I will definitely not get to lvl 35 so pls no lvl 35 suggestions, I was thinking of investion into athletis to be able to play town maps too, now question is how much will 3 ath help me as an archer on foot, will it be noticable or wasted points? Most will say IF I know because it is the most logical choice, but I'd like to try something different :D last tought was PS, just for the lolz, when dehorsed, taking a wepon and killing somebody with with and 3 ps, would be lolzy.
so what do you think, what do you suggest?
Title: Re: HA lvl 34, what to invest in?
Post by: Moncho on February 14, 2014, 05:34:53 pm
It is never too late to hit the retire/respec button and go down a less abominable path, alternatively I suggest deleting your character.
Or if you are sure that you want to continue down that road, i'd go IF, unless you use a yumi and can have a 0 slot weapon with you, in which case 3 ps would be nice, since the 3 ps will not really matter much if you refuse to dismount
Title: Re: HA lvl 34, what to invest in?
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on February 14, 2014, 05:35:29 pm
On a serious note: Go for some PS. Its worth the most of all options imo
Title: Re: HA lvl 34, what to invest in?
Post by: Ronin on February 14, 2014, 05:49:19 pm
I use similar armor of protection that you use, and using the speedbonus to your advantage it is possible to reduce the incoming damage with the help of armor. So Ironflesh might be a good choice. It would be my suggestion to you.
3 PS might be useful, but not really advisable as you don't want to reach level 35 to complete it to 6 PS. With that melee wpf though, you probably won't be able to swing it effectively. With 0 athletics and low wpf, most viable option is right swing anyway (with 1handers), considering you're fighting in ground. Although it might be fun and somehow effective if you know when to use your sword on horseback. Still, your wpf is way too low to handle good horseback weapons.
3 Athletics might still be good, some foot archers have only 3-5 athletics (despite higher AGI). Although you know, HA skill reduces the effective wpf so a Horse Archer never has the chance to be equally good as a foot archer anyways.
Title: Re: HA lvl 34, what to invest in?
Post by: Keshian on February 14, 2014, 06:08:20 pm
You will notice the 3 athletics difference, but the 3 powerstrike is significantly more noticeable change. You will glance a lot less on medium to heavier armored opponents and can even have fun and use a melee weapon on horseback occasionaly.
Title: Re: HA lvl 34, what to invest in?
Post by: Algarn on February 14, 2014, 07:55:37 pm
Get an arabian cav sword, it's effective even with 3 PS.
Title: Re: HA lvl 34, what to invest in?
Post by: Nightmare798 on February 14, 2014, 07:57:09 pm
In the first moment I read *HA rule 34* and I was like what the fuck?
Title: Re: HA lvl 34, what to invest in?
Post by: NejStark on February 14, 2014, 07:58:59 pm
Id say PS. Its nice to mix up play with a sword now and then. Also at the end of a round when you're pissing off the last guys (in a winnable scenario) they often just do not expect an Ha to switch to sword and bump slash them. Ive helped win a couple of rounds doing this and Ive seen BattalGazi kill the last 2 inf guys in a 2v1 to win the round.
Title: Re: HA lvl 34, what to invest in?
Post by: Templar_Steevee on February 14, 2014, 08:19:26 pm
i have 2 ps and i'm killing ppl with short arming sword, great fun :mrgreen:
3 ps was the number i used in past before i go hi lvl and those times (no 0 slot 1h words) i were killing ppl with hand axe or pickaxe :)
For fun definetly PS, for making stronger go IF
Title: Re: HA lvl 34, what to invest in?
Post by: Mustikki on February 14, 2014, 08:28:09 pm
Remember Strat 5 coming! How long does it take to have horses in battle. How can pure HA do in siege? etc..
Title: Re: HA lvl 34, what to invest in?
Post by: Kamirane on February 14, 2014, 09:14:49 pm
GO PS. The best decission i made for my HA. If u have a good Team (at least most time in Strat) there is no need of Ath. If u die in Field as HA u are definitly dead without any chance, no matter how fast u are.
Title: Re: HA lvl 34, what to invest in?
Post by: the real god emperor on February 14, 2014, 10:29:24 pm
Eldar Boss has 3 aths afaik.
Don't get PS , 3 points wont get you anywhere without any athletics , i would say take IF , but its just 6 hit points , wouldn't effect "that much". I think you should take athletics , better escaping skills when dismounted, your ground archery skills will increase , also will be more effective at Strat too.
Title: Re: HA lvl 34, what to invest in?
Post by: ilgp7712389_ on February 14, 2014, 10:30:03 pm
HA is cancer
Title: Re: HA lvl 34, what to invest in?
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on February 15, 2014, 06:59:28 am
3 PS, in my opinion. 3 athletics isn't a huge boost, and with 0 you can do just fine on foot. You need to plan far ahead and watch your team, but it works. If you get dehorsed; if you get ganked on a wall in siege/strat; if you have a speedy melee tracking you; running a little faster won't help. 3 PS is enough for pierce/blunt weapons to do damage and (mostly) not glance. Grab a dagger or a cheap mace.
As an archer you aren't gonna be wearing heavy armor. 3 IF isn't a great investment. Fighting back is better than taking one more hit or fleeing a faster opponent. If you get a couple attacks in with a dagger you can often catch dedicated melee off guard and continue your combo. Maces will be pretty slow with low WPF, but knockdown is a great advantage when the fight is heavily in your enemy's favor.
As HA and foot archer, I hate having no melee weapon stats at all. Drives me crazy when a mediocre player takes you down because you glance on every other attack.
Title: Re: HA lvl 34, what to invest in?
Post by: Smoothrich on February 15, 2014, 07:11:19 am
build is crap, respec to 15/24 so you can be full 1hand/ranged cav hybrid with athletics for shit non cav maps
If your build isn't optimized for 34, I think its a better idea to respec back to 33 with a fully fleshed out sweet build. That's what I do when I get near 34 every time.
Title: Re: HA lvl 34, what to invest in?
Post by: Macropus on February 15, 2014, 11:46:47 am
I can say PS is great as a HA, although I had 5 PS and 100 1h WP, so it's a bit different than what you're gonna have. :| It is just so much useful to onehit kill an unaware archer from behind instead of shooting 5 arrows at him. End even on city maps you could just put your bow and arrows away and bumpslash shit, I lol'ed when I ended up with "k/d"s like 9/2 on such maps. Still, I rage respecced soon, so I'm not sure I can advice to use such build.
With your build though, if you intend to have Yumi + 3 stacks of arrows all the time (so, no weapon at spawn), go with IF.
Title: Re: HA lvl 34, what to invest in?
Post by: Torben on February 15, 2014, 11:51:05 am
if you absolutely dont want if, go with ps. 3ps, a good sword, and speed bonus of your horse can give you a good hit.
the 3 athl is noticeable, but wont give you an edge over the standard inf with twice and more.
Title: Re: HA lvl 34, what to invest in?
Post by: Boerenlater on February 15, 2014, 01:17:55 pm
PS.
Title: Re: HA lvl 34, what to invest in?
Post by: Gurnisson on February 15, 2014, 01:25:18 pm
IF if you're still going to use 3 stacks of arrows. PS if you want to take a cavalry sword instead of one of the stacks.
Title: Re: HA lvl 34, what to invest in?
Post by: Prpavi on February 16, 2014, 09:59:12 pm
Thx for all the input guys, I still didn't decide, but I am a step closer...