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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => The Chamber of Tears => Topic started by: LordBerenger on January 10, 2014, 07:34:06 pm

Title: I want a new title
Post by: LordBerenger on January 10, 2014, 07:34:06 pm
I'm tired of being a communist. Make my new title atleast a fascist or something new.
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Post by: the real god emperor on January 10, 2014, 07:57:37 pm
Everyone has a title  :cry:
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Post by: Molly on January 10, 2014, 08:00:25 pm
Skyrim in the lead for best ever?

Kids these days...  :cry:
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Post by: _Tamra_ on January 10, 2014, 08:05:41 pm
Actually weird how you don't have "Dragon Age: Origins" in that vote-list o:
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Post by: Nightmare798 on January 10, 2014, 08:08:50 pm
Actually weird how you don't have "Dragon Age: Origins" in that vote-list o:
that game is a bugged piece of overrated mess. Like seriously 2010 game using neverwinter nights engine? Bitch please...

EDIT: Also, where is final fantasy 7?
Title: Re: I want a new title
Post by: LordBerenger on January 10, 2014, 08:16:06 pm
Skyrim in the lead for best ever?

Kids these days...  :cry:

I voted Mass Effect 2 even though KOTOR 1 gives me an orgasm when playing
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Post by: Laufknoten on January 10, 2014, 08:18:05 pm
If you're into Star Wars, Kotor I and II. (Some say II sucks compared to I but I love them both.)
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Post by: Nightmare798 on January 10, 2014, 08:19:23 pm
If you're into Star Wars, Kotor I and II. (Some say II sucks compared to I but I love them both.)

The first one was awesome. 2nd one however...
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Post by: bavvoz on January 10, 2014, 08:23:52 pm
No fallout 2???
Title: Re: I want a new title
Post by: LordBerenger on January 10, 2014, 08:27:11 pm
The first one was awesome. 2nd one however...

2nd one was ok but storyline made the game feel not so open as it should've been compared to 1st one.

No fallout 2???


THIS THREAD IS JUST MADE FOR ME GETTING A NEW TITLE! Poll is a bonus!
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Post by: SanGliers_Manouck on January 10, 2014, 08:30:48 pm
Baldurs gate ftw
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Post by: Kafein on January 10, 2014, 08:36:19 pm
This thread is a mess
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on January 10, 2014, 08:37:08 pm
Baldurs gate ftw

Sure if you're talking about the action RPG that came out on the original Xbox.  Otherwise controlling a party in RPG games is a pain in the ass. 

The poll sucks, not even classic games like Sid Meiers Pirates! on the list?  No Counter-strike?  No Tom Clancy Rainbow Six?  No San Andreas?  No Warband?

**EDIT** Whoops, missed the "best RPG" part.

if that's the case, Ultima Online was the best RPG ever (yes it was an MMO RPG).  This was before about the year 2001 though, after pub 16 it went to shit (it was getting bad up til that point too). 
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Post by: Nightmare798 on January 10, 2014, 08:38:10 pm
This thread is a mess

Agreed. How do you create a "best RPG ever" poll without adding final fantasy 7?
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Post by: POOPHAMMER on January 10, 2014, 08:44:31 pm
voted call of duty for best RPG i love rocket propelled grenades none of these other games have them this poll sucks
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Post by: Heibai on January 10, 2014, 08:47:20 pm
Best RPG in the list (!) is Morrowind for me.

After that, probably Witcher 2, Skyrim..

Dark souls is fun but too few rpg features to count it as a real rpg imo.
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Post by: LordBerenger on January 10, 2014, 08:53:20 pm
voted call of duty for best RPG i love rocket propelled grenades none of these other games have them this poll sucks

Allahu Akbar
Title: Re: I want a new title
Post by: Clockworkkiller on January 10, 2014, 08:55:32 pm
Fallout 1 & 2 hands down, /thread

Also no deus ex?
Title: Re: I want a new title
Post by: LordBerenger on January 10, 2014, 09:10:03 pm
Fallout 1 & 2 hands down, /thread

Also no deus ex?

