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Title: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Leesin on December 31, 2013, 03:15:00 pm
So yeah, whilst I didn't like the movie much, I think this quote is still awesome, humans are awesome. Don't downvote me or my son will cry.

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Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Panos_ on December 31, 2013, 03:20:23 pm
Don't downvote me or my son will cry.


 :lol:
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: [ptx] on December 31, 2013, 03:23:18 pm
I think this quote is still awesome, humans are awesome. Don't downvote me or my son will cry.
Upvoted for this :D
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Moncho on December 31, 2013, 03:29:07 pm
Upvoted for this :D
Exactly what made me downvote
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: SixThumbs on December 31, 2013, 03:32:40 pm
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on December 31, 2013, 04:06:00 pm
Pretty sure he never says that in the movie.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Xant on December 31, 2013, 04:09:18 pm
Gay quote.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Christo on December 31, 2013, 04:11:10 pm
I still didn't see this movie.

lol
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on December 31, 2013, 04:15:00 pm
But since we're sharing cool long-ass sci-fi quotes, here's another one:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Leesin on December 31, 2013, 04:24:50 pm
Pretty sure he never says that in the movie.

He doesn't, it's an edited quote from some Space Marine shit, but this guys the only decent character in the movie and it's an awesome quote, I guess I should have written the title better lol. Avatar being a shit movie is still correct though.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Xant on December 31, 2013, 04:29:57 pm
Doesn't fit very well at all in Avatar. The way those aliens are living is 1000000000x better than how humanity in the movie is living.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on December 31, 2013, 04:38:41 pm
Doesn't fit very well at all in Avatar. The way those aliens are living is 1000000000x better than how humanity in the movie is living.

Spare us your pity, Xant.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on December 31, 2013, 04:42:40 pm
Doesn't fit very well at all in Avatar. The way those aliens are living is 1000000000x better than how humanity in the movie is living.

Maybe better than how you live  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Leesin on December 31, 2013, 04:45:25 pm
Doesn't fit very well at all in Avatar. The way those aliens are living is 1000000000x better than how humanity in the movie is living.

My dick doesn't fit very well into your arsehole but I'll still force it in there you goddamn alien loving hippy.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Rumblood on December 31, 2013, 04:59:44 pm
Gay quote.

I have to agree. A species made up by humans so that they could make a self-righteous quote about how awesome our way of life is compared to their's. Ghey.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Leesin on December 31, 2013, 05:08:07 pm
I see it more as how self-righteously awesome we are rather than having anything to do with "way of life", humans are fucking awesome, deal with it bro, universes best creation, titties.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Xant on December 31, 2013, 05:08:46 pm
My dick doesn't fit very well into your arsehole but I'll still force it in there you goddamn alien loving hippy.
Promise?
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Leesin on December 31, 2013, 05:12:04 pm
Pinky promise sweetheart
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: no_rules_just_play on December 31, 2013, 07:39:27 pm
The details of my life are quite inconsequential... very well, where do I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds- pretty standard really. At the age of twelve I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it's breathtaking- I highly suggest you try it.

I love these movies
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: zagibu on January 02, 2014, 02:55:36 am
The quote sounds good at first, but then you realize that what he's talking about is really the only way for humans to continue their existence. We have no other hope than to travel from planet to planet stripping everything bare and moving on when nothing's left. I mean, we can't even keep our home planet in balance.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Osiris on January 02, 2014, 03:09:11 am
The quote sounds good at first, but then you realize that what he's talking about is really the only way for humans to continue their existence. We have no other hope than to travel from planet to planet stripping everything bare and moving on when nothing's left. I mean, we can't even keep our home planet in balance.

well its a good plan. worked well for the aliens in Independence day. We just need to avoid planets with will smith on and nukes and also avoid making our main weapon our greatest weakness :D
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Bjord on January 02, 2014, 03:44:11 am
Xant plays Vaanu, it is known.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Clockworkkiller on January 02, 2014, 04:00:15 am
For the entire movie I was rooting for the humans, I got pissed when the one guy went and allied with the stupid aliens
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Kafein on January 02, 2014, 11:34:12 am
Pretty sure he never says that in the movie.

Exactly my thought. Avatar is much too simplistic to even suggest that the humans might have a hint of morality. I mean it's pretty ridiculous when they say the stuff they want to mine is worth trillions of dollars a gramme, yet they never explain what are its applications. It's Poncahontas in 3D, and Pocahontas was already one of the worst Disney of all time.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on January 02, 2014, 12:27:12 pm
... humans are fucking awesome, deal with it bro, universes best creation, titties.

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We sure are, good buddy, we sure are!

EDIT:

Want to know more about how humans are universes best creation?.. Go on 4chan /b/, and start a new "post your favorite gore" thread. You will learn much about how fucking awesome we are ;)
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Osiris on January 02, 2014, 01:05:39 pm
yeah look how happy those three guys are. we are awesome
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Torben on January 02, 2014, 01:13:25 pm
well its a good plan. worked well for the aliens in Independence day. We just need to avoid planets with will smith on and nukes and also avoid making our main weapon our greatest weakness :D

we need to avoid planets with dos and windows 95 based viruses.

and jeff goldblum
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Tibe on January 02, 2014, 06:14:48 pm
When some advanced alien race comes to enslave all humanity, id like to see you still thinking so highly of that quote.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Belatu on January 02, 2014, 06:37:46 pm
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We sure are, good buddy, we sure are!

