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Title: List of Secondary Modes & Attack Directions
Post by: Utrakil on February 11, 2014, 01:32:05 am
(patch 0.4.4.8)

Secondary Modes:
1h:
Cudgel:    2h - 20b - 101 speed
Small Pickaxe:    18b
Fighting Pick:    25b - 97 speed
Military Sickle:    2h - 30p
Fighting Axe:    2h - 38c - 98 speed
Iron War Axe:    28p
Iron Battle Axe:    27b – 98 speed
Military Pick:    26b - 99 speed
Military Hammer:    30p - 96 speed
Langes Messer:    2h - 34c - 25p - 100 speed
Broad One Handed Battle Axe:    28p
Swedish Sword:    2h – 34c
Lombardic Sword:    2h – 33c – 26p – 100 speed
Steel Pick:    27b - 99 speed
Long Jian:    1h/no shield – 33c – 21p - 96speed
Warhammer:    31p - 97 speed

2h:
Practice Longsword:    pole - 18b - 21b
Persian War Axe:    32p
Goedendag:    pole - 24b – 28p
Persian Battle Axe:    31b – 94 speed
Danish Bastard Sword:    pole – 35c – 27p
Bastard Sword:    pole - 34c -28p
Heavy Bastard Sword:    pole - 35c – 28p
French Longsword:    pole – 32c - 31p
Longsword:    pole - 36c – 28p
German Longsword:   pole - 34c - 31p
Estoc:    pole - 29c – 33p
Crusader Longsword:    pole – 34c - 31p
Two Handed Sword:    pole - 37c – 28p
Flambard:    pole - 40c - 26p
Mercenary sword:    pole – 38c – 30p
Swiss Longsword:    pole – 42c – 27p
Executioner sword:    1h – 36c – 20c – 97 speed
Great Sword:    pole - 36c – 31p
French Greatsword:    pole – 38c – 30p
Highland Claymore:    pole - 42c - 27p
Two Handed Warhammer:    34p
German Greatsword:    pole - 38c – 31p
Danish Greatsword:    pole - 42c - 27p - 93 speed
Sword of War:    pole - 39c – 28p

Pole:
Voulge:    2D - 30p – 89 speed
Guisarme:    4D – 27p – 26p – 89 speed
Long Voulge:    4D – 41c – 33c – 86 speed
Bec de Corbin:    31b
Poleaxe:    27b
German Poleaxe:    30p
Elegant Poleaxe:    28b
Scottish Halberd:    28p

Throwing:
Stones:    1h - 16b - 120 speed
Darts:    1h - 24p - 103 speed
War Darts:    1h - 25p - 102 speed
Francisca:    1h - 32c - 101 speed
Throwing Hammer:    1h - 26b - 100 speed
Throwing Axe:    1h - 34c - 99 speed
European Light Lance    pole(2D) - 16b - 25p - 92 speed
Saracen Light Lance    pole(2D) - 16b - 25p - 92 speed
Heavy Throwing Axe:    1h - 36c - 98 speed
Javelins:    pole - 25c - 23p - 100 speed
European Lance:   pole(2D) - 17b - 26p - 86 speed
Saracen Lance    pole(2D) - 17b - 26p - 86 speed
Broad Throwing Axe:    1h - 38c – 97 speed
Hunting Axe:    1h – 35c – 99 speed
Two handed Trowing Axe:    2h – 40c – 99 speed
Trowing Spear:    pole - 26c - 24p - 99 speed
Jarid:    pole - 27c - 25p - 98 speed
Throwing Lance:    pole - 20b - 25p - 95 speed


Polearms and their attack directions:

4 directional polearms:
Staff   4D
Scythe   4D
Practice Lance    4D
Voulge   4D
Shortened Spear   4D
Quarter Staff    4D
Fauchard    4D
Boar Spear   4D
Spear   4D
Long Hafted Knobbed Mace    4D
Long Spiked Club   4D
Iron Staff    4D
Military Scythe   4D
Halfted Blade   4D
Red Tassel Spear    4D
Double Sided Lance   4D
Long Hafted Spiked Mace    4D
War Spear   4D
Long Axe    4D
Long Bardiche    4D
Svaerdstav   4D
Long Hafted Blade    4D
Light Glaive   4D
Long Morningstar   4D
Long War Axe    4D
Glaive    4D
Bec de Corbin   4D
Great Long Axe    4D
Arabian Axe   4D
Naginata   4D
Poleaxe    4D
German Poleaxe    4D
Elegant Poleaxe    4D
Scottish Halberd   4D
Long Maul   4D
Great Long Bardiche    4D
Long Poleaxe    4D
Boulder on a Stick   4D

2 directional polearms:
Trident    2D
Pitch Fork   2D
Bamboo Spear   2D
Military Fork   2D
Light Lance   2D
Arabian Light Lance   2D
Lance   2D
Arabian Lance   2D
Guisarme   2D
Battle Fork    2D
Long Voulge   2D
Ranseur   2D
Spetum   2D
Awlpike    2D
Corseque   2D
Long Awlpike    2D
Ashwood Pike   2D
Partisan   2D
Swiss Halberd    2D
English Bill    2D
Heavy Lance    2D
Arabian Heavy Lance    2D
Awlpoke   2D

1 directional polearms:
Pike   1D
Long Spear   1D

couching only polearms:
Jousting Lance    0
Great Lance    0
Colored Lances with Band   0
Long Great Lance   0



2h-1h/shield:
Practice Longsword
Persian War Axe
Goedendag,
Persian Battle Axe
Great Axe
Mace,
Bastard Sword,
Danish Bastard Sword
Heavy Bastard Sword,
French Longsword
Longsword
German Longsword
Estoc
Katana,
Morningstar,




Bonus against horses:
Bamboo Spear, Long Spear, Pike  +50% final damage
Throwing Lances  +30% final damage





Thanks to all who contributed their knowledge to the list.

If you find any mistake or anything missing please let me know.

Title: Re: Secondary Modes (help needed)
Post by: Algarn on February 11, 2014, 06:08:01 pm
You did forget a lot of weapons as 2d poles = Swiss halberd, english bill,  bamboo spear, military fork and battle fork long alwpike.

The fighting axe got 36 cut, and 96 speed as far I remember.

Only couchable weapons : great lance

1 direction weapon : long spear

I think there are more, but this is the essential.
Title: Re: Secondary Modes (help needed)
Post by: Utrakil on February 11, 2014, 06:27:51 pm
Thanks Algarn. Could you please check the fighting axe stats in your ingame inventory. I want to make shure all entries are right.

And everybody else: Please check your ingame inventory and post the missing secondary-mode-stats.
I am shure every new guy will apreciate this.
Title: Re: Secondary Modes & Attack Directions (help needed)
Post by: American_Werewolf on February 11, 2014, 07:38:37 pm
I will help with some poles later but for now I only have pitch fork the voulges and military scythe  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Secondary Modes & Attack Directions (help needed)
Post by: Rico on February 11, 2014, 08:26:35 pm
Quote
Langes Messer: 2h - 34c - 35p - 100 speed
It's 25p, not 35 =D

Are you interested in the stats of loomed versions as well?
Title: Re: Secondary Modes & Attack Directions (help needed)
Post by: Utrakil on February 11, 2014, 08:36:16 pm
Thanks!  :oops: edited to 25p
Let's try to collect the standard versions.
I think the stats in secondary mode get the same loom-bonus as the primary mode.
If not share your info please.
Title: Re: Secondary Modes & Attack Directions (help needed)
Post by: Rico on February 11, 2014, 08:47:03 pm
I got an Estoc +3, it has 100 speed, 28c and 34p in polearm mode.

When loomed from +0 to +3, it gets +2c and +2p and +1 speed in the first mode. If the same is true for secondary mode, the stars should be
99 speed 26c 32p.
Title: Re: Secondary Modes & Attack Directions (help needed)
Post by: Utrakil on February 11, 2014, 09:02:57 pm
I am not absolutely shure if my assumption is right.
So I take these numbers and hope for a confirmation for the unloomed estoc stats.
Title: Re: Secondary Modes & Attack Directions (help needed)
Post by: 722_ on February 11, 2014, 11:49:44 pm

Bastard Sword: pole - 29c - 28p 99 speed
Heavy Great Sword: pole - 34c - 31p - 89 speed
Heavy Bastard Sword: pole - 30c -30p - 98 speed
Sword of War: pole - 34c - 30p - 91 speed
Danish Greatsword: pole - 37c - 29p - 90 speed
Title: Re: Secondary Modes & Attack Directions (help needed)
Post by: Utrakil on February 14, 2014, 05:39:56 pm
Hey everybody the list is still incomplete.
Go check your ingame inventory and post stats!!!!
please

Still needed:
fighting Axe
steel pick
Persian War Axe:
Flambard:
Great Sword:
Highland Claymore:
Francisca:
Throwing Hammer:
Throwing Axe:
Heavy Throwing Axe:

I know this might take 5 minutes but go and do it.
Title: Re: Secondary Modes & Attack Directions (help needed)
Post by: Patoson on February 14, 2014, 06:08:58 pm

