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Title: Solve me a riddle! :D
Post by: Molly on February 11, 2014, 04:21:26 pm
Out of curiosity I'd like to know who can solve this riddle for me:

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In the picture above is the digital information of "001011" hidden. How? :D

It's not a contest. I am just curious...
Title: Re: Solve me a riddle! :D
Post by: Kafein on February 11, 2014, 04:37:08 pm
Every T corresponds to one bit, and the difference between the zeroes and the ones is that the wave is inverted
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Post by: Latvian on February 11, 2014, 04:39:46 pm
answer is banana
Title: Re: Solve me a riddle! :D
Post by: Molly on February 11, 2014, 04:52:31 pm
Every T corresponds to one bit, and the difference between the zeroes and the ones is that the wave is inverted
I'll just assume that you mean with T the time frame between 2 keying points... so yes, that is correct!

Well, not 100% though cuz the wave isn't inverted.

Follow-up question: What happened to the wave and why isn't it inverted? :D
Title: Re: Solve me a riddle! :D
Post by: Christo on February 11, 2014, 05:08:47 pm
wat dis
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Post by: LordBerenger on February 11, 2014, 05:22:51 pm
Nerd stuff
Title: Re: Solve me a riddle! :D
Post by: Kafein on February 11, 2014, 05:35:40 pm
Obviously T = twice the period of the wave

It looks "inverted" to me, in a completely informal sense, as in you multiply the coordinate of the points of the wave by -1. If I had to guess I'd say you add of substract a half period to the phase to produce that effect.
Title: Re: Solve me a riddle! :D
Post by: chadz on February 11, 2014, 05:38:15 pm
Thats how i "solved" it:

if you take the picture, divide it by the digits of the solution (6), and look at each wave part individually, whenever the middle of the wave is on the top its a 0, otherwise its a 1.

Yes, thats also how i approach coding.
Title: Re: Solve me a riddle! :D
Post by: Kafein on February 11, 2014, 05:42:06 pm
Yes, thats also how i approach coding.

explains a lot
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Post by: Prinz_Karl on February 11, 2014, 05:51:41 pm
Please, let's make a riddle thread again, they were amusing.
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Post by: Thomek on February 11, 2014, 05:57:29 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_modulation
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Post by: BattalGazi on February 11, 2014, 06:15:22 pm
Here it is, pretty simple:

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Post by: cmp on February 11, 2014, 06:27:39 pm
psk
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Post by: Kafein on February 11, 2014, 06:36:21 pm
psk

An engineer's answer.
Title: Re: Solve me a riddle! :D
Post by: Molly on February 11, 2014, 07:33:54 pm
psk
Exactly... Kafein was actually right except for the inverted part.

The phase is shifted for a logic 1 compared to the "standard" frequency.

Interesting to see the other explanations. :D

Some may ask what the point of this stuff is. Well, it's one of the basic principles for our mobile phones. And not far off the real application.
Phase Shift Keying (PSK) is a basic form of modulating information/data onto a waveform. If you add a few simple coding methods to it, you end up with something called DQPSK. And that stuff is still used for data transmission with the EDGE-standard on your mobile phones.
Main difference is that you're not transmitting single bits with it but "dibits" or data symbols. It's not just 0 or 1 but each symbol transmits 00, 01, 10 or 11 and therefore raising the transmission rate :o
Title: Re: Solve me a riddle! :D
Post by: Macropus on February 11, 2014, 09:15:33 pm
I come to crpg forum for some flood and flame, and here you are trying make my brain work, I feel offended
Title: Re: Solve me a riddle! :D
Post by: Molly on February 11, 2014, 09:22:28 pm
I sincerely apologize :cry:
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Post by: Radament on February 11, 2014, 09:25:10 pm
I come to crpg forum for some flood and flame, and here you are trying make my brain work, I feel offended

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