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Title: Melee only?
Post by: Ego_HRE on January 07, 2014, 04:59:43 pm
Do you think we need a melee only server :?:

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Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: BASNAK on January 07, 2014, 05:03:14 pm
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Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: 722_ on January 07, 2014, 05:04:52 pm
it would be nice, if there are regular players at least. would hate to see it constantly empty
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Hecur on January 07, 2014, 05:05:52 pm
only if there is double xp forever
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Man of Steel on January 07, 2014, 05:11:48 pm
Fuck Yeah PlEASE
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Boerenlater on January 07, 2014, 05:12:55 pm
Get a shield and stop whining about ranged.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: NuberT on January 07, 2014, 05:13:12 pm
24/7 native arena plz :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: musketer on January 07, 2014, 05:13:23 pm
YES PLEASE!
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Kafein on January 07, 2014, 05:14:13 pm
Make EU2 melee only
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Man of Steel on January 07, 2014, 05:15:09 pm
When will it  be up ?  :D
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: musketer on January 07, 2014, 05:15:28 pm
Make EU2 melee only

No.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Ego_HRE on January 07, 2014, 05:17:33 pm
When will it  be up ?  :D

In a few days :wink:
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Ego_HRE on January 07, 2014, 05:18:24 pm
Would cav still be allowed?

not sure atm.

sry 4 double post -.-
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Ego_HRE on January 07, 2014, 05:22:13 pm
'Melee Only' to me would mean no Cav, but that's just my opinion.

also my opinion
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Man of Steel on January 07, 2014, 05:22:57 pm
Ort just a Limit maybe 2 Cavs and  2 ranged in every Team for example.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: //saxon on January 07, 2014, 05:27:02 pm
if its going to be a melee only server, you might want to think about small maps, like EU_4 maps.

i remember one map on EU_4 it was a small tavern with an upper floor, good melee map very fast paced
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Torben on January 07, 2014, 05:27:53 pm
no cav ofc,  just like the old nords melee only server
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: musketer on January 07, 2014, 05:29:31 pm
Also, not a high amount of slots, a maximum of 40 players would be enough.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: BlueKnight on January 07, 2014, 05:32:50 pm
no cav ofc,  just like the old nords melee only server

Wasn't melee only if I remember properly. There was any form of bundle of sticksry & horse-ranged forbidden though.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Strudog on January 07, 2014, 05:33:08 pm
involve cav, otherwise its just 2h heroes against 2h heroes, melee server needs diversity, thats why it wasnt played on last time, just make it like battle without the shitty projectiles.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: BASNAK on January 07, 2014, 05:36:31 pm
involve cav, otherwise its just 2h heroes against 2h heroes, melee server needs diversity, thats why it wasnt played on last time, just make it like battle without the shitty projectiles.

I think that can be solved by allowing all melee weapons including longspears instead. Having cav in very small maps wouldn't really work out and we should reserve the feeling of being onehit by 2h cav to the battle servers.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: //saxon on January 07, 2014, 06:31:06 pm
Wasn't melee only if I remember properly. There was any form of bundle of sticksry & horse-ranged forbidden though.
if anyone joined with an cav character especially horse ranged they got banned. no chances, no forgiveness.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Osiris on January 07, 2014, 06:36:56 pm
im pretty sure you could play cav and even horse thrower :D it was just HA and HX which were banned.


But a melee server would be nice, probably see a fair few pikes :D
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Radament on January 07, 2014, 07:26:18 pm
In a few days :wink:
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Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Arthur_ on January 07, 2014, 07:40:22 pm
are you gonna make the HRE DTV to HRE melee or keep both?
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Strudog on January 07, 2014, 07:50:26 pm
Many of you didn't get what i said, 2h vs 2h was an exaggeration, but it did feel like that when the last melee server was up, when i mean add cav, of course 1h, pole and all that would be involved, its just ludicrous to think i just want 2h vs 2h.

I play pole myself
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: witchhunter on January 07, 2014, 07:58:59 pm
are you gonna make the HRE DTV to HRE melee or keep both?

only one of the HRE servers is connected to the database, so it does not really make sense to keep both.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Riddaren on January 07, 2014, 08:02:36 pm
It's important to not disallow any melee weapons imo.
Crushthrough weapons and spears/pikes should be allowed or else it will be like Strudog said; "2h vs 2h duel server".

Whether to allow melee cavalry or not is another question.
Without ranged, cavalry becomes much more powerful.
On the other infantry doesn't have to worry about ranged either so it will be easier to be aware of all horsemen.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Andswaru on January 07, 2014, 08:17:01 pm
im pretty sure you could play cav and even horse thrower :D it was just HA and HX which were banned.


