warhorse into a heraldic version is an interesting idea. Basically, it would be like the one we already have, but the head would show the mail armor that's underneath the barding. Colored charger also seems an option, although I think the original texture is already quite lowres. I added them on my todo list.

Any Chance the Lighter/weaker horses can get a Heraldic?
Something Like this?
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Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: zagibu on February 22, 2014, 12:09:19 pm
If you have a model, sure.
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: Rico on February 22, 2014, 12:58:27 pm
Quote from: Clockworkkiller on February 21, 2014, 02:38:20 am
heraldic donkey
http://forum.melee.org/suggestions-corner/add-heraldic-donkey/msg952699/#msg952699
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: zagibu on February 23, 2014, 02:56:36 pm
I tried my best with the colored charger, but unfortunately, the base texture is just bad, so the result is not great:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: Tovi on February 23, 2014, 03:28:52 pm
Not so bad.
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: Ronin on February 23, 2014, 05:22:59 pm
I'd say we can skip heraldic chargers, but that's my opinion.
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: zagibu on February 23, 2014, 05:35:33 pm
I also made this heraldic large warhorse. It's like the barded one, but shows the mail protection on the head, which means it could have the same stats as the large warhorse maybe:

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Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: Ronin on February 23, 2014, 05:45:46 pm
Marvelous
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: Inglorious on February 24, 2014, 12:13:05 am
Quote from: zagibu on February 23, 2014, 02:56:36 pm
I tried my best with the colored charger, but unfortunately, the base texture is just bad, so the result is not great:
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(click to show/hide)

Good enough for me. Also, it looks very good in game. I +3'd a charger specifically for the pack about a year ago. Deep colors work the best.
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: no_rules_just_play on March 20, 2014, 09:27:47 am
Bump, any news?
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: Tzar on March 20, 2014, 12:37:19 pm
Quote from: no_rules_just_play on March 20, 2014, 09:27:47 am
Bump, any news?

Awaiting council approval.... dunno who´s in the council an why they just dont say yes....  :?
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: San on March 20, 2014, 02:20:11 pm
Should be getting in eventually, not many people are voting on stuff recently. Needs 1 more vote.
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: Angellore on March 20, 2014, 04:19:17 pm
Quote from: zagibu on February 23, 2014, 05:35:33 pm
I also made this heraldic large warhorse. It's like the barded one, but shows the mail protection on the head, which means it could have the same stats as the large warhorse maybe(...)
To be honest, it would be better if we have different stats on each item. We can assume those heraldic horses uses additional/thicker surcoat (the one with banner), so maybe they should get slightly more defence (surcoat gives slightly more protection), but a bit less charge (hitting with surcoat creates additional softness).
I guess having same stats on 2 items isn't bad solution either, but different stats gives more options, which is always good thing to have.

My proposition:
Quote
Barded Warhorse
hit points: 130
body armor: 32
difficulty: 5
speed: 41
maneuver: 41
charge: 24
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Heraldic Barded Warhorse
hit points: 130
body armor: 34
difficulty: 5
speed: 41
maneuver: 41
charge: 22
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Large Warhorse
hit points: 130
body armor: 43
difficulty: 5
speed: 40
maneuver: 41
charge: 34
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Heraldic Large Warhorse
hit points: 130
body armor: 45
difficulty: 5
speed: 40
maneuver: 41
charge: 32
I consider 2 charge in most cases is worth more than 2 defence, but it also depends from playstyle and cav class. From the other hand, heraldic version is better looking one, so I think this kind of stats are reasonable to keep regular versions still popular.


Since we are in horses topic. You should also consider slight horse adjustments:
- Eastern Horse: decrease difficulty to 7 riding, since it's completely unused horse currently with not that good stats in first place.
- War Horse: decrease charge damage from 34 to 30. Considering this horse uses smaller model, it shouldn't deal so huge damage. Especially between Padded Warhorse and War Horse, there is currently huge 10 charge damage difference. Since this horse has best speed from all 40+ def horses, it also has highest additional damage from speed bonus. That's why it just don't deserve to have as high charge as Large Warhorse.
- Cataphract Horse: increase maneuver from 39 to 40, decrease charge damage from 36 to 35. This horse deserves slight maneuver buff since like ages. It's good horse, but considering stats, Large Warhorse is better choice atm.
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: no_rules_just_play on April 06, 2014, 06:32:05 pm
zagibu pls :(
Title: Re: So we have a Medium Heraldic horse...
Post by: no_rules_just_play on April 22, 2014, 11:55:12 am
Quote from: no_rules_just_play on April 06, 2014, 06:32:05 pm
zagibu pls :(
I beg thee