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Title: PC build
Post by: Latvian on January 06, 2014, 12:48:15 pm
suggest me PC builds for lets say max to 1k euros. I am not very good with PC so any advice would be helpfull.  :)  would be best if you provide links for purchase as well.
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: IR_Kuoin on January 06, 2014, 12:52:20 pm
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Intel-Potato core
16 liquid potato juice RAM
PotatoX8050 series
64-bit potato
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Kafein on January 06, 2014, 12:53:35 pm
Great for simulating potato physics
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Nightmare798 on January 06, 2014, 01:00:21 pm
Quote from: IR_Kuoin on January 06, 2014, 12:52:20 pm
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Intel-Potato core
16 liquid potato juice RAM
PotatoX8050 series
64-bit potato

What about the price? Potato cheap?
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Molly on January 06, 2014, 01:17:07 pm
You gotta love this forum lol  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on January 06, 2014, 01:42:48 pm
Oh, i wish i could + :)

K, can't miss an opportunity to hop on the potato train here!

Quote from: IR_Kuoin on January 06, 2014, 12:52:20 pm
Intel-Potato core
16 liquid potato juice RAM
PotatoX8050 series
64-bit potato

A pre-assembled PC:

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And here is a budget version:

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Title: Re: PC build
Post by: [ptx] on January 06, 2014, 01:49:43 pm
Whatever you build, buy it from Ebay. By far the cheapest way to get electronics to Baltics.
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Vibe on January 06, 2014, 01:57:30 pm
27/12
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Jarold on January 06, 2014, 02:05:50 pm
Sorry broke the chain of potatoes. :[



Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131795)
Graphics Card - GTX 660 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121660)
PSU - Corsair 500w (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027)
Processor - AMD FX-6300 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286)
HDD - 1TB WD Caviar Blue (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2W00YU4026)
RAM - Corsair 2 x 4GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233192)
Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811233117)
Optical Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204)
Windows 8 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=32-416-776%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20)

This all comes out to about $730 so even cheaper in euros. But I feel like this is pretty cheap and it can play all the newest games on ultra or even at a constant 60+ fps if you put them only on high/medium for something like BF4.

I'm actually planning on building with these parts myself.  :oops:
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Molly on January 06, 2014, 02:15:46 pm
I'd generally suggest buying a nice graphics card - out of personal experience.

My cpu is rather old but runs stable overclocked @ 3.6GHz (Core 2 Duo E8600 stock @ 3.2GHz).

My graphics card is a HD6870 which probably is faster than my cpu provides but I noticed that modern games are kinda stuck on the amount of cpu they use and go way heavier on graphic power. So, my suggestion basicly is: if you need to save money, don't do it on the graphics card.
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Latvian on January 06, 2014, 05:42:34 pm
Quote from: Jarold on January 06, 2014, 02:05:50 pm
Sorry broke the chain of potatoes. :[



Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131795)
Graphics Card - GTX 660 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121660)
PSU - Corsair 500w (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027)
Processor - AMD FX-6300 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286)
HDD - 1TB WD Caviar Blue (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2W00YU4026)
RAM - Corsair 2 x 4GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233192)
Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811233117)
Optical Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204)
Windows 8 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=32-416-776%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20)

This all comes out to about $730 so even cheaper in euros. But I feel like this is pretty cheap and it can play all the newest games on ultra or even at a constant 60+ fps if you put them only on high/medium for something like BF4.

I'm actually planning on building with these parts myself.  :oops:
more posts like this :D i kinda need it fast cuz i am bored of crappy laptops.and btw you can make like up to 2 times more expensive buil.
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: FleetFox on January 06, 2014, 05:53:17 pm
Hey good luck Latvian with your custom build. I'd recommend getting a nice Nvidia card and a Intel processor if you can :) I am also tired of playing on laptop but I dont have monies atm, maybe you can share your bounty from sailing the seven seas? :D
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Leshma on January 06, 2014, 06:03:42 pm
AMD is promising great things with Mantle, but like with everything AMD it's only a promise...

Intel i7-4771K
16 GB DDR3 RAM
GeForce GTX770
250 GB SSD
PSU SS620 or TT800W
Windows Pirate Edition*
Case Corsair

*Do not buy this shit, do not pay money to Microsoft. Unless you're American.

