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Strategus => Strategus General Discussion => Topic started by: Butan on February 19, 2014, 05:05:11 pm

Title: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Butan on February 19, 2014, 05:05:11 pm
I'm not even red-lining some obvious alt name or obvious not-clan-members-but-famous-accomplices else I would ran out of red color.


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If there is not enough admin looking for shit like that, I'll personally monitor the most obvious-important upcoming battles/battles archive so people get banned if applying without showing en masse AI side, like in previous rounds, when I wasnt an active player but heard fucked up stories.

And dont even try to apply AND show up BUT play bad on purpose AND give free gear to attackers. This will be a bit harder to monitor and provide screenshot of, but if you try to do this with more than a few inside guys, even your fake in-game nicknames wont protect you from me.



People are watching, you may think you're smart but you aint.

Basically, conquer your stuff the right way or go play lego.




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Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: En_Dotter on February 19, 2014, 05:09:48 pm
Amazing... Its not enough to have total of 55365375373 players in UIF...
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Osiris on February 19, 2014, 05:11:33 pm
Mercs fight in GO battles only for that contract they are free to sign up for any side in any other battle afaik :P Mercs roster support Grey Order battles not any battle GO see fit to take part in.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Braeden on February 19, 2014, 05:14:40 pm
Superior Grey Tactics.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: [ptx] on February 19, 2014, 05:15:36 pm
Commenting for dramafeed.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Ikarus on February 19, 2014, 05:21:55 pm
EDIT: whoa shit, so many downvotes for a lil joke xD

EDITEDIT: I erased the message because ppl kept downvoting me. Strat crazy freaks  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on February 19, 2014, 05:22:12 pm
Eastern bloc mentality.

If you don't like it, you can just GET OUT.

They remind me of the hicks in the southern united states.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: woody on February 19, 2014, 05:51:26 pm
Sorry but volunteering for defence to undermine it is not cheating as such, however its is manipulation of a system flaw where AI wont not hire because its basically unintelligent. Manipulating a non thinking AI in this way is not clever tactics, its flaw exploitation.

However while it currently is not cheating I think there should be server rules banning this as there is for other exploits. It is not exactly hard to work out.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Teeth on February 19, 2014, 05:55:24 pm
Well fuck, if we have to fight a 44 vs 80 mercs battle I fucking hope there are a few bad apples in there. Not that I condone any of this behaviour but jesus those merc ratios. Also, Mercs are probably signing against us because we are going for the same area as they are.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Life on February 19, 2014, 05:58:37 pm
ahh.... strat  :lol:
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: imisshotmail on February 19, 2014, 06:03:12 pm
Fairly sure the reason people are signing up for defense, is because villages are randomly paying 400+ strat gold to people in some battles. Maybe instead of jumping to conclusions about them trying to cheat you should give them the benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Moncho on February 19, 2014, 06:27:39 pm
This is further amplified by the anonymous signups, since people can just change their names and pretend they are someone else. Also, it would be fun if some of those people were actually other people usurping these names
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Tuetensuppe on February 19, 2014, 06:41:31 pm
Mercs fight in GO battles only for that contract they are free to sign up for any side in any other battle afaik :P Mercs roster support Grey Order battles not any battle GO see fit to take part in.

this

Also, Mercs are probably signing against us because we are going for the same area as they are.

some of us applied for you as we are neutral, but you didnt pick us...so the AI did it ;)
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Thovex on February 19, 2014, 06:54:35 pm
Nord the Rogue isn't even a Nord. But thumbs up for effort trying to contain Nords in all UIF alliances (Last Strategus too.  :P ) while we barely do shit in Strategus, atleast we uphold the name of a big active clan while being, less so.   :lol:
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Kamirane on February 19, 2014, 07:35:19 pm
Maybe they signed for defender side to TK the Defenders!!! What a wonderfull tactic :)
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Andswaru on February 19, 2014, 07:35:55 pm
I signed for both sides Butan. Shogun just accepted me first. Also Waylander are fighting with the Nords this round, just so you can add more redcrayon to your illuminati sketch.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Jarlek on February 19, 2014, 07:49:39 pm
"hmm, clan A is attacking a neutral fief and clan B, C and D's guys are applying for both attack and defense. Obviously this means they are all doing so to sabotage the defense and teamkill/not show up, and not that they, you know, are neutral and the guys in each clan can apply for whatever side they want."