EDIT:

Want to know more about how humans are universes best creation?.. Go on 4chan /b/, and start a new "post your favorite gore" thread. You will learn much about how fucking awesome we are ;)

Who is the one of the right?
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Christo on January 02, 2014, 06:40:01 pm
Who is the one of the right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot)
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Belatu on January 02, 2014, 06:43:40 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot)

I mean; the one who is on the right of Pol Pot...

If there are 3 guys and we assume that einstein is on the left, and polpot is on the middle.... for 25 points ..... who is the one of the right?

Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Christo on January 02, 2014, 06:46:01 pm
Ted Bundy?
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Tibe on January 02, 2014, 06:55:51 pm
Rapist, murderer, necrophile and loads of other bad words. Sounds like a nice enough sort.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Osiris on January 02, 2014, 07:21:21 pm
whatever makes you happy eh. Not like the gambling bankers haven't caused far more misery than Bundy ever will. (not saying he is a nice guy or anything :D) But you can pick the bad apples from any group so who's to say that alien races wouldn't be much bigger cunts? :D
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Yazid on January 03, 2014, 03:35:05 am
When you die, what difference does it make if the sun burned out or not, your existence would have rejoined the energy that is eternally happening,
on the contrary,

you would have spent all your life being an oppressor to others and ensuring future oppression of your species with backlash after backlash

yes we're awesome for our concerted ability for terrible things, to become a copy of someone else's mind and agenda and adhere to that, so perfectly that we are no longer ourselves, as if we cut a branch from a tree and grew a new tree, we copy others and become them, time after time.

a self-aggrandizing egomaniac civilization not colonize space, because by that token it will fail to set it's house straight.

I've seen/read plenty of Carl Sagan to know that.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Leesin on January 03, 2014, 10:19:01 pm
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We sure are, good buddy, we sure are!

EDIT:

Want to know more about how humans are universes best creation?.. Go on 4chan /b/, and start a new "post your favorite gore" thread. You will learn much about how fucking awesome we are ;)

Yeah because I'm 27, have been using the internet since I was a kid and have never seen gore on the internet  :rolleyes:.

Even with all of our downfalls, we are awesome. You people can sit here and post pictures of a few bad apples whilst ignoring the massive advances, discoveries and creations our race has made. You're sitting there typing on your computer, which is a combination of so many of ideas, inventions, discoveries and creations, failing to appreciate just how fucking awesome Humans are to have created all of this, most of which is in a matter of the past few hundred years, merely a blink in the universe. Yep, we're awesome.

When some advanced alien race comes to enslave all humanity, id like to see you still thinking so highly of that quote.

Yeah because you really believe that's ever going to happen? the universe is such a vast place that the probability of us ever coming into contact with a race similar to ourselves and with the capacity for equal or more advanced technology is sadly quite unlikely.

 People seem to assume that because humans exist, that highly intelligent space faring aliens hellbent on enslaving humanity must definitely exist, whilst ignoring the fact that even on our planet, abundant with life, we are just only one creation out of millions upon millions. There are so many possibilities in evolution and creation that there are most likely few species like Humans in the universe and the chances of them and us existing at the SAME time in a close enough proximity to ever make contact are without a doubt, very small. But hey, that's another thing that makes us so awesome, our imagination.

I'm gonna go sit on my awesome sofa now with an awesome cup of tea, bet no alien species in the universe has tea, fucking hippy aliens, totally not awesome.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Xant on January 03, 2014, 10:28:31 pm
Estimating the probability of an alien race coming into contact with us is impossible with our current knowledge.
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Post by: Ninja_Khorin on January 03, 2014, 10:35:30 pm
This entire conversation reminds me of:

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Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Leesin on January 03, 2014, 10:46:55 pm
Estimating the probability of an alien race coming into contact with us is impossible with our current knowledge.

I don't think anyone has tried to properly "estimate" the probability of it happening, only either assumed it will happen or to doubt it will happen, I am of the latter. The universe doesn't purposefully create awesome species like Humans, it just happens,  look at the millions upon millions of other species that exist on our planet, they happened too. Why do people assume that species even similar to us exist at all, or exist close to enough to ever come into contact with. Do I believe there is alien life? yes I do, but I believe we are far more awesome than those shitty fucking alien  scumbags and we'll take their fucking lunch money. AWESOME

HUMAN RACE HUMAN RACE HUMAN RACE HUMAN RACE HUMAN RACE HUMAN RACE
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Kafein on January 03, 2014, 10:59:41 pm
I don't think anyone has tried to properly "estimate" the probability of it happening, only either assumed it will happen or to doubt it will happen, I am of the latter.