But a melee server would be nice, probably see a fair few pikes :D

Horse thrower was allowed because they were rare and special/usless at the time before throwing got its buff. And it was "forbidden" to pick ammo back up. ALL forms of melee including cav were allowed tho.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Torben on January 07, 2014, 08:43:22 pm
again:  imo melee only,  just like the name says.  no ranged,  no cav.  I have only fond memories of it,  didnt know it had popularity issues though...
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Rogue on January 08, 2014, 12:18:50 am
It's up. For now without cav and native maps only. Map cycle will be changed once Failps provides the EU4 map cycle. If Cav will be allowed depends on public demand and if it proves too bothersome to enforce this (which it probably will). Slots are at 120 for now.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on January 08, 2014, 12:30:02 am
Rogue you sexy german beast.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Sniger on January 08, 2014, 12:57:54 am
it will still be gangbang fest. if not by range, then by stacking or cav or mob of angry lvl 36s
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: 722_ on January 08, 2014, 01:01:45 am
no cav please
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Muunilinst on January 08, 2014, 01:04:49 am
i hope every melee player will only play now there, and eu 1 is ranged only haha.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Perverz on January 08, 2014, 01:18:13 am
enjoyed last 1 hour
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Kafein on January 08, 2014, 01:35:28 am
Please change the gamemode to siege
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: STR_aD_Sargon_eqv on January 08, 2014, 11:32:44 am
ye we need another server. NO RANGE WEAPON SERVER.

also they should get back EU4 for trolls scums and other 2 bit punks, it's clean up EU1 and save our nerveus !  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Strudog on January 08, 2014, 11:48:15 am
will be definitely trying this out tonight, so long gay ranged boys
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Leshma on January 08, 2014, 03:17:58 pm
EU1 still have way more players than this server. Maybe that will change in the evening. Dunno, seems like a waste of server to me. But better than HRE_DTV. Real deal would be to setup Rageball server.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Tore on January 08, 2014, 03:19:02 pm
no cav pls
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Razzer on January 08, 2014, 04:12:17 pm
Have you got all the Native Arena Maps too?  :shock:
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Byrdi on January 08, 2014, 04:16:56 pm
I would rather see somthing to take EU_4's spot.

We have had Melee only servers before, but they turn out to be very boring. Because it is just one big gank fight with no depth to it :(
On the other had a 24 player max server would make wonders for my (and a lot of other people's) cRPG experience.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Teeth on January 08, 2014, 04:20:23 pm
Should be renamed to gank only. As I expected individual blocking skill ensures that battles get decided by whoever brings the most teammates and abuses the most stabs to finish people quickly. My prognosis is that the meta-game will move towards 9-10 athlethic builds very quickly, because people will try to escape getting ganked.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Kafein on January 08, 2014, 04:23:00 pm
Should be renamed to gank only. As I expected individual blocking skill ensures that battles get decided by whoever brings the most teammates and abuses the most stabs to finish people quickly. My prognosis is that the meta-game will move towards 9-10 athlethic builds very quickly, because people will try to escape getting ganked.

That's only because it's battle :P
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: JasonPastman on January 08, 2014, 04:41:29 pm
+1
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: no_rules_just_play on January 08, 2014, 04:46:21 pm
Great ego:D that's what I call cathalysing a process :)
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Strudog on January 08, 2014, 05:55:20 pm
Should be renamed to gank only. As I expected individual blocking skill ensures that battles get decided by whoever brings the most teammates and abuses the most stabs to finish people quickly. My prognosis is that the meta-game will move towards 9-10 athlethic builds very quickly, because people will try to escape getting ganked.

Well stop ramboing with your pike and bring your teammates along
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Kafein on January 08, 2014, 06:15:14 pm
Great ego:D that's what I call cathalysing a process :)

Studied chemistry much ?
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: darmaster on January 08, 2014, 06:41:13 pm
Could you please not allow duels at the end of the round at all? It's a big issue to me
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Zhyang on January 08, 2014, 07:57:02 pm
was pretty funny to play there untill Eques Clan GTXted
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Andswaru on January 08, 2014, 08:06:36 pm
Could you please not allow duels at the end of the round at all? It's a big issue to me
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: musketer on January 08, 2014, 08:14:38 pm
The server just needs EU_4 maps and all happy.


And also to some low IQ'd users, this server isn't for people that is looking for huge battles, the average players of these type of servers must be between 10 and 20. This makes the battle a lot more personal and the fights are way more quickly and interesting than huge battles where everyone is running around like lost cows without any strategical action.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Rogue on January 08, 2014, 08:49:26 pm
Fips will look into the maps tomorrw, some old EU4 maps might no longer be in the game.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Radament on January 08, 2014, 08:53:46 pm
is donkey considered as cav? cause today i saw one guy riding donkey and trolling around...you know what i mean  :wink:

ps: thank you schizo for the support in every post i/we make  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: BASNAK on January 08, 2014, 09:44:23 pm
Played in the server today it was great fun. Can't believe that people cry about "ganks" in a battle server however. They should understand that running around thinking they're heroes won't win you the round, sticking with your team will. I dont mind an occasional final duel, but when it happens every round? No thanks. The duels stopped after some while tho.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Tindel on January 08, 2014, 09:54:54 pm
If you mean infantry only, then yes DO IT DO IT NOW
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Tore on January 08, 2014, 09:57:25 pm
is donkey considered as cav? cause today i saw one guy riding donkey and trolling around...you know what i mean  :wink:

ps: thank you schizo for the support in every post i/we make  :mrgreen:

if a post is upvoted by schizo, you know its a good post
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Juhanius on January 08, 2014, 10:07:38 pm
Only infantry with 1h and 2h weapons are allowed. No polearms! No shields either turtles are annoying. Now that I think of this more allow only two handed swords.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Macbeth3 on January 08, 2014, 10:08:07 pm
Do we "need" it? No, Not really.
Would it be fun to have? Definatly!
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Kafein on January 08, 2014, 10:12:32 pm
People that want to punish final duels are very sad inside and need to see a therapist
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Tindel on January 08, 2014, 10:17:11 pm
I just realized that its a battle server,  what the fuck.


fail
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Kafein on January 08, 2014, 10:20:49 pm
I just realized that its a battle server,  what the fuck.


fail

Change it to siege !
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Leshma on January 09, 2014, 12:22:27 am
It's mostly empty or with very few players. You need better marketing.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: NuberT on January 09, 2014, 12:55:28 am
I would ban people on donkeys without warning, but I cannot find the admin password in hre forums anymore :D!

