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Off Topic => Historical Discussion => Topic started by: BASNAK on February 14, 2014, 08:10:14 pm

Title: Why Austria was the greatest military power
Post by: BASNAK on February 14, 2014, 08:10:14 pm
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kar%C3%A1nsebes
Title: Re: Why Austria was the greatest military power
Post by: Xant on February 15, 2014, 06:27:22 am
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The Battle of Karánsebes (Romanian: Caransebeş, Turkish: Şebeş Muharebesi) is a possibly apocryphal episode in the Austro–Turkish War of 1787–1791.
Title: Re: Why Austria was the greatest military power
Post by: BASNAK on February 15, 2014, 02:46:44 pm
Quote from: Xant on February 15, 2014, 06:27:22 am


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xanthoxyl
Title: Re: Why Austria was the greatest military power
Post by: Austrian on February 15, 2014, 07:30:33 pm
I feel offended now  :cry:
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Title: Re: Why Austria was the greatest military power
Post by: the real god emperor on February 15, 2014, 09:42:04 pm
lol

edit: wow, really?

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This was the funniest battle scenario i ve ever read...

It says Austrians fought Austrians , thought they were Turks...  :lol:
Title: Re: Why Austria was the greatest military power
Post by: Lord_Bernie_of_Voodoo on February 16, 2014, 06:19:23 pm
As a fan of Prussia and all its nationalist glory;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War)
Title: Re: Why Austria was the greatest military power
Post by: Chosen1 on February 17, 2014, 05:36:32 am
Quote from: Lord_Bernie_of_Voodoo on February 16, 2014, 06:19:23 pm
As a fan of Prussia and all its nationalist glory;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War)

Well, they only beat the French
Title: Re: Why Austria was the greatest military power
Post by: MountedRhader on February 20, 2014, 12:24:11 am
Those old Austrians did a heroic job of fending off the Ottomans and I take my hat off to them, commend them even for their bravery in the face of such odds. Our cousins down south still possess a little of that fiery furor teutonicus if you catch my drift.

Quote from: Lord_Bernie_of_Voodoo on February 16, 2014, 06:19:23 pm
As a fan of Prussia and all its nationalist glory;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War)

Here, have some Teutonic crosses!

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Title: Re: Why Austria was the greatest military power
Post by: Bittersteel on February 20, 2014, 02:58:10 am
Quote from: Chosen1 on February 17, 2014, 05:36:32 am
Well, they only beat the French

The french, Austria and Russia at the same time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_the_Great

There's some great books covering his entire life if anyone is interested just PM me. Such a good general :3
Title: Re: Why Austria was the greatest military power
Post by: Ikarus on February 20, 2014, 11:00:09 am
There is a reason why our country is so small nowadays  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Why Austria was the greatest military power
Post by: LordBerenger on March 14, 2014, 01:18:31 pm
Bet the Turks were just WTFing afterwards and then LOLing their pants off for the stupidity of those Australians.
Title: Re: Why Austria was the greatest military power
Post by: Torben on March 14, 2014, 01:28:08 pm
"Different portions of an Austrian army, which were scouting for forces of the Ottoman Empire, fired on each other by mistake, causing self-inflicted decimation. The battle took place on the evening of 17 September 1788. The Ottomans were victorious and captured the city.
The army of Austria, approximately 100,000 strong, was setting up camp around the town of Karánsebes (now Caransebeş, in modern Romania). The army's vanguard, a contingent of hussars, crossed the Timiş River nearby to scout for the presence of the Ottoman Turks. There was no sign of the Ottoman army, but the hussars did run into a group of gypsies, who offered to sell schnapps to the war-weary soldiers. The cavalrymen bought the schnapps and started to drink.
Soon afterwards, some infantry crossed the river. When they saw the party going on, the infantry demanded alcohol for themselves. The hussars refused to give them any of the schnapps, and while still drunk, they set up makeshift fortifications around the barrels. A heated argument ensued, and one soldier fired a shot.
Immediately, the hussars and infantry engaged in combat with one another. During the conflict, some infantry began shouting "Turci! Turci!" ("Turks! Turks!"). The hussars fled the scene, thinking that the Ottoman army’s attack was imminent. Most of the infantry also ran away; the army comprised Italians from Lombardy, Slavs from the Balkans, and Austrians, plus other minorities, many of whom could not understand each other. While it is not clear which one of these groups did so, they gave the false warning without telling the others, who promptly fled. The situation was made worse when officers, in an attempt to restore order, shouted "Halt! Halt!" which was misheard by soldiers with no knowledge of German as "Allah! Allah!".
As the cavalry ran through the camps, a corps commander reasoned that it was a cavalry charge by the Ottoman army, and ordered artillery fire. Meanwhile, the entire camp awoke to the sound of battle and, rather than waiting to see what the situation was, everyone fled. The troops fired at every shadow, thinking the Ottomans were everywhere; in reality they were shooting fellow Austrian soldiers. The incident escalated to the point where the whole army retreated from the imaginary enemy, and Holy Roman Emperor Joseph II was pushed off his horse into a small creek.
Two days later, the Ottoman army arrived. They discovered 10,000 dead and wounded soldiers and easily took Caransebeş.
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I would so love to see a movie made from this ^^

reminds me of the german folk movies from the sixties about habsburg times ha!
Title: Re: Why Austria was the greatest military power
Post by: Nightmare798 on March 14, 2014, 01:36:29 pm
Quote from: Chosen1 on February 17, 2014, 05:36:32 am
Well, they only beat the French

Everyone beats french recently...