Also, at least for greatswords, when +3, the stat boosts are reverse - stab gets +3 damage but swing +2.
Title: Re: Secondary Modes & Attack Directions (help needed)
Post by: Utrakil on February 14, 2014, 07:11:44 pm
Thanks again to 722 and Patoson.
List seems to be complete.
The only numbers I would like to get confirmed are for the Estoc
So whoever has an Estoc please go and check.
Title: Re: List of Secondary Modes & Attack Directions
Post by: Patoson on February 14, 2014, 07:26:19 pm
Estoc:     26c, 32p, 99 speed.
Title: Re: List of Secondary Modes & Attack Directions
Post by: 722_ on February 16, 2014, 12:49:47 pm
highland claymore has 38c and 38p? is that a typo
Title: Re: List of Secondary Modes & Attack Directions
Post by: Patoson on February 16, 2014, 04:52:10 pm
Oops! It's 28p*  :mrgreen: Sorry!
Title: Re: List of Secondary Modes & Attack Directions
Post by: Utrakil on February 16, 2014, 04:59:53 pm
edited to 28p
Title: Re: List of Secondary Modes & Attack Directions
Post by: Utrakil on April 02, 2014, 03:50:59 pm
Updated Persian war axe according to patch 0.3.3.5
Title: Re: List of Secondary Modes & Attack Directions
Post by: Utrakil on June 02, 2014, 09:06:51 am
updated to patch 0.3.3.7
Title: Re: List of Secondary Modes & Attack Directions
Post by: Mr.K. on June 03, 2014, 11:50:37 am
German Poleaxe: 91spd, 30p swing
Elegant Poleaxe: 93spd, 29b swing
Title: Re: List of Secondary Modes & Attack Directions
Post by: Utrakil on July 20, 2014, 12:45:38 pm
nvm.
Title: Re: List of Secondary Modes & Attack Directions
Post by: Turkhammer on July 20, 2014, 06:34:43 pm
With reference to the list on page one can't the pike and long spear do over head strikes?  Wouldn't that make them 2 dimensional (stab and over head)?
Title: Re: List of Secondary Modes & Attack Directions
Post by: Switchtense on July 20, 2014, 06:42:46 pm
Trident is missing :o

Also Heavy Lance and Lance
Title: Re: List of Secondary Modes & Attack Directions
Post by: Rico on July 20, 2014, 06:43:29 pm
Quote from: Turkhammer on July 20, 2014, 06:34:43 pm
With reference to the list on page one can't the pike and long spear do over head strikes?  Wouldn't that make them 2 dimensional (stab and over head)?
Overheads on Pikes and Long Spears were removed a while ago :)
Title: Re: List of Secondary Modes & Attack Directions
Post by: Turkhammer on July 21, 2014, 01:44:22 am
Quote from: Panuru on July 20, 2014, 06:43:29 pm
Overheads on Pikes and Long Spears were removed a while ago :)

Hm, is Pike the same as Ashwood Pike?  I know Ashwood pike can do overhead.
Title: Re: List of Secondary Modes & Attack Directions
Post by: Switchtense on July 21, 2014, 08:47:52 am
Quote from: Turkhammer on July 21, 2014, 01:44:22 am
Hm, is Pike the same as Ashwood Pike?  I know Ashwood pike can do overhead.

Long Spear and Pike are poke only. In Native they are overhead, but this would be way too overpowered
Title: Re: List of Secondary Modes & Attack Directions
Post by: Utrakil on July 21, 2014, 03:36:04 pm
Quote from: Switchtense on July 20, 2014, 06:42:46 pm
Trident is missing :o

Also Heavy Lance and Lance
in what category do they belong??
trident 2dimensional?
Heavy Lance only couch??
Lance ??
Title: Re: List of Secondary Modes & Attack Directions
Post by: Moncho on July 21, 2014, 03:56:01 pm
Heavy Lance, lance and Trident are all 2 dimensional (stab and overhead)

Then there are a bunch of 3 dimensional weapons (missing stab), eg most 1h maces, military cleaver, scimitars, ... Making a more complete list of 1hers now, will edit. True the 0 pierce thing, the list I had so far is spoilered below, missing all the low tier ones.
(click to show/hide)

What about weapons that have various different attack animations? (eg 2h langes messer and shortened military scythe with polestab, flamberge, etc)
Title: Re: List of Secondary Modes & Attack Directions
Post by: Utrakil on July 21, 2014, 03:59:06 pm
no need to list the 1h without stab, because this information you get in the shoppage (thrust 0 pierce).
thanks for the info on the trident etc
Title: Re: List of Secondary Modes & Attack Directions
Post by: Utrakil on October 22, 2014, 10:02:40 pm
Updated to patch 0.4.0.0
please keep reporting wrong numbers and missing items.
Title: Re: List of Secondary Modes & Attack Directions
Post by: Utrakil on March 02, 2015, 02:20:07 pm
Updated to patch 0.4.1.1
If you want to help me keeping this up to date donations (weapons or gold) would help so I can buy all weapons with secondary mode instead of going through the patchfiles. Contact me for further details.
Title: Re: List of Secondary Modes & Attack Directions
Post by: Utrakil on July 01, 2015, 06:33:50 pm
Added executioner sword.
Title: Re: List of Secondary Modes & Attack Directions
Post by: Utrakil on January 14, 2016, 05:48:59 pm
Updated to patch 0.4.3.8
Thanks matt2507 for the list of pole attackdirections.