FUCK...now you gave me some epic shame for not including my best game ever....
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Post by: tisjester on January 10, 2014, 09:24:43 pm
Why no fallout 3? That's the best one. This poll has been tampered with.
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Post by: Tovi on January 10, 2014, 09:34:49 pm
Dungeon Master !
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Post by: Miwiw on January 10, 2014, 09:36:20 pm
Enjoyed Morrowind most of Elder Scrolls games, though it was the first I played. The games before that were nice too, just played them afterwards. Oblivion was fine too but some pretty nice mess, Skyrim is a bit weird but enjoyable too. Waiting for Elder Scrolls Online for sure. Hope they won't fuck it up!
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Post by: Clockworkkiller on January 10, 2014, 09:37:58 pm
Why no fallout 3? That's the best one. This poll has been tampered with.

Wat
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Post by: Tore on January 10, 2014, 09:45:03 pm
fallout 3 best

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Post by: Scervo on January 10, 2014, 10:33:16 pm
Of the ones on this list, Dark Souls & Witcher 2.

I haven't actually played the KOTOR games so I can't really say much about those, the Elder Scrolls games seem kinda boring to me (they start decent but get dull quickly), fallout is fun but similar to skyrim in that I can't get through the entire story without getting bored of the repetitive gameplay.

 I have both of the Mass Effect games as well as the most recent Deus Ex game but have yet to play any of them.

Borderlands should probs be on this list too
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Post by: Akynos on January 10, 2014, 11:35:25 pm
Waiting for Elder Scrolls Online for sure. Hope they won't fuck it up!

Downloading the Beta right now ! Hope it'll be nice
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Post by: Macropus on January 10, 2014, 11:57:51 pm
Never played any of the games listed in the poll.
*WIN*
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Post by: StonedSteel on January 11, 2014, 12:09:27 am
Ultima Underworld: The Stygian Abyss :shock:

GOML 8-)
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Post by: Grumbs on January 11, 2014, 12:26:59 am
My top RPGs are probably:

Planescape: Torment
Baldur's Gate 2
Fallout 1/2
Dragon Age: Origins
Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines
Morrowind
Final Fantasy 7 and 9
Fallout: New Vegas
Title: Re: I want a new title
Post by: Macbeth3 on January 11, 2014, 12:34:09 am
Darn, I saw the skyrim option and I was like: Why no oblivion or morrowing in there?! (I didn't care for the other options) So i tagged Skyrim, then realising the other TES games were higher up in the poll xD

But to be honest, I would have selected all TES's if I could.
ME2 and Witcher 2 also get honorable mentions.
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Post by: LordBerenger on January 11, 2014, 02:21:54 am
Keep in mind what this thread really is about. Getting yours truly a new title! Pronto!
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Post by: karasu on January 11, 2014, 02:28:16 am
That poll.... really, an RPG poll without Wasteland, Planescape: Torment or Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura? And people voting in Ass Defect 2?

What the actual fuck.
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Post by: Life on January 11, 2014, 02:29:40 am
where is world of warcraft?  :evil:
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Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on January 11, 2014, 02:30:21 am
Out of those listed probably Dark Souls. God, Skyrim was such a disappointment.
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Post by: Rebelyell on January 11, 2014, 02:32:26 am
no skyrim?
good without mods suckrim suck balls


it is not like content is bad, i think it have the best open action rpg world out there but balance, dificult and that shitty world scaling is just straight bad, perks and unbalanced op skill trees are reason to


my list goes for
deus ex series
dragon age(fuck broken second one)
morrowind
gothic 1 and 2
Ice Wind dale 2
ME2
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Post by: Duster on January 11, 2014, 02:33:02 am
No FF7, shit poll.
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Post by: iDazedi on January 11, 2014, 02:44:17 am
Mass Effect 2 has more votes than both Kotors combined? the fuck
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Post by: Utrakil on January 11, 2014, 02:44:42 am
Your poll is invalid without Gothic I and II.
Had to vote for deus ex.
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Post by: Clockworkkiller on January 11, 2014, 03:09:17 am
FF6 > FF7

Also no

Chrono trigger
Fable 1 & 2
Arx fatalis
Jade empire
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Post by: //saxon on January 11, 2014, 03:31:32 am
where is Fallout 3!
Title: Re: I want a new title
Post by: Osiris on January 11, 2014, 03:36:25 am
Diablo 2!
Title: Re: I want a new title
Post by: tisjester on January 11, 2014, 03:41:00 am
Diablo 2!