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Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Corsair831 on February 19, 2014, 08:46:16 pm
shit, we don't know anything about that, but i thought the whole point of the "anonymous" system was so people can fight against their allies if they want to? :/

the whole 44 vs 80 this is also BS IMO.

also, i object to not being called smart, i could be really fucking smart you don't know, FU :( :( :(

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edit: also, who said we're UIF, we weren't UIF last strategus and who says we'll be UIF this strategus? our diplomacy page says nothing of "allies" or "enemies", only that we're laying claim to Dhirim.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: NejStark on February 19, 2014, 09:15:15 pm
One part of me thinks kinda shady,

another part thinks legit meta infiltration of defending forces. All the more reason to take those places and control rosters.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: serr on February 19, 2014, 09:18:59 pm
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Wonder where the 51 person limit went.

Since AI wont do roster call, it should have more players. On other hand 80 vs 44 is a bit too much, I think it should be 80 vs 51
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on February 19, 2014, 09:20:24 pm
It's more a case of clan A attacking a fief and then a load of clan A sign up for defenders. Anything else i'm fine with and should be a whole load of fun, clan B C and D should do whatever they want, but what's the 'rational' explanation for clan A signing up for defenders then hmmm?


The possibility to get paid 400 silver from the AI forces :P

But yeah, there should be some algorithm that denies people from the same faction signing up for AI fief defenses.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Keshian on February 19, 2014, 10:28:35 pm
The possibility to get paid 400 silver from the AI forces :P

But yeah, there should be some algorithm that denies people from the same faction signing up for AI fief defenses.

In strat 2 they just made it bannable offense if they signed for defense and then trolled or obviously were just wasting gear and not trying.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Andswaru on February 19, 2014, 10:39:19 pm
In strat 2 they just made it bannable offense if they signed for defense and then trolled or obviously were just wasting gear and not trying.

Was the same in 3 and 4 also, hopefully the same still.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Harpag on February 20, 2014, 01:12:40 am
I'm not even red-lining some obvious alt name or obvious not-clan-members-but-famous-accomplices else I would ran out of red color.


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If there is not enough admin looking for shit like that, I'll personally monitor the most obvious-important upcoming battles/battles archive so people get banned if applying without showing en masse AI side, like in previous rounds, when I wasnt an active player but heard fucked up stories.

And dont even try to apply AND show up BUT play bad on purpose AND give free gear to attackers. This will be a bit harder to monitor and provide screenshot of, but if you try to do this with more than a few inside guys, even your fake in-game nicknames wont protect you from me.



People are watching, you may think you're smart but you aint.

Basically, conquer your stuff the right way or go play lego.




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First image refers to a battle which will be on Friday, so we are not serious, and the second is just result of a lack of discipline in this particular battle and nothing more, so please be so kind and chill out a bit - have to be a kid in the fog to buy such nonsense. Cool propaganda, Mr. Detective, but pity that so stupid  :wink:
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Panos_ on February 20, 2014, 01:37:36 am
^ Yeah, fuck you Butan, throwing mud to the face of the innocent Grey Order, they never cheat! Past strategus rounds proved that  :rolleyes:


Sarcasm mode off :

Seriously Hetman&Harpag, I feel sorry for you guys, you keep cheating in every strategus round, really, and whats even sadder is seeing Mercs playing for Grey Order, Nocti`s bones will shake.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Duty Calls on February 20, 2014, 01:45:14 am
Comment for the dramafeed
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: woody on February 20, 2014, 03:19:22 am
Pseudonym means you cant believe everything you read on rosters, I think some people may be having a little jest.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Keshian on February 20, 2014, 05:48:47 am
Pseudonym means you cant believe everything you read on rosters, I think some people may be having a little jest.