Maps should only be small ones like native arena, since walking around is just a waste of time.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Lennu on January 09, 2014, 01:26:32 am
Hehe, server has mostly builds with 27 or more str and 70+ body armor, since they don't have to worry about dodging arrows or anything  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Hoppster on January 09, 2014, 03:36:25 am
Could you please not allow duels at the end of the round at all? It's a big issue to me

Maybe if u had some form of skill it wouldn't be such an issue for you?

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Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: darmaster on January 09, 2014, 07:18:09 am
Maybe if u had some form of skill it wouldn't be such an issue for you?

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Despite i rather suck at dueling, it wasn't much of a skill issue, more like a retardness issue
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Pestdoktor on January 09, 2014, 08:21:59 am
Maps should only be small ones like native arena, since walking around is just a waste of time.

Down by the River!
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Rogue on January 09, 2014, 06:32:41 pm
Old EU4 map cycle is in:

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Just post the names of maps that are too big and they will be removed
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: darmaster on January 09, 2014, 06:52:31 pm
the retardness i've seen today (GTX ofc always at the lead of such); again, please, PLEASE do not allow duels
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: BASNAK on January 09, 2014, 06:59:44 pm
the retardness i've seen today (GTX ofc always at the lead of such); again, please, PLEASE do not allow duels

No. The server should have only 1v1 and no ganking allowed. And to make sure no one interferes the 1v1, there should be some sort of system where you press F on your opponent to iniate the 1v1 battle. Then there should also be points for beating your opponent thats displayed on crpg.net. The server should also be called EU3. Then it would be a true melee-battle server. WHY DID NO ONE THINK OF THIS BEFORE?
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Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: _GTX_ on January 09, 2014, 07:02:04 pm
the retardness i've seen today (GTX ofc always at the lead of such); again, please, PLEASE do not allow duels

Darmaster it is a personal preference. Some people like the duels and some dont, when the last guy is standing. The one being retarded right now is you, since you fail to see this. You see your own opinion as the only thing that could possibly be right.

So even though you might not be able to understand this: I feel like it should be up to the people on the server/the people alive to decide, if they will allow duels or not.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Thovex on January 09, 2014, 07:07:14 pm
You don't have to oblige to the duel. He merely requests a duel, that shit even happened(happens?) in EU1 before with 80 people relying on your duel to win.

Was the same case with old Melee Only server...
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Miwiw on January 09, 2014, 07:13:08 pm
Ye, just say fck duel and shoot him... OH WAIT  :lol:
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: BASNAK on January 09, 2014, 07:40:30 pm
You don't have to oblige to the duel. He merely requests a duel, that shit even happened(happens?) in EU1 before with 80 people relying on your duel to win.

Was the same case with old Melee Only server...

"Merely requests a duel". I played Melee for about 3 hours today. About 90% of the rounds ended today with duels in the end. Some people even avoided battle and were hiding just to get duels. No one requested duels once they just happened and I guess most people just obliged because of fear of being called jerks.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Qoray on January 09, 2014, 07:41:48 pm
Thx HRE for this awesome server <3
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Thovex on January 09, 2014, 07:48:23 pm
"Merely requests a duel". I played Melee for about 3 hours today. About 90% of the rounds ended today with duels in the end. Some people even avoided battle and were hiding just to get duels. No one requested duels once they just happened and I guess most people just obliged because of fear of being called jerks.

Rly? I played for a hour straight and there has been no duel so far.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: ARN_ on January 09, 2014, 07:55:32 pm
"Merely requests a duel". I played Melee for about 3 hours today. About 90% of the rounds ended today with duels in the end. Some people even avoided battle and were hiding just to get duels. No one requested duels once they just happened and I guess most people just obliged because of fear of being called jerks.
We have duels because the guys who play on this kind of servers like it, it was the same on the old melee server and eu4. So way dose the community on these servers like duels, maybe cause they like fair fights more then a 5vs1 gank. For me duels are fun, and not only if I'm the one getting duels but also when I'm in the team granting duels. But of course one should never hide just to get duels, if that happens I see nothing wrong with ganking them.

Edit, if you want duel less fights go to eu1 or eu2 :P

Oh and btw thanls for the great server! :D

Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Kafein on January 09, 2014, 07:59:53 pm
"Merely requests a duel". I played Melee for about 3 hours today. About 90% of the rounds ended today with duels in the end. Some people even avoided battle and were hiding just to get duels. No one requested duels once they just happened and I guess most people just obliged because of fear of being called jerks.

"fear of being called jerks" lmao

Right now it's a personal choice. Don't go harassing people if they don't make the same choice as you.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: darmaster on January 09, 2014, 08:20:34 pm
You don't have to oblige to the duel. He merely requests a duel, that shit even happened(happens?) in EU1 before with 80 people relying on your duel to win.