It's a serious scientific enquiry. With new discoveries of distant solar systems and their characteristics our view of extraterrestrial life has changed tremendously. The dominating school is that once life forms colonise a planet, intelligence is bound to develop at some point, unless life entirely disappears from the planet for some reason. The more interesting questions occur after and before that. For how long can we contact alien civilizations before they collapse if they do ? It's interesting because we don't have the first bit of an answer.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Christo on January 03, 2014, 10:59:56 pm
Do I believe there is alien life? yes I do, but I believe we are far more awesome than those shitty fucking alien  scumbags and we'll take their fucking lunch money. AWESOME

HUMAN RACE HUMAN RACE HUMAN RACE HUMAN RACE HUMAN RACE HUMAN RACE

straight outta' 40K
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Xant on January 03, 2014, 11:20:15 pm
It's a serious scientific enquiry. With new discoveries of distant solar systems and their characteristics our view of extraterrestrial life has changed tremendously. The dominating school is that once life forms colonise a planet, intelligence is bound to develop at some point, unless life entirely disappears from the planet for some reason. The more interesting questions occur after and before that. For how long can we contact alien civilizations before they collapse if they do ? It's interesting because we don't have the first bit of an answer.
Intelligence alone is not enough. Dolphins with human-like intelligence wouldn't be capable of manipulating objects, thus they'd never advance scientifically. There are many things needed for a species to become spacefaring.
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Post by: Sir_Hans on January 04, 2014, 09:49:43 am
Did somebody say dolphins?!?  :mrgreen:

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Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Tibe on January 04, 2014, 11:37:52 am
Intelligence alone is not enough. Dolphins with human-like intelligence wouldn't be capable of manipulating objects, thus they'd never advance scientifically. There are many things needed for a species to become spacefaring.
Mankind is relatively limited too, with short lifespans, fragile bodies and small brains. We do have a peak and personally I dont think it's very far.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Kafein on January 04, 2014, 11:58:48 am
Intelligence alone is not enough. Dolphins with human-like intelligence wouldn't be capable of manipulating objects, thus they'd never advance scientifically. There are many things needed for a species to become spacefaring.

Species that cannot manipulate objects wouldn't develop human-like intelligence in the first place. However, it doesn't sound too crazy to imagine marine animals with human-like intelligence and thumbs developping a civilization underwater.
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Post by: Christo on January 04, 2014, 12:23:00 pm
Mankind is relatively limited too, with short lifespans, fragile bodies and small brains. We do have a peak and personally I dont think it's very far.

I'm pretty sure that's what some people thought when they saw revolutionary inventions in their own lifetimes in the past, too.

"this is it, can't get any better than that."

And look where we are at now.
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Post by: Tibe on January 04, 2014, 12:38:13 pm
Been thinkin about that too, but honestly the best we can do is colonize planets in our solarsystem, if we even reach that point before raping our own planet into pieces. Unless we dont suddenly discover some super magicfuel there is no way we can go any further. A person wouldnt even live long enough to survive a single trip.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on January 04, 2014, 12:45:17 pm
Well, there's plenty of hydrogen and other possible fuel sources within our solar system, assuming we learn to use them.

Basically, I can think of only four ways to leave this place. Extremely fast ship, stasis tech, generation ship, sending embryos and such to other planet and let the children be raised by robots.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Overdriven on January 04, 2014, 01:25:05 pm
Well before we relied on animals. Then they discovered the super magic fuel of steam. Then oil. Who's to say we won't work out some other super magic fuel.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Tibe on January 04, 2014, 01:43:39 pm
Because it really has to be magic fuel. We are reliant on Earths resources and energetics have gone a long way that we can somewhat determine from which material we can squeeze out how much power and I highly doubt we will suddenly find vast amounts of some resource on Earth that could provide enough energy even for a one-way trip to another solar system. Steam, oli and nuclear energy are basically 0 compared to the power required for interstellar travel. There is no earthly material even close, that can provide the need. Im sure breakthroughs would eventually enhance planetary travel, but thats it. Ofcourse im no scientist or anything really, but this is pretty much my bet.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Overdriven on January 04, 2014, 01:48:29 pm
Seriously man. Have you ever been to the center of the earth? Who knows what the fuck is down there  :P
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Tibe on January 04, 2014, 02:02:43 pm
No, but I watched "The Core" which is a superaccurate and totally legit movie.
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Post by: Angantyr on January 04, 2014, 02:10:23 pm
Or even just on the deep ocean floor, which we neglect exploring before dreaming of the stars. Man's is an extrovert culture.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: [ptx] on January 04, 2014, 02:53:58 pm
Nuclear Fusion is magical :o
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Rumblood on January 04, 2014, 03:24:09 pm
Because it really has to be magic fuel. We are reliant on Earths resources and energetics have gone a long way that we can somewhat determine from which material we can squeeze out how much power and I highly doubt we will suddenly find vast amounts of some resource on Earth that could provide enough energy even for a one-way trip to another solar system. Steam, oli and nuclear energy are basically 0 compared to the power required for interstellar travel. There is no earthly material even close, that can provide the need. Im sure breakthroughs would eventually enhance planetary travel, but thats it. Ofcourse im no scientist or anything really, but this is pretty much my bet.

We already have it. It is called anti-matter with an energy yield of E=mc^2, and while we aren't making very much of it now, history has shown that humans have a remarkable tendency to find new ways to solve old problems. It was barely over 500 years ago when people thought it impossible to cross the ocean. Now you can go from America to China in hours. It is too bad that our lifetimes are so short, else I would gladly take your money.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on January 04, 2014, 03:25:51 pm
Or even just on the deep ocean floor, which we neglect exploring before dreaming of the stars. Man's is an extrovert culture.