You'll be able to install SteamOS on this can and I'm certain that fine chap from Trieste will have to port his engine to Linux in near future :wink:
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Latvian on January 06, 2014, 06:06:55 pm
Quote from: FleetFox on January 06, 2014, 05:53:17 pm
Hey good luck Latvian with your custom build. I'd recommend getting a nice Nvidia card and a Intel processor if you can :) I am also tired of playing on laptop but I dont have monies atm, maybe you can share your bounty from sailing the seven seas? :D
i rather not :D
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Latvian on January 06, 2014, 06:07:31 pm
Quote from: Leshma on January 06, 2014, 06:03:42 pm
AMD is promising great things with Mantle, but like with everything AMD it's only a promise...

Intel i7-4771K
16 GB DDR3 RAM
GeForce GTX770
250 GB SSD
PSU SS620 or TT800W
Windows Pirate Edition*
Case Corsair

*Do not buy this shit, do not pay money to Microsoft. Unless you're American.
well i have win 7 cd for my laptop but no idea if it would work .
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Leshma on January 06, 2014, 06:09:42 pm
Unless it is OEM license (which most likely is) you can call them and ask to transfer your license to new PC. Are you university student? If you are try to find a way to get it from Dreamspark.
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Latvian on January 06, 2014, 06:13:10 pm
Quote from: Leshma on January 06, 2014, 06:09:42 pm
Unless it is OEM license (which most likely is) you can call them and ask to transfer your license to new PC. Are you university student? If you are try to find a way to get it from Dreamspark.
no i am not uni student
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: [ptx] on January 06, 2014, 06:30:37 pm
Quote from: Leshma on January 06, 2014, 06:03:42 pm
AMD is promising great things with Mantle, but like with everything AMD it's only a promise...

Intel i7-4771K
16 GB DDR3 RAM
GeForce GTX770
250 GB SSD
PSU SS620 or TT800W
Windows Pirate Edition*
Case Corsair

*Do not buy this shit, do not pay money to Microsoft. Unless you're American.

You'll be able to install SteamOS on this can and I'm certain that fine chap from Trieste will have to port his engine to Linux in near future :wink:
I'd replace the 250gb SSD with a 120gb SSD + 2TB HDD, much more practical, imo. That's pretty much it. I bet you can put this together on ebay for 1k euros, anything more than this is probably just a waste.
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Tibe on January 06, 2014, 06:34:14 pm
I kinda dislike AMDs in general. Options for making a PC are quite limitless honestly. Just make sure your powersupply can sustain your PC and get a very high-end graphicscard and shitton of RAM. Id suggest 16gb max. 8 is good too if you dont plan on hosting servers and such. And as I understood Jarlek proposed GTX 660. I have a GTX 670(which is better) and it is starting to show slight signs of aging. Would not suggest going 660. Id go with Leshma on this and just go with a GTX 770. GPU is superimportant and id suggest not sparing expense when getting one to avoid getting frustrated and buying a new one in a short time. Personally as a slightly more then casual gamer that I am, I never found much use for my i7 processor. People I know, run everything fine even with i3s.
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: IR_Kuoin on January 06, 2014, 06:35:56 pm
Yeah a good power supply is important. Had a coolmaster 500w broke on me 2 weeks ago. Only had it for around 3 months :|
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Kafein on January 06, 2014, 06:53:23 pm
As latvian asked over steam, here are my recommendations.

Basically the same as Jarold, but replace the hard disk with something like this : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Seagate-1TB-2-5-SATA-6-0Gbps-Hard-Drive-Solid-State-Drive-Hybrid-ST1000LM014-/231087233186, or a 250Gb samsung SSD given that you already have a 1tb external drive.
I was going to suggest replacing the CPU with this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-NEW-Sealed-Intel-Core-i7-3770K-3-5GHz-Quad-Core-BX80637I73770K-Processor-/321287030628 but the Vishera is so cheap... there's probably a catch though, AMD CPUs being traditionally less gaming-friendly.

Also you'll definitely be fine with a 500W branded PSU unless you start derping with a SLI/Crossfire setup.
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Latvian on January 06, 2014, 07:29:36 pm
so as tyr is suggesting i should get this setup (german much)

http://www.amazon.de/Gainward-GTX770-Phantom-Grafikkarte-GDDR5/dp/B00D4DEXEY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1389032041&sr=8-3&keywords=gtx+770

http://www.amazon.de/Intel-4670K-Prozessor-Sockel-LGA1150/dp/B00CO8TBOW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389032179&sr=8-1&keywords=Intel+Core+i5-4670k

http://www.amazon.de/MSI-7821-001R-Z87-G45-Mainboard-Graphics/dp/B00D12OBEU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1389032411&sr=8-2&keywords=mainboard

http://www.amazon.de/Corsair-Vengeance-Schwarz-Arbeitsspeicher-CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10/dp/B006EWUO22/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1389032575&sr=8-9&keywords=16+ddr+3

http://www.amazon.de/SANDISK-Ultra-Plus-Desktop-256GB/dp/B00AYCRD86/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1389032834&sr=8-2&keywords=ssd+256+sandisk
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: FleetFox on January 06, 2014, 08:03:13 pm
I'd also recommend waiting for the arrival of the steam box consoles (to see if they turn out any good), you might just feel they will be a good option for the money to use as a gaming rig, then laptop for every day use :)
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Tore on January 06, 2014, 08:05:36 pm
Quote from: FleetFox on January 06, 2014, 08:03:13 pm
I'd also recommend waiting for the arrival of the steam box consoles (to see if they turn out any good), you might just feel they will be a good option for the money to use as a gaming rig, then laptop for every day use :)

It will probarbly still be cheaper to build a pc yourself, and steam OS is free.
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Rumblood on January 06, 2014, 10:01:30 pm
Do you plan to build it?

This comes to 935 Euros from CyberpowerPC.com already assembled and ready to go. I think someone said in another thread that they dont ship to Europe, but there is a French site (I think) that does and is about similar on their pricing.

Quote
    Gaming Chasis: CYBERPOWERPC X-Titan 200 Full Tower Gaming Case w/ USB 3.0, Fan Control, EZ Swap HDD Dock, Side Panel Window (Black Color)
    Internal USB Expansion Module: None
    Neon Light Upgrade: None
    Extra Case Fans: Default case fans
    Noise Reduction Technology: None
    CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-4770K 3.50 GHz 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1150 (All Venom OC Certified)
    Performance Tuning Protection Plan by Intel: None
    Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: No Overclocking
    CPU / Processor Cooling Fan: Corsair Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Single Standard 120MM Fan)
    Coolant for Cyberpower Xtreme Hydro Water Cooling Kits: Standard Coolant
    Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX w/ Military Class 4, OC Genie II, GbLAN, 2 GEn3 PCIe x16, 2 PCIe x1, 2 PCI
    Intel Smart Response Technology: None
    RAM / System Memory: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1866MHz Dual Channel Memory (ADATA XPG V2)
    Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 2GB GDDR5 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
    Freebies: None
    Video Card 2: None
    Freebies: None
    Video Card 3: None
    Power Supply: 800 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Certified Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready
    Hard Drive: 2TB (2TBx1) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
    Secondary Hard Drive: None
    Hard Drive Cooling Fan: None
    External Storage: None
    USB Flash Drive: None
    Optical Drive: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
    Optical Drive 2: None
    External Optical Drive: None
    Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
    LCD Monitor: None
    2nd Monitor: None
    3rd Monitor: None
    Speakers: None
    Internal Network Card: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
    Keyboard: AZZA Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Leshma on January 06, 2014, 10:06:31 pm
935 EUR with taxes? Also PC parts are cheaper in USA.
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Jarold on January 07, 2014, 12:14:53 am
It's nice to know i'm the only poor one here! But sure if you can go double the price I put up for my build then definitely get a better graphics card, even though the 660 isn't terrible. I was just assuming you were trying to get it fast and cheap. I hear good things about the GTX 770 and my friend actually has one and it's great.

CPU is important if you have a good graphics card but not terribly important. With the AMD FX-6300 it could bottleneck you by 10-15 fps at most if you have a super chunky graphics card, but a 660 not at all really. So i'd go with an Intel i7 since you have a way bigger budget then me.

Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Latvian on January 07, 2014, 10:16:08 pm
oh boy , i think  i exceeted my budget a little by ordering this thing, well but you know what they say YOLO. even took legit windows :D

anyway thank you all who replied , helped me alot   :wink:

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i think i took different box though.
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: [ptx] on January 07, 2014, 10:42:58 pm
A pre-built? Come on, donate that money to charities, if it really burdens you that much O.o
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: NuberT on January 07, 2014, 10:50:49 pm
Quote from: Latvian on January 07, 2014, 10:16:08 pm
oh boy , i think  i exceeted my budget a little by ordering this thing, well but you know what they say YOLO. even took legit windows :D

anyway thank you all who replied , helped me alot   :wink:

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i think i took different box though.