Actually yes, this x1000
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Post by: Tydeus on January 11, 2014, 04:43:07 am
At least Deus Ex is #1, that's respectable.
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Post by: SP1N on January 11, 2014, 04:43:20 am
>no final fantasy vii
>ishygddt

(deus ex is phenomenal though)
Title: Re: I want a new title
Post by: Clockworkkiller on January 11, 2014, 04:45:02 am
where is Fallout 3!


Ffs pleas don't mention this pile of cow shit anymore
Even if your joking.
Title: Re: I want a new title
Post by: Tydeus on January 11, 2014, 05:01:50 am
Clearly the poll should be for "Western RPGs" as JRPGs aren't included(Aside from DS). Also, as Karasu mentioned, why isn't Planescape: Torment up there? P:T's dialogue alone should be enough to warrant a spot on that list.
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Post by: Taser on January 11, 2014, 05:05:21 am
FF6 > FF7

Also no

Chrono trigger
Fable 1 & 2
Arx fatalis
Jade empire

Fable 2? ew

Fable 1 was awesome though. Jade empire though.. man that's a blast from the past. Never played chrono trigger though.
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Post by: Dach on January 11, 2014, 07:12:07 am
Where's FF6? Where's BG?!  :shock:

Shit poll!!!  :mad:
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Post by: Latvian on January 11, 2014, 08:45:02 am
i voted Dark Souls because it is awesome game, but i think Deus Ex is real winer here,just remember how epic it was for its time.
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Post by: Molly on January 11, 2014, 09:52:03 am
Berenger's new title: Crappy Poll Creator!

Also... omg omg omg I forgot about Vampires Masquerade: Bloodlines! :cry:

Worst buggiest piece of game software ever on release but hell, it is one awesome rpg. I so wish someone would do a new one... :(
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Post by: the real god emperor on January 11, 2014, 09:55:50 am
Morrowind, obviously.
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Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on January 11, 2014, 12:49:05 pm
Icewind Dale!
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Post by: //saxon on January 11, 2014, 12:49:43 pm
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Post by: Nightmare798 on January 11, 2014, 01:08:14 pm
FF6 > FF7


Hipster!
Title: Re: I want a new title
Post by: Brrrak on January 11, 2014, 01:20:01 pm
Seeing a severe lack of 'Planescape: Torment", "Baldur's Gate", and V:TM-B.
Title: Re: I want a new title
Post by: LordBerenger on January 11, 2014, 01:35:15 pm
At least Deus Ex is #1, that's respectable.

Actually fgts had voted for Skyrim, Dark Souls and Morrowind as best RPG so i changed votes so KOTOR 1, Mass Effect 2 and Deus Ex got most votes.

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Also gimme a title
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Post by: Leshma on January 11, 2014, 01:40:30 pm
You're not cRPG player, no title for you :P
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Post by: Tydeus on January 11, 2014, 02:52:56 pm
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+1, best crpg poll guy. Changing polls to properly reflect what SHOULD be.

10/10 would participate again.
Title: Re: I want a new title
Post by: LordBerenger on January 11, 2014, 06:10:59 pm
You're not cRPG player, no title for you :P

I deserve a title because i am who i am.
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Post by: Grumbs on January 11, 2014, 06:14:33 pm
Anyone who asks for a title shouldn't get one. Maybe you should have no title?
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Post by: Osiris on January 11, 2014, 06:27:55 pm
I spent most time on Diablo 2! not on poll so i guess oblivion and kotor were fun :D
Title: Re: I want a new title
Post by: LordBerenger on January 11, 2014, 06:30:59 pm
Anyone who asks for a title shouldn't get one. Maybe you should have no title?

Q-Q-V
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Post by: EyeBeat on January 11, 2014, 06:34:45 pm
Elder Scrolls Daggerfall = best out of all of them.
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Post by: Kafein on January 11, 2014, 06:35:14 pm
+1, best crpg poll guy. Changing polls to properly reflect what SHOULD be.

10/10 would participate again.

Still more fair than simple majority voting
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Post by: EyeBeat on January 11, 2014, 06:39:11 pm
Clearly the poll should be for "Western RPGs" as JRPGs aren't included

JRPGs?

My favorites:

Xenoblade Chronicles Wii
Uncharted Waters New Horizons SNES
Final Fantasy IV SNES
Romance of the Three Kingdoms X PS2
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Post by: musketer on January 11, 2014, 07:09:30 pm
And where is Fallout 3?  :|
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Post by: Nightmare798 on January 11, 2014, 08:22:12 pm
The last remnant definitelly. While story is not that strong, the combat system, difficulty and crafting beat everything bad about this game.
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Post by: StonedSteel on January 12, 2014, 12:48:17 am
OHHHHHHHH

Diablo 2 how could u have missed that?!?!?!

i spent so much time on that bloody game, i had to break the disc to walkaway

yup...one of those
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Post by: LordBerenger on January 12, 2014, 02:17:52 am
Yes! Atleast they removed that horrible cyrillic crap under my name. Really made it look so unfitting. So thanks even if you didn't give me a new title.
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Post by: Osiris on January 12, 2014, 03:03:00 am
Worst ex templol ever! even worse than hardness!   ;)
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Post by: Battlepriest on January 12, 2014, 03:05:04 am
morrowang
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Post by: Brrrak on January 12, 2014, 03:17:55 am
Still waiting on that Planescape, Baldur's Gate, and Vampire...
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Post by: LordBerenger on January 12, 2014, 03:20:01 am
Worst ex templol ever! even worse than hardness!   ;)

Annoying Bandits
Templar Knights
Kapikulu
Couple of personal clans with few members in them
Menstral Monsoon
LLJK
BIRD Clan
SemenStorm
Ruff Ryders


Su many clans
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Post by: Adamar on January 12, 2014, 04:54:25 am
Fuck those futuristic games. Without DAO Skyrim takes the lead.
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Post by: En_Dotter on January 12, 2014, 06:02:51 am
You forgot Baldur's Gate series. I mean when u put Fallout and KOTOR you should have Baldur as well man. Anyway Fallout 2 (with expansion) is da bestest of the best.
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Post by: Ninja_Khorin on January 12, 2014, 10:40:44 am
You missed Icewind Dale, Baldur's Gate, Planescape Torment, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Gothic series, Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura and if people insist on adding Diablo-like games as RPG's, then you also missed those along with Nox, Path of Exile, Torchlight series, Divinity series, Titan Quest series and Sacred series.

Frankly, I find this thread insulting to the core, sir!

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Post by: ArysOakheart on January 12, 2014, 11:27:38 am
Not to mention the original poll was edited and it changed the votes. I voted for KOTOR 1 and now it says dark souls? never played that shit. (new vegas had way more than 5 votes)

Shit poll, fuck you Berenger.
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Post by: Osiris on January 12, 2014, 01:41:38 pm
You missed Icewind Dale, Baldur's Gate, Planescape Torment, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Gothic series, Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura and if people insist on adding Diablo-like games as RPG's, then you also missed those along with Nox, Path of Exile, Torchlight series, Divinity series, Titan Quest series and Sacred series.

Frankly, I find this thread insulting to the core, sir!

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how is diablo 2 not an rpg? what for you is an rpg?
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Post by: Hecur on January 12, 2014, 01:50:34 pm
missing gothic
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Post by: LordBerenger on January 12, 2014, 02:05:47 pm
Unleash your inner nerd
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Post by: Bulzur on January 12, 2014, 02:45:00 pm
how is diablo 2 not an rpg? what for you is an rpg?

Something that is not an Hack and Slash ?
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Post by: Ninja_Khorin on January 12, 2014, 02:59:44 pm
how is diablo 2 not an rpg? what for you is an rpg?

Well, I can't really deny that it's an RPG, but it's the bare minimum of what I'd consider an RPG, which is why I generally ignore them in these questions. About as much of an RPG as Borderlands. Your actions impact little how the story unfolds leading to few opportunities to actually roleplay. Each sequel focuses more and more on the levelling and looting aspects which are somehow considered to be roleplaying. Which they indeed can be a part of, but not necessarily so. Dialogue exists only to give you the next mission where you're supposed to go an kill people or other random creatures.

Everything is solved by killing, there is no opportunity to pickpocket, lockpick, very little stealth in general. Diplomatic skills like intimidation, persuasion and such are also lacking. Path of Exile is the same. The emphasis on story, for example in Path of Exile is only slightly higher than the story in World of Warcraft. Not sure how it gets later, but I've gotten to level 25 in that game, and I found myself killing stuff constantly for random reasons I stopped caring about around level 17, because the excuses were pretty thinly disguised. Very similar to what happened in WoW.