You can't find aliens, or see angels on a dirty pitch-black ocean floor.

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Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Lt_Anders on January 04, 2014, 04:44:57 pm
We are exploring the ocean, but due to materials and knowledge, we have far less capability that we do exploring space. See, in space, there's so much mathmatics and small concerns that we have graciously expanded our knowledge in space travel. That and every single space disaster has changed how we approach the resolution of space colonization.

In fact, just to let everyone know, if we do use a pure FTL drive(IE something that comes CLOSE to the speed of light, relatively) time actually changes for those in the ship compared tot he galaxy at large.(ie 1 year on ship could be 100 years elsewhere). But we don't have the information, yet on how to manipulate or do said stuff.

In the same vein, though, we have found new methods of fuel using either existing sources(shale rock>gasoline) or new fuel sources(any kind of non fossil fuel gas/solar/wind/geo etc are all NEW energy sources). Sadly most of these are not "cost effective" so we rarely see them beyond demos, tests, or as curiosities. Once someone invents a way to get cheap fuel out of these sources, everything will change. In space, they've postulated using Hydrogen as a possible fuel source(being the most abundant gas currently known in our galaxy). I mean, Gas Giant? Yup lots of Hydrogen.

The thing that holds humans back isn't their capability to understand, it's our natural tendency to "be better than others," that does. Wars, Famines, Disease, Poverty, etc. will most likely follow us right up to the stars as well. We can't escape ourselves, no matter how hard we try.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: FleetFox on January 04, 2014, 06:04:48 pm
Well basically as Jeremy Riftkin points out, Hydrogen looks like the best bet for the future as Lt Anders just said. Also PTX was right in saying that Nuclear Fusion could be a big potential in the future. There is for sure many planets capable of harbouring life. Yes the chance is very small, but because there are billions of star systems in our galaxy, and with billions of galaxy's in the universe there is no chance there arn't any sentinel beings, sure they may not be carbon based but they might have other similarities :P
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: LordBerenger on January 04, 2014, 07:02:11 pm
I hate these cliché vegetarian human hating young adult/teen hipster my old friendgts
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Xant on January 04, 2014, 07:10:52 pm
Mankind is relatively limited too, with short lifespans, fragile bodies and small brains. We do have a peak and personally I dont think it's very far.
Short lifespans and fragile bodies mean nothing to mankind as a whole because we can record information and pass it on to next generations. As for small brains, that's debatable, and we only need big enough brains to create something that enhances our intelligence - which we very likely have.

Species that cannot manipulate objects wouldn't develop human-like intelligence in the first place.
What do you base that on?
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: [ptx] on January 04, 2014, 07:16:51 pm
That's how evolution works. We did need advanced enough intelligence to begin manipulating objects, but the physical ability to do so rewarded those with higher intelligence with better chances of survival, thus we evolved to be even more sophisticated?

Intelligence is evolutionary, it doesn't just appear out of nowhere.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Rumblood on January 04, 2014, 08:33:19 pm
There are a lot of things that we don't understand about intelligence, too many to make any absolute statements about our limitations. DNA in itself, even though we have mapped out the "genetic code", is still a very large mystery to us.
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/12/13/secret-second-code-found-hiding-within-human-dna/ (http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/12/13/secret-second-code-found-hiding-within-human-dna/)
We have found that DNA need not be passed directly from parent to child. It can be transducted from other sources.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transduction_%28genetics%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transduction_%28genetics%29)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10779482 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10779482)
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Extrapolating these findings to the 600,000 copies of L1 in the genome, we predict that the amount of DNA transduced by L1 represents approximately 1% of the genome, a fraction comparable with that occupied by exons.
So with humans living in close proximity as we do, it is possible that DNA exchanges can occur without a direct lineage, giving us an even greater ability to exchange useful genetic information.

We don't understand animal (and human) instincts, what they are, and where they come from. Some studies on children suggest that our ability for math is built right into our neurons. I've seen anecdotal evidence of this in my own son. At 4 years of age, he had been taught how to count, add, and subtract and basic fractions like 1/4 and 1/2, etc. But certainly not above that. Yet while playing a game called Monster Rancher, he could tell that after a battle the monster with 31 of 52 hit points left had a greater percentage than a monster with 68 of 115 hit points and announced the winner before it was displayed.
http://discovermagazine.com/2009/nov/17-the-brain-humanitys-other-basic-instinct-math#.Ushbs7QhTDg (http://discovermagazine.com/2009/nov/17-the-brain-humanitys-other-basic-instinct-math#.Ushbs7QhTDg)

In other words, it is very possible that the more we learn, the more we pass on in our DNA and so future generations are able to pick up and use this knowledge easier than their parents, reducing the amount of time that it takes to "learn" the further we advance.

My point is, don't presume to know how far our intelligence and our very structure for retaining information can take us.