Was the same case with old Melee Only server...

(Un)fortunately you weren't there when GTX went full mental (at his birth): he kept running away every time there were 2+ guys trying to attack him (fuck teamplay that's unfair) and when he was left alone asked for a duel.

Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Kafein on January 09, 2014, 08:29:08 pm
(Un)fortunately you weren't there when GTX went full mental (at his birth): he kept running away every time there were 2+ guys trying to attack him (fuck teamplay that's unfair) and when he was left alone asked for a duel.

And how is this an argument that duels should not be allowed ?
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: _GTX_ on January 09, 2014, 08:29:48 pm
(Un)fortunately you weren't there when GTX went full mental (at his birth): he kept running away every time there were 2+ guys trying to attack him (fuck teamplay that's unfair) and when he was left alone asked for a duel.

Are you intentionally playing dumb and missing the big picture to make your point? Just before i did that, someone else did it. That guy was called Cyber and for some reason he refused to fight me and kept running away from me, which delayed the round for ages and made everyone wait. So i was basicly making fun of Cyber's behaviour when i did that, it was a reference to it. If you actually saw how i did it, then you would notice that the only guy i was actually avoiding was Cyber, since he was the only one acting weird earlier. I went directly towards the other guy and fought him countless times.

Ontop of this i would like to see a screenshot of me asking for a duel when this happened, since i can't remember saying anything when that happened. I feel like this might just be you bullshitting again.

And how is this an argument that duels should not be allowed ?
I am not sure it is. So far it just seems like he wants to insult me instead, because that is the only consistent thing in his 2 posts so far. :lol:
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: ARN_ on January 09, 2014, 08:32:23 pm
(Un)fortunately you weren't there when GTX went full mental (at his birth): he kept running away every time there were 2+ guys trying to attack him (fuck teamplay that's unfair) and when he was left alone asked for a duel.
I was there and it was you clan mate Cyber who went retard. Gtx was given duels, but then Cyber tried to gank him so the other guy who dueld stooped fighting to let Gtx fight Cyber. Cyber did noting but running away and keeping up his shield(it broke and he was still just blocking). Gtx then got bored of chasing him and tried to fight some other guy, then Cyber tried to gank again, Gtx sarted chasing him again and so it repeated for some times. So why didn't everyone try to gank when Cyber was? Because they want duels! Why did Cyber keep running away when he had the chance to fight 1vs1? I have no freaking idea(okay maybe he's just is a pussy :lol:)
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Kafein on January 09, 2014, 08:33:02 pm
Nice, we managed to write 6 pages before drama

I was there and it was you clan mate Cyber who went retard. Gtx was given duels, but then Cyber tried to gank him so the other guy who dueld stooped fighting to let Gtx fight Cyber. Cyber did noting but running away and keeping up his shield(it broke and he was still just blocking). Gtx then got bored of chasing him and tried to fight some other guy, then Cyber tried to gank again, Gtx sarted chasing him again and so it repeated for some times. So why didn't everyone try to gank when Cyber was? Because they want duels! Why did Cyber keep running away when he had the chance to fight 1vs1? I have no freaking idea(okay maybe he's just is a pussy :lol:)

Knowing Cyber, he was probably trying to force GTX and the other guy into a ganking situation
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: darmaster on January 09, 2014, 08:38:32 pm
And how is this an argument that duels should not be allowed ?

There's a possibility that cunts could do this > we should prevent such thing

i'd also have other arguments like, hmm 20 people waiting "honorable" players that are dueling, people losing the multi just because someone is stupid, the fact that there's no sense in creating number superiority if in the end turds just waste this advantage; i think they're quite enough.

Are you intentionally playing dumb and missing the big picture to make your point? Just before i did that, someone else did it. That guy was called Cyber and for some reason he refused to fight me and kept running away from me, which delayed the round for ages and made everyone wait. So i was basicly making fun of Cyber's behaviour when i did that, it was a reference to it. If you actually saw how i did it, then you would notice that the only guy i was actually avoiding was Cyber, since he was the only one acting weird earlier. I went directly towards the other guy and fought him countless times.

Ontop of this i would like to see a screenshot of me asking for a duel when this happened, since i can't remember saying anything when that happened. I feel like this might just be you bullshitting again.
I am not sure it is. So far it just seems like he wants to insult me instead, because that is the only consistent thing in his 2 posts so far. :lol:

uhm no he did that after you kept running away for several rounds, first of all; secondly he wasn't delaying at all, you could have attacked the other teammates that were alive, but you were afraid to be "unfairly" ganked by him (which for sure would have happened). thirdly it was pretty much obvious you were just running away in order to get duels in the end.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Osiris on January 09, 2014, 08:43:23 pm
Are you intentionally playing dumb and missing the big picture to make your point? Just before i did that, someone else did it. That guy was called Cyber and for some reason he refused to fight me and kept running away from me, which delayed the round for ages and made everyone wait. So i was basicly making fun of Cyber's behaviour when i did that, it was a reference to it. If you actually saw how i did it, then you would notice that the only guy i was actually avoiding was Cyber, since he was the only one acting weird earlier. I went directly towards the other guy and fought him countless times.