I think he is going by banner.  Pseudonyms actually have blank box like someone who has no strategus character.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: GRANDMOM on February 20, 2014, 07:50:14 am
Well, I am sure that the GO will not exploit this, and if the do we will all notice and I am sure that the devs will keep their eyes on this now. I know I will monitor it to the extreme and get screens of every incident.

I also swear that the Kalmars wont exploit it, even if it isnt regulated by rules - its still a load of bullshit to do it.
We have enough members to take a village and stand tall while doing it, Im guessing GO has aswell.

So even one GO in the wrong roster means foul play in my book
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Vibe on February 20, 2014, 08:21:03 am
Yep it's good to be the observer when it comes to strategus. It's like watching a pack of nerds duke it out in a gladiator pit.

Let's go bitches, entertain me

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Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: MountedRhader on February 20, 2014, 09:04:58 am
You aren't the only one who's been betrayed on count of strategus
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Kalp on February 20, 2014, 10:53:39 am
omg such a drama,  few players want to participate in strat battle and want to fight well....
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Harpag on February 20, 2014, 11:19:49 am
I think that everyone who already know me a little, know what I think about this whole situation, but just in case I remind you:
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Knitler on February 20, 2014, 02:37:20 pm
I dont get one thing ... how can i actually be defender and attacker at the same time at corsairs battle, and how can i be defender in switch´s battle without even applying XD? Good bugs .... great bugs.
You see the ppl with the transparent color? They are actually not even in the battle, check it.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Kalp on February 20, 2014, 02:45:26 pm
chadz should disable using real game-nicks when apply as anonymous.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Erasmas on February 20, 2014, 02:55:24 pm
Easy guys, easy, all current battles are bullshit, due to lack of cash ergo lack of eq. You will see when it happens for good.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Kamirane on February 20, 2014, 04:43:56 pm
chadz should disable using real game-nicks when apply as anonymous.

And disable Clanbanners as well and just add some random
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Knitler on February 20, 2014, 07:21:38 pm
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gosh ...
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Algarn on February 20, 2014, 07:22:25 pm
I know who is trolling you  :lol:
Each strat battles, i'm laughing hard about that  :mrgreen:

Congratulations to byzantium by the way, I did my best to avoid the first defeat of an AI lord.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Knitler on February 20, 2014, 07:24:41 pm
I know who is trolling you  :lol:
Each strat battles, i'm laughing hard about that  :mrgreen:

Congratulations to byzantium by the way, I did my best to avoid the first defeat of an AI lord.

It will go away when the faction battles are happening... but its seriously not nice. Whoever is that is an asshat ...
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Erasmas on February 20, 2014, 07:39:43 pm
You guys even  had same stats  :D
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Blackbow on February 20, 2014, 09:41:53 pm
I'm not even red-lining some obvious alt name or obvious not-clan-members-but-famous-accomplices else I would ran out of red color.


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If there is not enough admin looking for shit like that, I'll personally monitor the most obvious-important upcoming battles/battles archive so people get banned if applying without showing en masse AI side, like in previous rounds, when I wasnt an active player but heard fucked up stories.

And dont even try to apply AND show up BUT play bad on purpose AND give free gear to attackers. This will be a bit harder to monitor and provide screenshot of, but if you try to do this with more than a few inside guys, even your fake in-game nicknames wont protect you from me.



People are watching, you may think you're smart but you aint.

Basically, conquer your stuff the right way or go play lego.