For the religious, I believe that it is mandated that we expand into the stars. Certainly if one were to believe in a God, you should have a much greater faith in the ability of his creation to allow us to continue to grow as a species. In this, I believe that the very limited understanding of early humans limited the interpretation of two very old written passages.
1: Be fruitful and multiply and fill the Earth.
In their limited understanding, humans assumed "Earth" meant this planet, I choose to believe that it would refer to all Creation.
2: Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation. Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.
Rather than a story of events gone past, I choose to believe that this refers to what we are to do in the future. Build our own ark and fill it with the creatures and plants that we will need to survive and bring them with us as we multiply throughout creation.
So it is written, so shall it be done.  :idea:
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Xant on January 04, 2014, 10:18:56 pm
That's how evolution works. We did need advanced enough intelligence to begin manipulating objects, but the physical ability to do so rewarded those with higher intelligence with better chances of survival, thus we evolved to be even more sophisticated?

Intelligence is evolutionary, it doesn't just appear out of nowhere.
What. No, that is not how evolution works at all. Even if we humans did become more intelligent solely because we manipulated objects (HIGHLY debatable), that doesn't mean intelligence isn't needed for anything else. Intelligence helps EVERY aspect of survival and reproduction. Thus it has a fitness advantage for all species, whether they are capable of object manipulation or not....
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Kafein on January 04, 2014, 11:11:59 pm
What. No, that is not how evolution works at all. Even if we humans did become more intelligent solely because we manipulated objects (HIGHLY debatable), that doesn't mean intelligence isn't needed for anything else. Intelligence helps EVERY aspect of survival and reproduction. Thus it has a fitness advantage for all species, whether they are capable of object manipulation or not....

The usual argument is that being able to manipulate objects to a certain degree trains and rewards intelligence more, in turn favorising more dexterity, which forms a strong feedback cycle. There is some empirical evidence of this, as most intelligent species tend to be able to manipulate objects. Think parrots, elephants and apes. It is also quite clear that a physical ability for communication has a tremendous impact too. After all, we are the only species capable of emitting such a wide variety of different sounds with extreme precision.

Rumblood: to say that "the religious view" is that we have to colonise and grow is a very Christian-centric view. Not all religions push towards population growth. Societies that inhabited fragile environments such as many isolated Pacific islands learned to actively maintain zero population growth and limit their per-capita impact on their environment, sometimes via drastic measures such as forced suicides or killing every single pig. Ultimately, the entire Earth is not different, it can only support a limited amount of humans at any given per-capita impact (unless that impact becomes 0 or lower which is simply not possible).



About the space travel stuff, travelling at near lightspeed wouldn't take that much power and therefore fuel. This is empty space with no gravitational field, there is very little continuous force required to keep up your speed once near-lightspeed is acheived. But it would be stupidly long. The main energy problem would be to keep all the onboard equipment functioning during the entire trip. Now, if we find a way to put the whole solar system under a gigantic sphere and move everything inside, we would probably succeed given the huge amount of energy released by the Sun at any given moment. It's basically everything we have.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Xant on January 04, 2014, 11:51:09 pm
There's even more evidence that intelligence developed as much as it did because of our complex societies. Apes also back it up: usually, the larger the social group of the ape, the larger its brain. Sometimes the correlation is even 1:1.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Leshma on January 05, 2014, 12:42:38 am
Agree with what's said in OP. Like our tech very much. It's what differentiate us from other animals. You can train as much you want but you'll never beat grown up chimpanzee in a fair fight, our genetic "relative". But with a gun he's easy mode.

That colonel/general/whatever is just being honest, and prefer that over sugarcoating any day. But sugarcoating and faking is also something we perfected and we should be proud of it. Most animals fake to survive, but we're best at it.

We should continue to populate/ruin everything we touch because that's what we are. Not to serve nature and crap like that, for sure.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Rumblood on January 05, 2014, 01:29:32 am

Rumblood: to say that "the religious view" is that we have to colonise and grow is a very Christian-centric view.

It's a very Abrahamic point of view, which covers about 99.99% of the religious people on this forum. Good enough for guvmint work, good enough for here.

@Leshma - I see nothing to be proud of in having a segment of the human species who is so narcissistic as to have the need to invent an alien strawman to bash in order to be made to feel superior. Boy! That fictional character sure told that made-up alien species off didn't he? Woo!!!! Hooomans!!!
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Clockworkkiller on January 05, 2014, 01:46:05 am
I say fuck humans.

Let's all evolve into furries
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: zagibu on January 05, 2014, 01:59:22 am
My ass is already hairy enough to be part of a furry.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Christo on January 05, 2014, 03:11:54 am
I say fuck humans.

Let's all evolve into furries

Devolve, you mean?
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Oberyn on January 05, 2014, 01:21:54 pm
It's a very Abrahamic point of view, which covers about 99.99% of the religious people on this forum. Good enough for guvmint work, good enough for here.

@Leshma - I see nothing to be proud of in having a segment of the human species who is so narcissistic as to have the need to invent an alien strawman to bash in order to be made to feel superior. Boy! That fictional character sure told that made-up alien species off didn't he? Woo!!!! Hooomans!!!

I think you're confused. The quote in question was never said in the movie. The fictional alien species in the movie was actually used for exactly the opposite reason you are claiming. For self-loathing, self-flagellating emo hipsters to cry about how evil and destructive humanity/civilization is(while watching it in air-conditioned movie theaters of course, or in their home dvd players). I'm sure you'd love it.