Ontop of this i would like to see a screenshot of me asking for a duel when this happened, since i can't remember saying anything when that happened. I feel like this might just be you bullshitting again.
I am not sure it is. So far it just seems like he wants to insult me instead, because that is the only consistent thing in his 2 posts so far. :lol:


meh when i was there earlier you did it nearly every round :D ran away until you could find a 1 on 1. The server needs proper rules enforced because atm its a mash up of eu1 players who dislike ranged and eu4 players who want duels and to fuck around :P
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Tindel on January 09, 2014, 08:47:19 pm
That is what you get when you play without objectives and purpose.

Battle needs bombing sites and tnt just like counterstrike, or flags to take over or or or something....

Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Radament on January 09, 2014, 08:58:19 pm
That is what you get when you play without objectives and purpose.

Battle needs bombing sites and tnt just like counterstrike, or flags to take over or or or something....

hpw about make "rush" gamemode like bf3/4 where you need to conquest a place and when you captured the first , map changing to the second scene where you need to capture the second point? it's like the conquest mode chadz made before but easier to understand and without these girly duel stuff or ganking qq or wtfbbq.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Kafein on January 09, 2014, 09:26:21 pm
There's a possibility that cunts could do this > we should prevent such thing

That's your opinion


i'd also have other arguments like, hmm 20 people waiting "honorable" players that are dueling, people losing the multi just because someone is stupid, the fact that there's no sense in creating number superiority if in the end turds just waste this advantage; i think they're quite enough.

I'd take the fun of some friendly duels over a ganking victory any day.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: darmaster on January 09, 2014, 10:12:25 pm
That's your opinion


I'd take the fun of some friendly duels over a ganking victory any day.

so you think what GTX does (running away to get duels that give boner to his epeen) is ok?

sure thing about the second statement, except only 2 guys take the fun, the rest thinks PLAYING the game is quite more fun than these kind of duels
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: NuberT on January 09, 2014, 11:03:07 pm
maybe add a rule, that allows duels only with less than 10 players or something, that way both sides might be satisfied idk^^
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Kafein on January 09, 2014, 11:09:38 pm
so you think what GTX does (running away to get duels that give boner to his epeen) is ok?

No but in my opinion it it is not a sufficient reason for disallowing duel, just like car accidents do not warrant removing cars.

sure thing about the second statement, except only 2 guys take the fun, the rest thinks PLAYING the game is quite more fun than these kind of duels

Sure, watching other people duel is not necessarily that fun, but in my opinion playing gank only can get dull very fast too.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: darmaster on January 09, 2014, 11:36:08 pm
No but in my opinion it it is not a sufficient reason for disallowing duel, just like car accidents do not warrant removing cars.

Sure, watching other people duel is not necessarily that fun, but in my opinion playing gank only can get dull very fast too.

dunno i actually enjoy ganks more than backstabbing or dueling; anyway i stated more reasons to remove duels from battle server.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: _GTX_ on January 10, 2014, 03:20:37 pm
so you think what GTX does (running away to get duels that give boner to his epeen) is ok?

sure thing about the second statement, except only 2 guys take the fun, the rest thinks PLAYING the game is quite more fun than these kind of duels
That is what you think i do constantly, but you rly do not know. But you present it like you completely certain and have more than just a biased opinion behind it, since you clearly want to insult me. The insulting is basicly the only thing that goes again and again in all of your posts.

dunno i actually enjoy ganks more than backstabbing or dueling; anyway i stated more reasons to remove duels from battle server.
Backstabbing happens in a gank, not a duel. So why would you write:'' Enjoy ganks more than backstabbing''? It makes no sense. The backstabbing has nothing to do with duels, since backstabbing often means that you are attacked by multiple opponents = ganked.

Also remember that melee only and eu_1 are very different, even though they both have the battle gamemode. The atmosphere on melee only is completely different than the atmosphere on eu_1, and melee only also has a lot less players.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Sniger on January 10, 2014, 03:29:43 pm
it will still be gangbang fest. if not by range, then by stacking or cav or mob of angry lvl 36s

Should be renamed to gank only. As I expected individual blocking skill ensures that battles get decided by whoever brings the most teammates and abuses the most stabs to finish people quickly. My prognosis is that the meta-game will move towards 9-10 athlethic builds very quickly, because people will try to escape getting ganked.

 :lol:

banners kill balance
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: The_Pony_Spencki_and_Dana on January 10, 2014, 03:34:17 pm
not sure atm. SURE

sry 4 double post -.-

Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Sniger on January 10, 2014, 03:39:42 pm
Darmaster it is a personal preference. Some people like the duels and some dont, when the last guy is standing. The one being retarded right now is you, since you fail to see this. You see your own opinion as the only thing that could possibly be right.

So even though you might not be able to understand this: I feel like it should be up to the people on the server/the people alive to decide, if they will allow duels or not.

its a battle mode server. if you want to duel, there's a duel server. if no one on the duel-server, maybe its because no one wants to duel... frankly, complaining that people wont allow you to duel on a battle-mode server is silly.

try join a cs server and ask for pistols only and then become angry when people don't go pistols only  :lol:

edit: I now read this and it seems abit like im saying that GTX complained, im not, I simply agrees with him. the post is not directed to anyone in particular but just the mindset in general.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Fredom on January 10, 2014, 03:46:57 pm
I hate archers etc myself, but wouldn't melee only destroy the feeling of a middle-age game? Archers have been part of the middle-age... But I am for this server aswell^^
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: darmaster on January 10, 2014, 03:48:49 pm
That is what you think i do constantly, but you rly do not know. But you present it like you completely certain and have more than just a biased opinion behind it, since you clearly want to insult me. The insulting is basicly the only thing that goes again and again in all of your posts.
Backstabbing happens in a gank, not a duel. So why would you write:'' Enjoy ganks more than backstabbing''? It makes no sense. The backstabbing has nothing to do with duels, since backstabbing often means that you are attacked by multiple opponents = ganked.

Also remember that melee only and eu_1 are very different, even though they both have the battle gamemode. The atmosphere on melee only is completely different than the atmosphere on eu_1, and melee only also has a lot less players.

sorry but the whole time i was there you kept doing that, and in 3/4 years i think i got what kind of player you are. the insults come after what you did there, if you look carefully in other threads where i could have had easily insulted you for fair reasons, you'll see i never did so; i never linked backstabbing to duels, maybe i should explain once again what you kept doing the whole time you were on HRE's server:
the normal clash starts, you're never into it ofc, you're always alone trying to not get hit and to hit loners; seeing you alone, players with enough brain and teamplay sense try to gank you, and there starts a chasing; when they realize you keep running away some of them prefers help the others in the main clash, so they go back, but if you're lucky, there's still one guy trying to get you, and you turn around and start a fight with him; if the rest of your team has been killed, you start asking for your "fairly and well deserved" duel, which, i'm sorry, gets me on my fucking nerves and makes me want to insult you heavily. in other occasions you just backstab people focused on the clash, since you managed to kill the lone retard that was chasing you and got back from your long travel around the map.

yes i also thought that the atmosphere on melee would have been different, plenty of 2h heroes and duelers like you a.k.a. ret
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: _GTX_ on January 10, 2014, 04:06:03 pm
sorry but the whole time i was there you kept doing that, and in 3/4 years i think i got what kind of player you are. the insults come after what you did there, if you look carefully in other threads where i could have had easily insulted you for fair reasons, you'll see i never did so; i never linked backstabbing to duels, maybe i should explain once again what you kept doing the whole time you were on HRE's server:
the normal clash starts, you're never into it ofc, you're always alone trying to not get hit and to hit loners; seeing you alone, players with enough brain and teamplay sense try to gank you, and there starts a chasing; when they realize you keep running away some of them prefers help the others in the main clash, so they go back, but if you're lucky, there's still one guy trying to get you, and you turn around and start a fight with him; if the rest of your team has been killed, you start asking for your "fairly and well deserved" duel, which, i'm sorry, gets me on my fucking nerves and makes me want to insult you heavily. in other occasions you just backstab people focused on the clash, since you managed to kill the lone retard that was chasing you and got back from your long travel around the map.

yes i also thought that the atmosphere on melee would have been different, plenty of 2h heroes and duelers like you a.k.a. ret
Again... never fucked asked for them. You are saying so much bullshit just based on your opinion, and it is impossible to argue with a this strong opinion.

Ontop of this i would like to see a screenshot of me asking for a duel when this happened, since i can't remember saying anything when that happened. I feel like this might just be you bullshitting again.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Leshma on January 10, 2014, 04:08:12 pm
Best empty server 2014
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Osiris on January 10, 2014, 04:16:55 pm
well the two groups of people seem incompatible leshma :D

People who want to play like eu1 but without ranged rage because eu4fans and duelers want to mess around hug a lot or duel last man even if you lose.

People who want to play old EU4 style where they were all buddies who hugged and trolled and forced duels at the end rage because people attack them when they hug or don't let them duel.

Thus lots of arguments insults and flaming and both sides rage quit  :lol:

(with both sides trying to claim moral high ground by claiming its more fun than the other style and thus you should do it their way)
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Butan on January 10, 2014, 04:25:58 pm
3 suggestions :

- remove medium-big sized maps: the server is small, we need more maps to accomodate its size, even random map (medium) are far too big.
- decrease slots to 30-50: its useless to have slots up to 120, it discourages people from logging in if its 15/120 instead of 15/30-50, also it lags sometimes at 20% of its total capacity
- remove banner balance: big clans can easily stack with banner balance ON since the server is small, it discourage from playing, it will also force people to enjoy the melees, would encourage more fair fights since clanmates will fight between each others instead of steamrolling the opposite team to win at all cost.



I will play on this server a lot, I just hope more players trickle in, I'm sure they will if we give this server time and proper settings.


On duels/no duels:
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Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Osiris on January 10, 2014, 04:39:22 pm
Duels are touchy subject :D if 3 accept and 1-2 doesn't its quite common (or was on eu4) for those players to be th/tk :D
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: darmaster on January 10, 2014, 05:00:03 pm
Again... never fucked asked for them. You are saying so much bullshit just based on your opinion, and it is impossible to argue with a this strong opinion.