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stop QQ
aliance is part of the war since begining of humanity !!
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Blackbow on February 20, 2014, 11:32:33 pm
...He's underlining them cos they're allies/same faction and they're in the opposing roster...

so what u want to do ? remove freedom to apply for who you want ?
there is nothing to do against so ...
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Harpag on February 21, 2014, 04:25:54 pm
Haha I agree that control is the highest form of trust haha, but now you're just mad, good that at least you are aware of this :wink:  You probably forgot that officiousness is worse than fascism  :P
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Butan on February 22, 2014, 09:00:15 pm
I wanted to wait a bit more before posting again, but there is something a bit special happening for 2 big fights in a row.

Would be cool if someone told that druzhina guy to stop bugging the archive reports. Cant even filter by names, K/D, so its pretty hard to investigate!


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Saw him applying this time, so I went and spectated.
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How am I meant to do my honest detective work? I am not going to be here to join EU3 everytime.... Of course I'm not implying at all that this is done on purpose or whatever, the world is full of trolls right?


Btw nice job helping out the defense against your absolutely-not-allied Kapikulu attack Nuuks THE GREY

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Guess you forgot you had something urgent to do and afk'ed the whole battle after pressing "spawn".

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Well good death anyway.

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This is just a one battle of course... not enough to build a case.

That is just a part of what I intend to do... except a full report week after week until all AI fiefs are done for. If I continue caring anyway.

Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Harpag on February 23, 2014, 12:18:04 am
For your own benefit, invest your time in something more useful...
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Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Sniger on February 23, 2014, 12:59:24 am
me thinks strat is silly.

me thinks strat is one big meta-gaming heaven.

me thinks strat is broken and has been since day 1.

me thinks alot but me knows very little.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Butan on February 23, 2014, 02:35:24 pm
Seems like I was heard:

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Nicknames are so fun in AI defense, in attacks we have only the serious controlled trusty guys.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Sniger on February 23, 2014, 10:49:15 pm
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classic. you guys should play eve online instead of this junk. you will love the amount of epeen you can generate with metagaming in eve.

 :lol:

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Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Nebun on February 24, 2014, 07:51:07 am
big investigator, we don't have anyone with wwwwwwwwwwwwww nick name in our clan
this is some troll who bought banner from auction and applied our banner image
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Nihtgenga on February 24, 2014, 08:27:53 am
big investigator, we don't have anyone with wwwwwwwwwwwwww nick name in our clan
this is some troll who bought banner from auction and applied our banner image

you must be kidding? cant tell me dont know about the new function?!
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on February 24, 2014, 09:23:48 am
big investigator, we don't have anyone with wwwwwwwwwwwwww nick name in our clan
this is some troll who bought banner from auction and applied our banner image

 :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

http://forum.melee.org/index.php?action=profile;u=23824 (http://forum.melee.org/index.php?action=profile;u=23824)
What about a Druzhina_Raziel?
http://forum.melee.org/eu-(official)/ban-epicbarbie1331/msg926913/#msg926913 (http://forum.melee.org/eu-(official)/ban-epicbarbie1331/msg926913/#msg926913)
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Thovex on February 24, 2014, 12:55:38 pm
you must be kidding? cant tell me dont know about the new function?!

tbh I didn't know about it until the panos thing.  :P
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: _RXN_ on February 24, 2014, 01:11:50 pm
I don't understand what's the problem there, the guy is not wasting tickets, he kills enemies, he has a score 3:0 which is better than the score of a half of his team. Where's the crime? Btw, Nebun just came back in Strat after a huge pause, so he didn't know about this new function.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Kalp on February 24, 2014, 01:15:27 pm
I don't understand what's the problem there, the guy is not wasting tickets, he kills enemies, he has a score 3:0 which is better than the score of a half of his team. Where's the crime? Btw, Nebun just came back in Strat after a huge pause, so he didn't know about this new function.
I would like to see this 3-0 on webpage roster score  :!:
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: _RXN_ on February 24, 2014, 01:38:33 pm
His final score was 4-1, you can see it on webpage if you really want it.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Harpag on February 24, 2014, 01:47:16 pm
I don't understand what's the problem there, the guy is not wasting tickets, he kills enemies, he has a score 3:0 which is better than the score of a half of his team. Where's the crime?