And Leshma is probably being sarcastic, because he's one of these worthless cunts. Anyone who's ever had extended close contact with "nature" would never willingly "serve" it. There's a reason humanity spends so much time and effort circumventing nature. Because it is a massive fucking bitch. Natural=/=good, or right, or pure, or any of that ridiculous hippy bullshit. Naturalistic fallacy is like the go-to arguement for these people. Ultimately all the morons whining about humanity being a virus are just misanthropes. One can only wish they would heed their own gut instincts and off themselves, leaving more room for those who aren't filled with digusts for their own kind. Or at least try to live "naturally", which will have same outcome. But of course they are cowardly hypocrites so the most that will happen is some self-righteous rants on the internet before they continue to take advantage of all the "evil" things society provides for them.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: zagibu on January 05, 2014, 02:33:02 pm
There are stupid people on both sides of the conflict. Avatar isn't THAT bad, of course it's mostly romanticizing nature, but it also shows a few weaknesses of the ancient tribal culture, namely xenophobia and superstition.

But yeah, there are a lot of self-proclaimed saviors of nature that wouldn't last a week without electricity, central heating and processed food. This doesn't mean that everyone blaming humans for their greed, selfishness and short-term orientation is a fool.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Rumblood on January 05, 2014, 06:09:26 pm
I think you're confused. The quote in question was never said in the movie. The fictional alien species in the movie was actually used for exactly the opposite reason you are claiming. For self-loathing, self-flagellating emo hipsters to cry about how evil and destructive humanity/civilization is(while watching it in air-conditioned movie theaters of course, or in their home dvd players). I'm sure you'd love it.

I'm not confused at all. We are talking about the poster linked in the OP of this thread. Don't get confused yourself just because it was created from material from a movie  :idea:
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Kafein on January 05, 2014, 06:59:06 pm
This doesn't mean that everyone blaming humans for their greed, selfishness and short-term orientation is a fool.

The problem is that those messages tend to be thrown around without being correctly justified. The correct justification being a purely utilitarian one (we positively need to control the climate, keep endangered species alive and reduce our waste production because those things will mean trouble for us in the future). Too many times I've heard that kind of agenda being supported by random anthropomorphisations of unrelated stuff and nothing else. The most hilarous one I've heard was something like "we can't dump nuclear waste on the moon, we have to solve our own problems ourselves" oh yeah the moonians would be so pissed.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Leshma on January 05, 2014, 08:07:05 pm
And Leshma is probably being sarcastic, because he's one of these worthless cunts.

Leshma is too stupid to even make an attempt at sarcasm. Filled with misanthropy, fueled by jealousy. Lack of human qualities in one can make him/her truly pathetic self-centered and useless mass of organs and living tissue. Not even a cockroach, they can survive on their own. Hatred rising, plot thickens.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Tibe on January 05, 2014, 08:09:20 pm
I say fuck humans.

Let's all evolve into furries

You are one sick mofo...
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: zagibu on January 06, 2014, 12:18:29 am
The most hilarous one I've heard was something like "we can't dump nuclear waste on the moon, we have to solve our own problems ourselves" oh yeah the moonians would be so pissed.

Why the fuck would you dump nuclear waste on the moon when you can just shoot it out into the endless void of space?
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Moncho on January 06, 2014, 12:26:31 am
Why the fuck would you dump nuclear waste on the moon when you can just shoot it out into the endless void of space?
Have you not watched futurama?
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Clockworkkiller on January 06, 2014, 12:31:47 am
You are one sick mofo...

Thanks! :D :wink:
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Leshma on January 06, 2014, 12:44:13 am
Why the fuck would you dump nuclear waste on the moon when you can just shoot it out into the endless void of space?

People don't understand boundless space, they prefer something that has limits such as objects in space, in this case our moon.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Rumblood on January 06, 2014, 01:54:48 am
Why the fuck would you dump nuclear waste on the moon when you can just shoot it out into the endless void of space?

You can't harvest the remaining energy if you shoot it off into space.

http://www.nei.org/Issues-Policy/Nuclear-Waste-Management/Recycling-Used-Nuclear-Fuel (http://www.nei.org/Issues-Policy/Nuclear-Waste-Management/Recycling-Used-Nuclear-Fuel)
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: zagibu on January 06, 2014, 11:15:26 am
Hmmm, interesting. We could establish a prison on moon and force the inmates to recycle our nuclear waste. Might also create romantic moon illumination during one of the probably frequent riots.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Nightmare798 on January 06, 2014, 11:20:34 am
Agreed. The ending was so fucking lame like: huehuehue lets pick a few nades, bows and arrows, and bunch of animals and kick out the invaders who sport mechs and gunships, all equiped with top notch weaponry that surpasses ours by couple of tens thousands of years.

The most ridiculous thing is that nothing had to happen if the natives werent so retarded.


This movie is a silly fairy tale. nicely made though (in graphics department ofc).
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Nightmare798 on January 06, 2014, 11:23:22 am
Doesn't fit very well at all in Avatar. The way those aliens are living is 1000000000x better than how humanity in the movie is living.

I lol´d.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Xant on January 06, 2014, 11:35:29 am
Glory be, Nightmare is unmuted once more. But for how long, this time?
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Kafein on January 06, 2014, 11:38:00 am
Why the fuck would you dump nuclear waste on the moon when you can just shoot it out into the endless void of space?