You didn't asked but you knew knew they'd have given you because they had your same line of thought; everyone was given duels, except that you gained them in a retarded way; when i entered the server everyone just stopped when last one was alive, until kay-something started to "gank" the last one, and you started saying "organisations wtf was that" or something like this and there me cyber and kay-something started insulting you and all duelers


I'd agree on giving duels at the end if it wasn't that I perfectly know dead people prefer playing rather than watching 2 people dueling and wasting their multi; some of them might have played the round to win, it is quite a shame that the number superiority they created gets wasted because the last guy alive in one team and his buddies in the other AGREED; lets show the thoughts of the dead players in the roster too and let's see if everyone agrees
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: _GTX_ on January 10, 2014, 05:10:22 pm
You didn't asked but you knew knew they'd have given you because they had your same line of thought; everyone was given duels, except that you gained them in a retarded way; when i entered the server everyone just stopped when last one was alive, until kay-something started to "gank" the last one, and you started saying "organisations wtf was that" or something like this and there me cyber and kay-something started insulting you and all duelers


I'd agree on giving duels at the end if it wasn't that I perfectly know dead people prefer playing rather than watching 2 people dueling and wasting their multi; some of them might have played the round to win, it is quite a shame that the number superiority they created gets wasted because the last guy alive in one team and his buddies in the other AGREED; lets show the thoughts of the dead players in the roster too and let's see if everyone agrees
you start asking for your "fairly and well deserved" duel, which, i'm sorry, gets me on my fucking nerves and makes me want to insult you heavily.
This is why i cant argue with something based 100% on your strong opinion of me.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: brockssn on January 10, 2014, 05:17:05 pm
The ones opposing this are the ones playing ranged because they know EVERYONE would be playing on this server instead. Lets face it, archers and cav are annoying and lame to die from. If you could rule this out the game would be much more enjoyable and this server would be much more populated.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Sniger on January 10, 2014, 05:20:57 pm
Best empty server 2014

still better than eu1  :P :lol:
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Tzar on January 10, 2014, 05:25:48 pm
involve cav, otherwise its just 2h heroes against 2h heroes, melee server needs diversity, thats why it wasnt played on last time, just make it like battle without the shitty projectiles.

+1

Why allow pikes, an not cav?

Anyways, no1 plays on the server...

Ban cav, pikes. an then u can start to have some nice fights. Pikes just ruins any good melee battle, everyone knows that DOH :!:
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Sniger on January 10, 2014, 05:35:18 pm
any class ruin a good battle if there is enough of them. DOH
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: the real god emperor on January 10, 2014, 05:36:24 pm


- remove medium-big sized maps: the server is small, we need more maps to accomodate its size, even random map (medium) are far too big.


^^ This.

If I would lose x5 on the server , and we d be playing on a random plain map, i wouldn't play the next round, but playing on ex. Native Arena , would me keep on the server cus its easy to reach the enemies and get a quick fight.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: darmaster on January 10, 2014, 05:47:58 pm
This is why i cant argue with something based 100% on your strong opinion of me.

The second time I responded you again it was like a "ok you didn't explicitly asked that because you didn't need to do that since everybody had your same line of thought", but I appreciate that you all you keep saying is "I never said that", while you're fine with your retarded behaviour and don't say anything about it
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Ego_HRE on January 10, 2014, 09:59:51 pm
3 suggestions :

- remove medium-big sized maps: the server is small, we need more maps to accomodate its size, even random map (medium) are far too big.
- decrease slots to 30-50: its useless to have slots up to 120, it discourages people from logging in if its 15/120 instead of 15/30-50, also it lags sometimes at 20% of its total capacity
- remove banner balance: big clans can easily stack with banner balance ON since the server is small, it discourage from playing, it will also force people to enjoy the melees, would encourage more fair fights since clanmates will fight between each others instead of steamrolling the opposite team to win at all cost.



I will play on this server a lot, I just hope more players trickle in, I'm sure they will if we give this server time and proper settings.


On duels/no duels:
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Point 1 and 2...i think we will work on it.
Point 3...i dont think so.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Leshma on January 10, 2014, 10:04:09 pm
Point 3...i dont think so.

One of the reasons why EU4 was so popular is lack of banner balance. But this is your server, you're entitled to enforce your own sub-set of rules.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Butan on January 10, 2014, 10:36:05 pm
One of the reasons why EU4 was so popular is lack of banner balance. But this is your server, you're entitled to enforce your own sub-set of rules.

Two good points.

Also I didnt say but its a goddamn good job to have succeeded into making this server connected to the database, who's the magician behind this miracle?
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Osiris on January 10, 2014, 11:46:50 pm
afaik the HRE DTV was connected for ages :D they just changed the game mode.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Butan on January 11, 2014, 01:48:39 am
I think changing the gamemode also disconnect from the database? Last time we had a private server with OdE, we changed some settings and bam, no xp/gold and they refused to connect it again... the bastards! (it was because our server was hosted on a member's computer  :mrgreen:)
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: darmaster on January 11, 2014, 02:08:00 am
+1

Why allow pikes, an not cav?

Anyways, no1 plays on the server...