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Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Latvian on January 07, 2014, 11:08:29 pm
Quote from: [ptx] on January 07, 2014, 10:42:58 pm
A pre-built? Come on, donate that money to charities, if it really burdens you that much O.o
its not prebuild, dateks.lv  select some random PC and replace all details to whatever you want, btw credits go to Kafein, helped me a lot :wink:
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Rumblood on January 08, 2014, 01:22:52 am
Grats on the new machine Latvian  :wink:
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Kafein on January 08, 2014, 01:38:16 am
Let's just say the biggest problem was finding a store that would deliver in Latvia
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Rogue on January 08, 2014, 02:12:25 am
Nice machine, but I would go for this graphics card instead of the GTX760:
http://geizhals.de/his-radeon-r9-280x-ipower-iceq-x-turbo-boost-clock-h280xqmt3g2m-a1014167.html
They seem to be in low supply virtually everywhere atm though.
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Rumblood on January 08, 2014, 02:56:27 am
Quote from: Rogue on January 08, 2014, 02:12:25 am
Nice machine, but I would go for this graphics card instead of the GTX760:
http://geizhals.de/his-radeon-r9-280x-ipower-iceq-x-turbo-boost-clock-h280xqmt3g2m-a1014167.html
They seem to be in low supply virtually everywhere atm though.

Well I suppose someone has to support Radeon to keep Nvidea on its toes, but...
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Tibe on January 08, 2014, 08:11:09 am
Quote from: Kafein on January 08, 2014, 01:38:16 am
Let's just say the biggest problem was finding a store that would deliver in Latvia
Indeed. Most companies dont do that due to latvian gangsters who rob deliverytrucks. They do this by throwing a basketfull of potatoes into an oncoming vehicles windshield. When the truck pulls over bunch of guys in moustaches and tracksuits will jump out of the bushes, beat up the driver and drive away with the goods. Why potatoes you ask? Cause everything in Latvia is measured and done in potato.
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: [ptx] on January 08, 2014, 12:37:28 pm
Quote from: Kafein on January 08, 2014, 01:38:16 am
Let's just say the biggest problem was finding a store that would deliver in Latvia
Quote from: Latvian on January 07, 2014, 11:08:29 pm
its not prebuild, dateks.lv  select some random PC and replace all details to whatever you want, btw credits go to Kafein, helped me a lot :wink:
Let me get this straight... not only did you not build it yourself, you actually bought from a latvian store? You do realise that pretty much all electronics are up to 4 times more expensive in latvian stores, in comparison to ordering them from ebay?

ye gods.
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: IR_Kuoin on January 08, 2014, 12:50:15 pm
Quote from: [ptx] on January 08, 2014, 12:37:28 pm
Let me get this straight... not only did you not build it yourself, you actually bought from a latvian store? You do realise that pretty much all electronics are up to 4 times more expensive in latvian stores, in comparison to ordering them from ebay?

ye gods.

Still cheaper than a potato ...
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: BASNAK on January 08, 2014, 04:14:39 pm
Quote from: [ptx] on January 08, 2014, 12:37:28 pm
Let me get this straight... not only did you not build it yourself, you actually bought from a latvian store? You do realise that pretty much all electronics are up to 4 times more expensive in latvian stores, in comparison to ordering them from ebay?

ye gods.

I know this is off-topic. But ptx your recent forum avatars are awesome.
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Latvian on January 08, 2014, 04:40:14 pm
Quote from: [ptx] on January 08, 2014, 12:37:28 pm
Let me get this straight... not only did you not build it yourself, you actually bought from a latvian store? You do realise that pretty much all electronics are up to 4 times more expensive in latvian stores, in comparison to ordering them from ebay?

ye gods.
i dont think its 4 times more expensive.
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: [ptx] on January 08, 2014, 04:53:27 pm
You overpaid at least 33%.
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: Latvian on January 08, 2014, 05:04:27 pm
Quote from: [ptx] on January 08, 2014, 04:53:27 pm
You overpaid at least 33%.
lies, prove that, send me link of same items in ebay that are much cheaper
Title: Re: PC build
Post by: BASNAK on January 08, 2014, 05:22:29 pm
Ebay is always cheaper. Unless your item gets stopped at the border police and have to pay for their services and then the shipping from border police to your home which is really expensive which happened to me once. But that might be because I was ordering Ak-74 magazines for an Airsoft. All other orders I made have saved me a fortune.