There's no crime. There's no problem, except Butan and some other slippery gays with toady mentality of informers and lickspittle my old friends. Embarrassing gayness and lack of true male character will be rewarded. Holy kurwa war.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Kalp on February 24, 2014, 01:58:09 pm
His final score was 4-1, you can see it on webpage if you really want it.
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6617/5z9f.jpg (http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6617/5z9f.jpg)
Tell me.... I want to see "K" and "D" without using any web development tool copy/paste
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: _RXN_ on February 24, 2014, 02:01:18 pm
Kalp, that's why I said, you can see it if you really want.  :wink:
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Butan on February 24, 2014, 02:05:10 pm
Kalp, that's why I said, you can see it if you really want.  :wink:

True, but its taking more time this way (using mouse cursor and overlaping from top to bottom and copy pasting into a .txt doesnt look as good :| ), could you just find this person and tell him to remove a few WWW to his 28 W (knowing W is the biggest letter and 28 is the maximum characters allowed  :rolleyes:), else I will spend more time than I would have, and by Harpag advice I want to play some lego in my freetime. But I will understand if you dont really want to help me  :wink:
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: _RXN_ on February 24, 2014, 02:13:17 pm
Butan, we don't have in our clan a guy with this name:

http://awesomescreenshot.com/0412ed55e5 (the list is sorted by name)
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 24, 2014, 02:14:37 pm
Butan, we don't have in our clan a guy with this name:

http://awesomescreenshot.com/0412ed55e5 (the list is sorted by name)

Cause it's a PSEUDONYM. Not his real name. You can tell by the banner since he didn't remove it.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: _RXN_ on February 24, 2014, 02:19:14 pm
Cause it's a PSEUDONYM. Not his real name. You can tell by the banner since he didn't remove it.
I know, tell this to Butan, cuz he asked me to talk with that guy, like he still has that name. :)
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Thovex on February 24, 2014, 02:23:44 pm
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wow image proof of hetman the grey multiaccoutner ban wtf ??
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Harpag on February 24, 2014, 02:27:33 pm
True, but its taking more time this way (using mouse cursor and overlaping from top to bottom and copy pasting into a .txt doesnt look as good :| ), could you just find this person and tell him to remove a few WWW to his 28 W (knowing W is the biggest letter and 28 is the maximum characters allowed  :rolleyes:), else I will spend more time than I would have, and by Harpag advice I want to play some lego in my freetime. But I will understand if you dont really want to help me  :wink:

Butan please please please - enough is enough - better to continue something for which everyone loved you - http://forum.melee.org/strategus-general-discussion/strategus-tool-belt-v1-0-5-3-%28improved-interface%29/  Why u mad?
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Teeth on February 24, 2014, 03:31:21 pm
I know, tell this to Butan, cuz he asked me to talk with that guy, like he still has that name. :)
RXN, pseudonyms are names you can choose for a single Strat battle, this pseudonym then replaces your normal name when you join the battle.

Which means that if I put in the pseudonym 'Lord_Cockgobbler' and then join the Strat battle with my Byzantium_Teeth character, my name will be displayed as 'Lord_Cockgobbler' on the scoreboard and on the battle archive pages. Which means that a Druzhina member can have WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW as a pseudonym while he has a different name on his actual character. And I agree with the sentiment, that WWW guy should fuck of or get banned because it is just really annoying.
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Erasmas on February 24, 2014, 03:32:14 pm
Nebun just came back in Strat after a huge pause

And THIS is a good news, contrary to some others. Me likes it!
Title: Re: Are you serious guys?
Post by: Mendro on February 24, 2014, 04:52:30 pm
if I put in the pseudonym 'Lord_Cockgobbler'

Sounds nice  :mrgreen: