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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Tovi on January 14, 2014, 12:07:30 pm

Title: Pino
Post by: Tovi on January 14, 2014, 12:07:30 pm
Here are some new armor (Pino) :

Banded Leather Armor :
(click to show/hide)

Broigne shirt with leather plate :
(click to show/hide)

Broigne shirt with metal discs:
(click to show/hide)

Broigne shirt with metal plates:
(click to show/hide)

Broigne shirt with studded leather:
(click to show/hide)

Broigne shirt with metal plates2 :
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Macle shirt :
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Mail shirt A :
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Mail shirt B:
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Padded leather :
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Pino
Post by: Nightmare798 on January 14, 2014, 12:12:44 pm
Quote from: Tovi on January 14, 2014, 12:07:30 pm
Here are some new armor (Pino) :

Banded Leather Armor :
(click to show/hide)

Broigne shirt with leather plate :
(click to show/hide)

Broigne shirt with metal discs:
(click to show/hide)

Broigne shirt with metal plates:
(click to show/hide)

Broigne shirt with studded leather:
(click to show/hide)

Broigne shirt with metal plates2 :
(click to show/hide)

Macle shirt :
(click to show/hide)

Mail shirt A :
(click to show/hide)

Mail shirt B:
(click to show/hide)

Padded leather :
(click to show/hide)

Any chance for some armors without skirts?
Title: Re: Pino
Post by: Tovi on January 14, 2014, 12:18:40 pm
Real men wear skirts !
Title: Re: Pino
Post by: Angantyr on January 14, 2014, 12:34:14 pm
Much of Pino's work is more LARP than Medieval.
Title: Re: Pino
Post by: Tovi on January 14, 2014, 01:08:08 pm
I don't see any differences...
Title: Re: Pino
Post by: Tzar on January 14, 2014, 04:14:59 pm
These are amazing  :!: :!: :!:
Title: Re: Pino
Post by: Angantyr on January 14, 2014, 07:31:30 pm
Quote from: Tovi on January 14, 2014, 01:08:08 pm
I don't see any differences...
I can understand why, it looks somewhat alike and you'll see fantasy armor in most popular culture. An quick indicator is that leather were very rarely used historically, padded cloth being a much superior fabric for protection.
Title: Re: Pino
Post by: Tovi on January 15, 2014, 02:18:21 pm
Leather was used from ancient times to middle age (Cuir Bouilli). And even by Samurais.
The french word cuirasse (shell) comes from cuir (leather). Plated metal came only after the 14th century. Before, it was mostly plated leather, or leather armors with some metal pieces (and chain mail, of course).
Broigne was very common before the 10th century.
So, what are you talking about ???
Title: Re: Pino
Post by: Angantyr on January 15, 2014, 05:25:24 pm
Leather was used yes, but as backing not as armor. Cuir Bouilli sources are sporadic at best (and usually renaissance and forward) and have not really been demonstrated to work effectively by experimental archaeology.

Ask any historical reenactor about the properties of leather compared to padded cloth against slashing - leather is among the worst fabrics you can wear for protection, but great for backing to protect against the gnaw of your armor, and if anything else it was used outside of the armor to protect against the elements - a raincoat.

Actually the only confirmed leather 'armor' in the archaeological record from the entire world is some kind of crocodile skin from Roman Egypt probably used more for ritualistic purposes than for warfare. I'll let you look for sources yourself, we've all been through this at one point, but I can assure you you can't find a single one, most leather armor theories stem from the 60s and have long been debunked. Not saying leather armor was never ever used (in the lack of other materials) but if it was in any way common you would think we had even a single surviving piece (especially as we have so many other leather finds like shoes and cords and such) or that it would have been mentioned even once in the historical record?

Try searching for leather armor on any search engine and only fantasy references show up. What is leather armor in Hollywood movies and role-playing games were usually made of linen, historically.
Title: Re: Pino
Post by: Tovi on January 15, 2014, 05:53:59 pm
Anyway, the back skin leather has a name : Broigne...
Title: Re: Pino
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on January 15, 2014, 06:05:41 pm
Can only see the first 2 pics :(

Dont do that to me...i wanna see it aswell plox :(((
Title: Re: Pino
Post by: Tovi on January 15, 2014, 06:21:33 pm
Mmmh, if someone else has your problem I will host them elsewhere.
Title: Re: Pino
Post by: Tovi on March 30, 2014, 07:52:44 pm
Waiting....
Title: Re: Pino
Post by: Nordwolf on March 31, 2014, 12:09:55 am
It's a long story brah
http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/new-armors-quality-spreadsheet/
Title: Re: Pino
Post by: Tovi on March 31, 2014, 07:24:36 pm
Teutonic plates are awesome !  :shock:
Title: Re: Pino
Post by: Tovi on May 03, 2014, 08:50:55 am
We need some Broignes for our RP in Strat !
Title: Re: Pino
Post by: Tovi on May 04, 2014, 12:30:00 am
For example this visitors can't see pics , please register or login
 would be perfect for our new frankish federation


Or this (Carolingian) : visitors can't see pics , please register or login