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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Panos_ on January 05, 2014, 11:52:17 am

Title: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: Panos_ on January 05, 2014, 11:52:17 am
Some new Saracen armours,  the pictures he provided on his thread was bad, so I installed his OSP to my PC and took some better ones.


Here is the OP : http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,223884.0.html

And here are the screenshots I made.


Saracen Mail over Padded Leather with a conical shaped turban

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Brown Saracen Mail with a brown conical turban

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Mail under linen cloth alongside with a nice open turban

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Next one is Ghulam mail along with Ghulam helmet

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Red Heavy Ghulam Mail alongside with a red open turban

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Red Heavy Mail and Plate Saracen Armour

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Green mail and plate

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A light leather armour

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Thanks for reading me guys!
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: Jarold on January 05, 2014, 06:11:06 pm
Why must we even think about not adding these! Add them now!
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: Shadowren on January 05, 2014, 06:53:30 pm
Quote from: Panos_the_Bear on January 05, 2014, 11:52:17 am
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Add that camel!
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: Varadin on January 05, 2014, 07:50:54 pm
Im cumming , add this now  :shock:
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: Dionysus on January 06, 2014, 08:12:31 am
Add these for the love of Allah!
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: Erzengel on January 06, 2014, 12:14:38 pm
Awesome items, add them now!
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: [ptx] on January 06, 2014, 12:49:25 pm
These are actually nice...
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: zagibu on January 06, 2014, 10:59:34 pm
I'll check it out, too. Some do look like they would be a worthy addition.
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: Ronin on January 06, 2014, 11:47:29 pm
Hmm If I remember correctly, al mansur also did some work on these models. Probably increased their variety with colors.
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: Viriathus on January 08, 2014, 10:57:28 am
Is that a camel model i see there?
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: zagibu on January 08, 2014, 06:22:54 pm
Alright, this one actually has a lot of items, will take a while to sift through.
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: zagibu on January 08, 2014, 08:40:03 pm
All of those armors (with one exception) have no female version.
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: Suchechka on January 08, 2014, 08:45:14 pm
Quote from: zagibu on January 08, 2014, 08:40:03 pm
All of those armors (with one exception) have no female version.
1st, female version is supereasy to add, just check last BRF-editor.
2nd, they all look not better than original warband sarranid outfits, and sometimes even worse. That is why they shouldn't be added.
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: zagibu on January 08, 2014, 08:50:46 pm
Quote from: Suchechka on January 08, 2014, 08:45:14 pm
1st, female version is supereasy to add, just check last BRF-editor.
2nd, they all look not better than original warband sarranid outfits, and sometimes even worse. That is why they shouldn't be added.

1st, automatically created female frames often look like crap
2nd, your opinion is just that: an opinion
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: Ronin on January 08, 2014, 08:55:01 pm
I think they are fantastic. I can even say this was the armor pack I was waiting for ages, to get implemented.

Do you have any ideas how to make it "compatible" with females?
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: musketer on January 08, 2014, 08:55:47 pm
How can you say that it looks bad? omg look at this!

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Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: zagibu on January 08, 2014, 09:03:39 pm
I added the generated female frames of the ones in the cRPGViewer, too. The female Saracen Mail has a few deformed triangles in the back of the shoulders.
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: Erzengel on January 08, 2014, 09:16:21 pm
Quote from: zagibu on January 08, 2014, 08:40:03 pm
All of those armors (with one exception) have no female version.

Of course they don't have female versions, they are muslim armours. Silly.  :wink:
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: Ronin on January 08, 2014, 09:18:49 pm
Erzengel_Muslim_HRE :twisted:
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: Dionysus on January 08, 2014, 11:19:19 pm
Seeing active responses to these armors makes me all giddy.
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: zagibu on January 08, 2014, 11:35:00 pm
The mail armors with the trompet sleeves have various small problems that might take a while to fix (some corrupted UV positions, texture misalignment at seams, specular map bleeding into areas it shouldn't). Also, it will be challenging to select a set that fits well into cRPG, because besides the small problems, they are quite good retextures, but all of a similar style, and we certainly don't need 10+ new mail shirts.
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: Erzengel on January 08, 2014, 11:56:10 pm
You can never have enough Mail Shirts imho. There also is a lack of high quality ones. Most Mail Shirts either have extremly shitty textures (like old Heraldic Mails) and/or bug with helmets/gauntlets/boots (no knees), which is extremly annoying.

