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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: PieParadox on May 15, 2011, 10:31:12 pm
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I've been playing a lot lately and a lot of team stacking is going on... Clan members and good players all just get on the same team, either by choosing so or having the admin of the server do it. While I know it's fun to play with clan mates, it's not fun for the rest of the players and makes it one sided for several games in a row, causing the other team to switch to peasant uniforms and pushing noobs away from the game... Don't really know how to fix this though but I just hope that players will be a little more considerate in not stacking so hard... At least don't do it for multiple games in a row!?
And please don't tell me to stop QQ and get better teamwork or something... lol
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Its automatic dude, based on the banners of the clan, if you wish to be on the same team use thier banner. Banner balance as it is called was implemented to make sure clans and teammates can play together, its not purposeful sometimes ive seen clans split because of autobalance.
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Yeah I know... but sometimes you'll be fighting 10 members of their clan while theres only 1 of theirs on your team... Banner balance is cool tho
Edit: Also can admins switch clan members to same side? An admin muted someone (hehe not me) complaining about team stack, saying the teams were perfectly balanced
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Edit: Also can admins switch clan members to same side?
Nope.
BannerBalance was implemented for the purpose of letting friends have the fighting experience with buddies.
The clans also benefit from this by being able to practice tactics (or in some cases, just derping on the same team)
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Yeah I know... but sometimes you'll be fighting 10 members of their clan while theres only 1 of theirs on your team... Banner balance is cool tho
Edit: Also can admins switch clan members to same side? An admin muted someone (hehe not me) complaining about team stack, saying the teams were perfectly balanced
I don't think they can swap anyone to whatever side. And indeed, complaining about bad autobalance is useless, it's like talking to your computer and asking it to load a page faster. He'll do it if he can, but you have no impact on it.
Banner balancing is great, and most of the times, at least one member go to the other side for balancing issue.
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The cRPG adminstration panel does not have the native adminstrator panel orr mm admin panel that i have used in the past, therefore the answer to can admins swap players, is no. If they were able to do that there would be a hell of a lot of complaints about abuse etc etc. But banner balance as the others have said is there to allow teamplay
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There is a way, actually.
The Administrator first activates the PIN feature, then he instructs people in secret (Like a teamspeak) to pick the same pin (for example informing the three major clans to all pick Pin 83), then let the fun begin as "Clan Stacking" is brought to an all-new level.
Not that, I um... would know...
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There is a way, actually.
The Administrator first activates the PIN feature, then he instructs people in secret (Like a teamspeak) to pick the same pin (for example informing the three major clans to all pick Pin 83), then let the fun begin as "Clan Stacking" is brought to an all-new level.
Not that, I um... would know...
You mean, a server admin needs to inform you the clans PIN?
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You mean, a server admin needs to inform you the clans PIN?
I mean, you could always guess what it is...
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So thats why that PIN is for? Team stacking? Would be nice to take it out I think.
I play, don't have a clan, and don't know if Ill enter in one, probably not, I got high latency in all servers, but still play fairly well.
But I for sure want to play a fair game with skilled players on both side.
Banner balance is imba.
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Guys calm down why dont you just join a clan yourself if u find it so imba!!
If you wanna be the lone wolf and u dont like team work dont come here bitchen and ruin the fun for the rest of the crowd....
also strat will be up soon so find a clan or play with the same banner with friends ect ect... team work is fun it beats the lone wolf gameplay by far. :wink: :arrow: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/board,7.0.html
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Guys calm down why dont you just join a clan yourself if u find it so imba!!
If you wanna be the lone wolf and u dont like team work dont come here bitchen and ruin the fun for the rest of the crowd....
also strat will be up soon so find a clan or play with the same banner with friends ect ect... team work is fun it beats the lone wolf gameplay by far. :wink:
you can do teamwork WITHOUT banner balance , i will always be agaisnt it because its not even balanced lol , banner balance has 0 logic ,
playing with your clannies should be reserved for mostly one thing : STRATEGUS
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Guys calm down why dont you just join a clan yourself if u find it so imba!!
If you wanna be the lone wolf and u dont like team work dont come here bitchen and ruin the fun for the rest of the crowd....
also strat will be up soon so find a clan or play with the same banner with friends ect ect... team work is fun it beats the lone wolf gameplay by far. :wink: :arrow: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/board,7.0.html
lol... thats hardly the problem... there will always be people who are not in a clan...
that is such a temporary answer that has no logic lol
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Try countering with some tactics. Pick a banner, take the initiative, be polite and pray for some understanding.
GL :D
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I never play alone, can't, or I will die alone, anybody will.
I'm not a lone wolf, always do teamwork.
I'm new to the game, less then 2 weeks playing. I'm not near no clan, I'm not from USA not from EU, my latency is damn high (180~280 NA servers, +300 EU servers), and I'll not pay no clan do participate, if I make friends in the game, good!
I wish theres more LA players, and a LA server! :D
When a team is winning far from the other, is so hard to beats it, the losing team stay with no money to use good equipments, plate and stuff (I myself dont use, yet), and the Tin Cans are the ones who win the wars.
I'm totally against banner balance, makes the team who gets the better clan wins, always.
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you can do teamwork WITHOUT banner balance , i will always be agaisnt it because its not even balanced lol , banner balance has 0 logic ,
playing with your clannies should be reserved for mostly one thing : STRATEGUS
I'm not in a clan and I disagree. I use a banner none of the major clans use. So do a few other regulars. I like seeing them on my team all the time. It's like being in a clan without the pain in the ass of being in one.
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So thats why that PIN is for? Team stacking? Would be nice to take it out I think.