Because putting them on the moon requires less energy than sending them in Solar orbit, and because it is also safer than further clogging Terran orbit.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Tibe on January 06, 2014, 03:56:01 pm
Agreed. The ending was so fucking lame like: huehuehue lets pick a few nades, bows and arrows, and bunch of animals and kick out the invaders who sport mechs and gunships, all equiped with top notch weaponry that surpasses ours by couple of tens thousands of years.

The most ridiculous thing is that nothing had to happen if the natives werent so retarded.


This movie is a silly fairy tale. nicely made though (in graphics department ofc).

Well they won didnt they.
Something definately had to happen. Humans were destroying their shit and would have probably enslaved them.
Ofcourse it's a fairy tale. That was the point. It wasnt a documentary you know.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Overdriven on January 06, 2014, 04:05:15 pm
It wasnt a documentary you know.

It wasn't?  :|
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Tibe on January 06, 2014, 04:14:10 pm
I figured the blue alien sexscene and a planet that somehow commands all of its living beings telepathically made it pretty oblivious...
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Nightmare798 on January 06, 2014, 04:43:03 pm
Well they won didnt they.
Something definately had to happen. Humans were destroying their shit and would have probably enslaved them.
Ofcourse it's a fairy tale. That was the point. It wasnt a documentary you know.

With that fairy tale bit, I meant that the story, and especially the ending, was pretty naive.
I actually wished to see some mech pwnage goodness, but they ruined it and went with  "humans are weak and evil and furries are better so they win,, theme.

And that sex scene was really stupid. I mean what the hell? But honestly, I dont see the point in those scenes in movies altogether.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Rumblood on January 06, 2014, 09:56:47 pm
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Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Leshma on January 06, 2014, 10:00:50 pm
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Only in Murica. Rest of the world don't watch Nickelodeon.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Rumblood on January 06, 2014, 10:04:15 pm
Only in Murica. Rest of the world don't watch Nickelodeon.

The rest of the world missed one of the best animated series ever created for family viewing. Great for kids, great for adults.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Nightmare798 on January 06, 2014, 10:05:29 pm
The rest of the world missed one of the best animated series ever created for family viewing. Great for kids, great for adults.

Idk man. Those paintjobs on people looked pretty odd.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Clockworkkiller on January 06, 2014, 10:26:55 pm
Overrated shit movie. Don't know why everyone went so ape shit over it.


The mechs and the Human tech were all pretty badass though.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Rumblood on January 06, 2014, 10:33:17 pm
Idk man. Those paintjobs on people looked pretty odd.

Says infamous Sith lord  :lol:
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Tibe on January 06, 2014, 11:00:37 pm
Only in Murica. Rest of the world don't watch Nickelodeon.

Screw you man(woman?). A lot of non-muricans watched it. Including myself. It is a really good cartoon. Many characters were quite complex and very interesting. Even the sidecharacters like avatar Roku, who had that badass japanese sensei feeling to him whenever he explained something.
Ignore that horribly recorded from TV thing, there was no proper vid of this:
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Nessaj on January 07, 2014, 10:58:18 am
This discussion reminds me of Terra Firma from the Mass Effect universe.


"Earth First!"
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Kafein on January 07, 2014, 11:57:12 am
Omg they have Panos in Mass Effect
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Xant on January 07, 2014, 02:30:53 pm
Omg they have Panos in Mass Effect
wat?

How does that guy resemble Panos at all?
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Kafein on January 07, 2014, 03:36:30 pm
wat?

How does that guy resemble Panos at all?

Ok he has no mohawk. End of list of differences
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Mala on January 09, 2014, 07:51:36 pm
Only in Murica. Rest of the world don't watch Nickelodeon.

Well, this ist not true in both cases.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Nightmare798 on January 10, 2014, 11:15:31 am
Says infamous Sith lord  :lol:

Hey, at least I got a cool cape and the power of lighting at my fingertips :D
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Xant on January 10, 2014, 11:38:05 am
Hey, at least I got a cool cape and the power of lighting at my fingertips :D
Lighting or illumination is the deliberate use of light to achieve a practical or aesthetic effect.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Nightmare798 on January 10, 2014, 11:57:41 am
Lighting or illumination is the deliberate use of light to achieve a practical or aesthetic effect.

Lightning is also a focused stream of electrical energy. Figures.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Xant on January 10, 2014, 12:59:59 pm
Lightning is also a focused stream of electrical energy. Figures.
What do you mean "also"? This is the first time you mention lightning.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Nightmare798 on January 10, 2014, 01:29:44 pm
What do you mean "also"? This is the first time you mention lightning.


Why dont you do me and youself a favor, and go school someone else?
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Xant on January 10, 2014, 01:44:18 pm
Well, I just thought I'd help you out a bit. It's not like you can afford real schooling.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Nightmare798 on January 10, 2014, 02:38:39 pm
Well, I just thought I'd help you out a bit. It's not like you can afford real schooling.

Oh look! A grammar chocolate chip cookie!

Guess you dont have anything else to do with your pitiful existence than to correct peoples grammar on a video game forums.