It's the Action RPG genre in a nutshell. With a heavy emphasis on the action part. Still, they're generally accepted to be RPG's, hence the name, so I can't really be bothered to argue the point that they're not. However, what I'd consider to be the best RPG's are RPG's that allow for RPing something else than a killing machine while keeping the killing machine part fun.

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Post by: zagibu on January 12, 2014, 03:06:39 pm
For me, a game is an RPG when you can actually play different roles, and the story adapts based on the role you play. This isn't the case in e.g. Diablo or Bioshock, why I don't consider them to be RPGs.
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Post by: Casimir on January 12, 2014, 03:10:36 pm
Lol new titles = no title?
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Post by: sF_Guardian on January 12, 2014, 03:32:51 pm
LordBoringer
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Post by: Kafein on January 12, 2014, 10:01:13 pm
For me, a game is an RPG when you can actually play different roles, and the story adapts based on the role you play. This isn't the case in e.g. Diablo or Bioshock, why I don't consider them to be RPGs.

Sometimes you can really easily roleplay something in games that are not supposed to be RPGs. For example in strategy games I tend to play in a way that fits history or following a theme (like super catholic and HRE centric Austria in europa universalis)
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Post by: Nightmare798 on January 13, 2014, 03:51:01 pm
Something that is not an Hack and Slash ?

Diablo is not a hack and slash, is just doesnt have auto attack. Add aa to diablo and it is as much rpg as other any other.

Edit: besides, Gothic series can also be considered hack and slash (In G3 this is actually all you do) yet the generar consensus is that it is an RPG.
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Post by: Brrrak on January 14, 2014, 02:20:44 am
Berenger...

just fucking add some good games already.
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Post by: LordBerenger on January 14, 2014, 04:55:30 am
Berenger...

just fucking add some good games already.

I dont swing the gay Diablo, Gothic and those games way
Title: Re: I want a new title
Post by: San on January 14, 2014, 07:17:40 am
The legacy of JRPGs on the genre forever binded it with character customization/leveling/stats, simple as that. Some of you guys have really high standards. While some people would barely call Diablo 2 an RPG, I would barely call Mass Effect 2 one.

From what I hear, Planescape: Torment is the most well regarded WRPG.
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Post by: Ronin on January 14, 2014, 11:38:33 am
This thread made me want to look into older games. I'm thinking of buying Baldurs Gate II: Enchanced edition. I also saw Baldur's Gate I: Enhanced edition too. Do you recommend both, or only the second game?
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on January 14, 2014, 07:52:18 pm
The legacy of JRPGs on the genre forever binded it with character customization/leveling/stats, simple as that. Some of you guys have really high standards. While some people would barely call Diablo 2 an RPG, I would barely call Mass Effect 2 one.

From what I hear, Planescape: Torment is the most well regarded WRPG.

Speaking of JRPGs: Dragon Warrior (for NES) was way better than the Final Fantasy games.  Controlling 1 character is better than controlling a party.  I remember my game coming with this sweet map too:

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Title: Re: I want a new title
Post by: Grumbs on January 14, 2014, 08:03:17 pm
This thread made me want to look into older games. I'm thinking of buying Baldurs Gate II: Enchanced edition. I also saw Baldur's Gate I: Enhanced edition too. Do you recommend both, or only the second game?

I would jump straight to the second game personally. The first is more dated and linear IIRC and don't think the story was as good

If you want more focus on story and dialogue then get Planescape: Torment. BG2 is more action and fighting but still has a decent story and options for what to do
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on January 14, 2014, 08:12:28 pm
BG: Dark Alliance and BG: Dark Alliance 2 (for xbox) was way better than the old school BG games for PC. 
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Post by: Angantyr on January 14, 2014, 08:21:53 pm
Planescape: Torment. On my first playthrough now (with high res patch), the writing is incredible.
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Post by: LordBerenger on January 14, 2014, 09:45:07 pm
If u dont stop talking about nerdy old RPG games i will close threddd
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Post by: Shaksie on February 01, 2014, 01:38:29 pm
Berenger I hate you for this poll.
Please put in Fable: lost chapters.
Although then I will have more options; it's down to Mass Effect 1, KOTOR 1 and Fable, Witcher 2 is probably next.

Valid response I swear.