Ban cav, pikes. an then u can start to have some nice fights. Pikes just ruins any good melee battle, everyone knows that DOH :!:

Why would they? Good supporting weapons ( as thovex underlined many times lol) but really bad if used alone
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: witchhunter on January 11, 2014, 03:26:45 pm
to answer some questions:
the server ist running for 2 years already: server info (http://forum.melee.org/other/eu_crpg_hre/)
changing the gamemode won't disconnect the server. changing the name or ip does.
my guess is that the OdE server was disconnected because:
No home-hosted servers.

and here is a warning too: intentionally teamkilling others that are not interested in duels will get you banned.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Riddaren on January 11, 2014, 04:43:23 pm
Will there be smaller maps soon?
Without smaller maps there won't be many players on.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: witchhunter on January 12, 2014, 03:40:51 pm
it is a work in progress. i would activate mapvote, but unfortunately it is possible to crash the server intentionally that way :?
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Cyber on January 13, 2014, 06:40:32 pm
http://postimg.org/image/3jqtj5qcr/

Had been playing for a few rounds and he started to tk me, no idea why, did it for 2 rounds and then left. Maybe ban the guy for a while? Quite annoying when that happens while trying to play.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Radament on January 13, 2014, 09:12:06 pm
http://postimg.org/image/3jqtj5qcr/

Had been playing for a few rounds and he started to tk me, no idea why, did it for 2 rounds and then left. Maybe ban the guy for a while? Quite annoying when that happens while trying to play.
go for it http://forum.melee.org/eu-%28official%29/ (http://forum.melee.org/eu-%28official%29/)
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Cyber on January 13, 2014, 09:20:34 pm
go for it http://forum.melee.org/eu-%28official%29/ (http://forum.melee.org/eu-%28official%29/)

I would usually post there but I don't think HRE server has much to do with the official servers.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: ARN_ on January 13, 2014, 09:22:47 pm
I guess you should post it here: http://forum.melee.org/other/ (http://forum.melee.org/other/) it was at least the place to post when it was a dtv server
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Byrdi on January 15, 2014, 10:31:08 am
Make it a normal battle server. I am sure it would be very popular as an alternative to EU_4.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Radament on January 15, 2014, 01:13:39 pm
Make it a normal battle server. I am sure it would be very popular as an alternative to EU_4.
at this point yes...  too sad to see that server (a server where my ping don't go crazy in the evenings) is always empty because of duel dispute. make it normal , maybe with a twist (custom funny tiny maps).
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: BASNAK on January 15, 2014, 01:18:14 pm
Only way to get people in there is if some people hardcore kickstart it. I remember joining with few friends when it was empty and it eventually filled up to like 12 players quite quickly. And another time there were very few players (4 or so) and to help start up the server I played for about 2-3h in there, and in the end the server had 20-30 players which was really nice to see. Now I dont have the time to do this every day and it isn't particularly fun with very few players either. And I doubt others will either.

Best will be to have some sort of time where you could expect players to join the server knowing that others will also join. I think that is the main reason it empties. Maybe add Melee in the name of the server too?

Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Butan on January 15, 2014, 02:00:42 pm
No need to overthink it, there is some obvious holes in this melee server that needs fixing, until then it will have the players that it has.

EU_4 should be a reference (+ the only melee).
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Viriathus on January 15, 2014, 02:03:30 pm
Fips suggested me to submit this map to this server.

Its too small for EU1, but not too small, theres even room for cav

TEMPLAR CHURCH (01/01/2014)
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Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Rebelyell on January 15, 2014, 03:17:44 pm
melee only server always will suck balls becouse of retarded brocoding and lack of reall fight
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Radament on January 15, 2014, 03:40:39 pm
Fips suggested me to submit this map to this server.

Its too small for EU1, but not too small, theres even room for cav
awesome map , don't know why it reminds me of Thief:Deadly Shadows
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Riddaren on January 15, 2014, 08:38:51 pm
Start with settings and maps that will fill the server, then change them later on.
30 player max. Arena only. Ranged and cavalry allowed.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on January 15, 2014, 09:01:02 pm
Was better when HRE was a dtv server.  Wanted to play some HRE DTV the other day and there was nobody in the server, but since it was melee only, it was useless for me to be there.  IF it was DTV, it would have been serving a porpoise.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: darmaster on January 15, 2014, 09:26:43 pm
Was better when HRE was a dtv server.  Wanted to play some HRE DTV the other day and there was nobody in the server, but since it was melee only, it was useless for me to be there.  IF it was DTV, it would have been serving a porpoise.

yours, right?


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Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on January 15, 2014, 09:47:05 pm
yours, right?


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No I don't mean it would have been serving "my purpose".  I mean it would have literally been serving a purpose, as in someone would have been playing (using the server) had it been DTV.  But since it was melee only (which doesn't interest me, especially not if I'm the only person there) I left.  An empty server is not serving a purpose is what I was suggesting.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Pestdoktor on February 03, 2014, 09:58:29 pm
>Another DTV instead of small battle or Rageball

visitors can't see pics , please register or login
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Normanguy on February 03, 2014, 10:01:42 pm
Yes was a great server when it used to be up.

BRING MELEE SERVER BACK!!:D
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Miwiw on February 03, 2014, 10:10:45 pm
Melee only server, as you see, is not wanted. 2 DTV servers is far the better choice.
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Pestdoktor on February 03, 2014, 10:15:32 pm
Melee only server, as you see, is not wanted. 2 DTV servers is far the better choice.

I don't care whether it's melee only or not but how someone would rather play on a server with 64 ppl on than one with 16 is beyond me...
Title: Re: Melee only?
Post by: Miwiw on February 03, 2014, 10:26:36 pm
Low amount of players is quite boring, especially if you are able to survive for a longer time. It's more enjoyable to fight in bigger groups and lead a big charge of battle-lusting men to death.