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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Nindur on May 16, 2011, 04:31:15 am
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I was browsing some native mods last night and I came across the additional admin action addon. Now most of the actions that this little mod brings to the table CRPG already has, things like Admin messages, Chat to admins, etc. The functions that really caught my eye were the Mute all, Kill player, and Freeze player functions, as well as a few others like swapping players to teams and automatic kick function for teamkillers. These tools would give admins functions that would make the game more enjoyable for everyone and to help admins deal with problems in a timely and more efficient manner.
You can see some of the details I am talking about : http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,141038.0.html
As one of the main admins for the NA servers, I have plugged countless hours watching over servers, seeing what works and what doesn't, and thinking about ways to improve how admins interact with players. It is no secret that the admins tools for CRPG and Mount and blade in general are lacking and inconvenient at best.
If you agree with me please Vote for this suggestion and if you hang our in IRC, Mention this thread to the devs!!!!
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the "kill player" option might be good for players who get stuck, or stuff like that.
Like a first warning (but still, they'll keep their multiplier if their team won) before kick / ban.
Edit : Agree with the TK autokick. Not set up too low, but 3-4 TK might not be accidents, and it might help players be more carefull.
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What I like about this is the auto-kick for team killers. If you could set a threshold for it, at least. One TK on a map can be an accident, 2 can be carelessness, but 3 is cause for concern.
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ya exactly implement go go go!!!!
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Obviously the functions like healing and spawning weapons and armor would not be added, only the functions that would help an admin keep the peace on a server
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What I like about this is the auto-kick for team killers. If you could set a threshold for it, at least. One TK on a map can be an accident, 2 can be carelessness, but 3 is cause for concern.
Yeah. This one time, I lanced a teammate to death, and killed two adjacent teammates by trampling them. Frankly I think it's an achievement in carelessness, worthy of sharing.
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the "kill player" option might be good for players who get stuck, or stuff like that.
Like a first warning (but still, they'll keep their multiplier if their team won) before kick / ban.
Edit : Agree with the TK autokick. Not set up too low, but 3-4 TK might not be accidents, and it might help players be more carefull.
Yes, with the kill player function I have specifically in mind people who get stuck, I know it is not hard to join spectator and then rejoin a team, but the amount of players unfamiliar with the game who have trouble with this would surprise you. With the kill function it would simply be a click of the button and then the player would be on their way again...in siege mode anyway!
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I've seen the Autokick feature work with great effect on the GK Siege server in Native, personally.
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Yeah ! Give admins more tools to Abooze ! :twisted:
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I would like to see these sort of things!
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Your poll options alone made me want to vote "no," despite the fact that I support these being implemented.
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I see alot of people do not like this idea, unless you state your opinion I can only assume you are a player that causes trouble or you just picked no to be a troll....
State your suggestions or some kind of feedback if you are going to answer no so I can tweak and alter my suggestion!
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I voted no for the same reasons as Seawied, and overall support this, mostly for the autokick for tks.
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Yes, with the kill player function I have specifically in mind people who get stuck, I know it is not hard to join spectator and then rejoin a team, but the amount of players unfamiliar with the game who have trouble with this would surprise you. With the kill function it would simply be a click of the button and then the player would be on their way again...in siege mode anyway!
When you got to spectator, then back to the team, don't you loose your multiplicator ? Will be better to just have a suicide key. For example you're stuck : suicide. You're the last one on your team, they still have 10 people, but you can't find them, only 5sec remaining, suicide. etc...
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A suicide key is something to consider......but it would also be easy to abuse....join a match with no gear, immediately suicide, get lots of gold and xp for free!
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Mass kick button please.
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Why give admins more tools? If they were good admins all they would ever need to use is mute and kick.
More tools equals more chances to abuse.
Focus on game balance. Who cares about admin tools.
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Why give admins more tools? If they were good admins all they would ever need to use is mute and kick.
More tools equals more chances to abuse.
Focus on game balance. Who cares about admin tools.
Good admins care about Admin tools. The better tools you give me, the better I can help a server. I do not know if you have served as an admin much for CRPG but the number of requests that I get to kill players who are stuck are countless. I know that you do not have a good relationship with more or less every single NA admin, but I dont have a problem with you if you follow the rules, and so I understand why you would think this idea should be scrapped. I am also aware that many players have had negative experiences with admins on the NA servers, I can deal with bad admins, but without the right tools it is much harder to deal with bad players.
Let me give you an example:
Player A tells me Player B is team killing them.
Bam! I freeze them both, take a look at the players, and lo and behold Player B is attacking player A! Player B gets kicked, problem solved!
Right now this is how it would go:
Player A says Player B is teamkilling
I say in Admin chat that teamkilling is not allowed, player B continues to teamwound Player A, I can do nothing because it takes to long to find them.
Here is another example:
On the siege server a player falls into a hole and is stuck. The player asks the admin to kill them, which an admin cannot do. The admin instructs the player to join spec and rejoin a team. The player barely speaks English and does not understand. The player stays in the hole and doesn't understand what is happening and an admin is forced to Kick him for leeching for sitting around for 7 minutes doing nothing.
With the kill command, an admin kills the player in 5 seconds and play continues with no misunderstanding.
Also, I don't think I need to discuss the benefits of an auto-kick function for teamkillers.
So what I am asking is for you to give the good admins better tools to make the servers you enjoy pleasant for everyone.
I will bring the hammer down on abusive admins. The server logs do not lie.
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Why give admins more tools? If they were good admins all they would ever need to use is mute and kick.
More tools equals more chances to abuse.
Focus on game balance. Who cares about admin tools.
What an ill-informed statement.
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More toys to play with ? Hell yeah !!! But only if they come in pink color !