I play, don't have a clan, and don't know if Ill enter in one, probably not, I got high latency in all servers, but still play fairly well.
But I for sure want to play a fair game with skilled players on both side.
Banner balance is imba.
Sounds like the only appropriate response is "Tough shit".
I read your complaint as something akin to:
I don't have a basketball team, don't think I'll ever bother with one, but I'm going to enter a tournament anyways. Everyone should have a pick-up team of pubbies just to keep things fair.....
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Sounds like the only appropriate response is "Tough shit".
I read your complaint as something akin to:
I don't have a basketball team, don't think I'll ever bother with one, but I'm going to enter a tournament anyways. Everyone should have a pick-up team of pubbies just to keep things fair.....
But it's the opposite?? I haven't gotten into Strategus yet but that would be the tournament and the servers would be pubs..?
A big reason I also brought this entire topic up is because, imo, the multiplier is not a good way to gain xp... Its almost a lottery with the team switching and doesn't really cause cohesian of a team (One guy might have 5x while other has 1x)... Gaining money can come to a crawl when losing 4-0 several games in a row.. I'm still confused if balance is a goal of the game... The multiplier depends on one team being stacked more than the other to be effective... The funnest battles are those that are close by <5 people, not a crushing defeat of 20 people still alive...
Everyone might as well copy the banner of the clans server and join in order to get on the stacked team... Which I do see a good amount of actually.
Try countering with some tactics. Pick a banner, take the initiative, be polite and pray for some understanding.
GL :D
^ That's truly all one can do I guess.. lol
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The problem is that random ppl doesn't know how to play together and do teamwork. Everyone go in different direction, rambo, camping, running...
I'm not in a clan, but i like to stick with group of ppl from same clan, follow them and do teamwork with them.
Sometimes in siege, clans are the only one to protect the flag, random like to fight on the walls, or even outside...
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The problem is that random ppl doesn't know how to play together and do teamwork. Everyone go in different direction, rambo, camping, running...
I'm not in a clan, but i like to stick with group of ppl from same clan, follow them and do teamwork with them.
Sometimes in siege, clans are the only one to protect the flag, random like to fight on the walls, or even outside...
+1
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The problem is that random ppl doesn't know how to play together and do teamwork. Everyone go in different direction, rambo, camping, running...
I'm not in a clan, but i like to stick with group of ppl from same clan, follow them and do teamwork with them.
Sometimes in siege, clans are the only one to protect the flag, random like to fight on the walls, or even outside...
Banner balance =/= the problem known as teamstacking.
the game will balance based on player KDR,etc and will have two evenly matched teams. If they work together using teamwork and yours doesn't attempt to/does poorly you will lose.
When I play alone, I carry a flag around and type orders repeatedly in chat until people listen and we start rolling the other team.
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Usually if there is one clan stacking one team, there will be another clan stacking the opposite team.
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But it's the opposite?? I haven't gotten into Strategus yet but that would be the tournament and the servers would be pubs..?
No. Strat is just an "extra" part of the game. The standard servers are the standard game.
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STFU AND JOIN A CLAN OR PLAY WITH FRIENDS
The site suggests to ^.^
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Heres just a prime example of a game I played today... Autobalance ftw!
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Eh... 6 clan members on one team and not a single on the other?? Lose 4-1 for several games iz fun
And I shouldn't be forced to join a clan if I just want to play casually.
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Heres just a prime example of a game I played today... Autobalance ftw!
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Eh... 6 clan members on one team and not a single on the other?? Lose 4-1 for several games iz fun
And I shouldn't be forced to join a clan if I just want to play casually.
Then play casually with a popular (and skilled) clan banner, thus increasing the odds of being on the winning team.
EDIT: I also think that was bad luck, I rarely see Ty' with such a bad score.
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When Strategus is back up clans can play with their clanmates and do great tactic and such there. Then bannerInbalance can be removed from the normal servers, or leave it on on one or two. Perhaps there already could be one server for "random play" now, for people who want to have equal/fair teams, while the rest can be for clanpeople and people who wanna play on the same team as their friends.
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Then play casually with a popular (and skilled) clan banner, thus increasing the odds of being on the winning team.
EDIT: I also think that was bad luck, I rarely see Ty' with such a bad score.
Re Edit: Exactly, if Tydeus hadn't been goofing off the 'stack' would have been stuck with an x1 multiplier :wink:
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Come to EU 1 its not a problem there i guess you just lack more players on the NA servers.... should´nt really punish the rest of the community just cause u lack a bigger variety in skilled players.
i would like to see 6 clan members on the EU dominate the entire server..... :lol:
Not trolling or anything but its really rare we have rounds that ends up 5-0 5-1 maybe like once a day it can happen so no big deal.
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That looked like a pretty fair balance tbh.
The non-clan tam had some really good playes like tydeus -- who went 0 - 2?
yeah, that was a fluke. You guys probably all split up and let them beat you ~_~.
Nobody on your team rallying them together? Grab a flag and lead them yourself.
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Then play casually with a popular (and skilled) clan banner, thus increasing the odds of being on the winning team.
EDIT: I also think that was bad luck, I rarely see Ty' with such a bad score.
It's always fun running towards someone with your banner to help them and communicate on teamspeak/voice chat program your clan uses only to find out it's some random guy =p
Then it turns out there's like 5 or 6 other random guys running around with your banner and it gets confusing. If they stick with the rest of us then I guess it's all good =p
I want to play with my clanmates when I play, otherwise I probably wouldn't have joined the clan in the first place. If they remove that then what the shat???
Perhaps Tydeus just retired? Team of peasants maybe? I don't recognize a whole lot of those people.