Not sure if we need 5/6 different Tunics over Mail/Surcoats over Mail, though. I would prefer to replace them with new armours that actually look different/aren't bugged.

It would also be awesome if we could implement something like Korgoth's retextures for all armours in the mod. I hate it if my items have different mail structures/colours.

And yes, I am a little bit sensitive. :wink:

Your work is really appreciated zagibu. :)
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: zagibu on January 09, 2014, 04:50:22 pm
I have brought all the armors I deemed fitting before the council. They have imposed a two week deadline on all voting now, so in two weeks at the latest, we'll have a result.

Sifting through his other stuff now.
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: zagibu on January 10, 2014, 12:49:48 am
Helmets have been brought before the council.
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: zagibu on January 10, 2014, 12:55:29 am
The shields didn't spark my interest.
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: Tovi on January 10, 2014, 05:16:25 pm
All these armors rox ! Please add them all.
I need especially the norman's ones, for my norman sicilian character.
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And arabian cavalry shields please.

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Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: Tovi on January 11, 2014, 10:50:06 am
Here are some more screenshots :

Lamelar A :
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Mail shirt C
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Mail shirt A
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Scale mail
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Padded armor A
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Pädded armor B
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Shirt over mail
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Shirt
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Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: zagibu on January 14, 2014, 10:01:47 pm
A lot of these helmets and armors have been approved by the council. I will implement a good set in the next patch (about 3-6 armors and 3-6 helmets).
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: Tovi on January 15, 2014, 12:14:16 pm
All armors are very good indeed.
Padded armor B fits with more helmets than Padded armor A.

You should take them all and replace some surcoat over mail and tunic over mail by an unique "colored" surcoat or tunic. We really lake of Saracens armors.
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: Tovi on January 15, 2014, 06:32:22 pm
Quote from: zagibu on January 14, 2014, 10:01:47 pm
A lot of these helmets and armors have been approved by the council. I will implement a good set in the next patch (about 3-6 armors and 3-6 helmets).

I really hope this one will added :

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Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: zagibu on January 15, 2014, 07:44:23 pm
No, this one was not approved, probably because it is too similar to the Norman Double Mail we already have.
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: Tovi on January 15, 2014, 08:10:57 pm
Ooooooh nooooo!


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They really are not the same at all !
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: Panos_ on January 17, 2014, 04:22:19 pm
Quote from: zagibu on January 15, 2014, 07:44:23 pm
No, this one was not approved, probably because it is too similar to the Norman Double Mail we already have.

yeah, but its not the same armour, the second one has a lot more leg armour, and its full mail
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: Erzengel on January 18, 2014, 01:06:40 pm
Quote from: zagibu on January 15, 2014, 07:44:23 pm
No, this one was not approved, probably because it is too similar to the Norman Double Mail we already have.

Could you please discuss this again? Yes, it is very similar, but Norman Double Mail has bugged legs (no knees) + a minor (but annoying) bug with head armor. Most (all?) western european armors between 40 and 50 body armor have some terrible graphic bugs. Would be nice if we could get some without.

What about the other Norman armour? Can we please at least get this one?  :D
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: zagibu on January 18, 2014, 02:37:54 pm
The other Norman Mail Armour passed and will be included in a future patch. Also, the problems with helmets are inherent in the system, they can't really be fixed. We would have to remodel almost all armors and helmets, so that we could then rig the helmets like Narf did in his Men at Arms pack (e.g. Kettle Hat with Aventail in the shop), and then they would fit together perfectly. Any volunteers?
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: Tovi on January 18, 2014, 08:54:19 pm
But the first one fit well for cav, and he's more "color neutral".
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: Panos_ on February 24, 2014, 11:09:16 pm
Any news regarding the Norman Mail armours?

Sure, we already have a norman mail, but dont forget that we have 4 variations of coat of plates..
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: zagibu on February 24, 2014, 11:45:03 pm
They have been voted out. Well, one wasn't, but I couldn't fix it, it has lots of issues with vertex weights and UV mapping.
Title: Re: Sonyer`s OSP (saracen themed armours)
Post by: Panos_ on February 24, 2014, 11:51:26 pm
ok, locking this up then!

cheers for the reply!