Yeah that must like really suck pal.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Kafein on January 10, 2014, 03:25:05 pm
I think he feels insulted in his inability to write correctly.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Xant on January 10, 2014, 03:43:49 pm
Oh look! A grammar chocolate chip cookie!

Guess you dont have anything else to do with your pitiful existence than to correct peoples grammar on a video game forums.

Yeah that must like really suck pal.
People's*
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Rumblood on January 10, 2014, 05:05:44 pm
Oh look! A grammar chocolate chip cookie!

Guess you dont have anything else to do with your pitiful existence than to correct peoples grammar on a video game forums.

Yeah that must like really suck pal.

It isn't grammar, it is spelunking.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Hirlok on January 10, 2014, 06:17:47 pm
Movie indeed was shit - mostly because of the inability of the creators to imagine a really different society.

A tribe of warriors and hunters, jealous, unfree monogamy, violent, driven by "honor" and competition... same bullshit, just with a little new age sugar on top.

Regarding OP: stuff like that causes me and many other souls to go into exile - future incarnations will happen on a different planet, more likely a different universe. The basic rules and principles of this one are fundamentally flawed and disgusting. Opensource programming project "Earth": fail. Reset.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Leesin on January 10, 2014, 07:03:33 pm
Movie indeed was shit - mostly because of the inability of the creators to imagine a really different society.

A tribe of warriors and hunters, jealous, unfree monogamy, violent, driven by "honor" and competition... same bullshit, just with a little new age sugar on top.

Regarding OP: stuff like that causes me and many other souls to go into exile - future incarnations will happen on a different planet, more likely a different universe. The basic rules and principles of this one are fundamentally flawed and disgusting. Opensource programming project "Earth": fail. Reset.

It's basically just the Europeans killing off native americans story but in space.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Nightmare798 on January 10, 2014, 07:53:09 pm
I think he feels insulted in by his inability to write correctly.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Kafein on January 10, 2014, 08:43:07 pm
Fixed.

Well thanks, I wish to improve my English so I don't go apeshit on people that correct me on the Internet.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Lt_Anders on January 10, 2014, 11:32:02 pm
Well thanks, I wish to improve my English so I don't go apeshit on people that correct me on the Internet.

^ technically incorrect.

But, informal writing doesn't matter on technical corrections. :lol:

English is probably amongst the most bullshit langauges for Grammerie(Yes I spelled it this way on purpose, look it up  :wink:) in the world. Actually, I think that wasn't as common as I wanted, anyways, the only time you should correct grammer, words, or otherwise, is when it's your own works. Otherwise, it has no effect on you and is nothing more than a "Ha!" that is played like one plays his Magicka cards.

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Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Xant on January 10, 2014, 11:42:12 pm
I looked it up, but couldn't find "langauges" in any dictionary.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Lt_Anders on January 10, 2014, 11:46:03 pm
I looked it up, but couldn't find "langauges" in any dictionary.

Obviously not hard enough (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=langauge). :oops:
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Kafein on January 11, 2014, 12:13:55 am
^ technically incorrect.

But, informal writing doesn't matter on technical corrections. :lol:

English is probably amongst the most bullshit langauges for Grammerie(Yes I spelled it this way on purpose, look it up  :wink:) in the world. Actually, I think that wasn't as common as I wanted, anyways, the only time you should correct grammer, words, or otherwise, is when it's your own works. Otherwise, it has no effect on you and is nothing more than a "Ha!" that is played like one plays his Magicka cards.

No. I wish to be able to write correct high level English naturally and reading/writing correct English helps immensely, just as reading/writing informal English actually deteriorates one's ability to write the correct form.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Xant on January 11, 2014, 12:24:23 am
Internet can be really bad for that. Words like "alot", "grammer" (as Anders demonstrates), "mispell" and so on and so forth are everywhere, and you can be led to believe they're correct because so many people use them.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Lt_Anders on January 11, 2014, 12:27:44 am
No. I wish to be able to write correct high level English naturally and reading/writing correct English helps immensely, just as reading/writing informal English actually deteriorates one's ability to write the correct form.

Point still stands. Correcting other works doesn't help your sense of English(such as the case of Xant's doing). If you correct other works for your own advancement, it needs to be done on a regular, daily schedule like a job.

Correcting your own work, is INFINITELY superior to correcting other works precisely because of the fact that, as a race, we humans tend to learn from our own mistakes. Now, we might say this is wisdom, and many agree. Some of the older philosophers have said that wisdom is learning from others mistakes, though. So, perhaps it is good for you, perhaps it isn't. I personally find that for application of language, your mistakes are more important. In terms of building and mathematics learning from others is much better than learning from your own failures.

Also, concerning your Langauge thing. We tend to "pass over" things like that in general reading due to the fact that our brains are smarter than everything but...our dicks :wink:
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Xant on January 11, 2014, 12:56:36 am
So Anders goes from "point still stands, correcting other works (sic) doesn't help your sense of English" to "perhaps it is good for you, perhaps it isn't". Convincing!
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Lt_Anders on January 11, 2014, 01:23:51 am
So Anders goes from "point still stands, correcting other works (sic) doesn't help your sense of English" to "perhaps it is good for you, perhaps it isn't". Convincing!

The best debater leaves it up for the other person to decide rather than try and force his views on the other. :wink:

Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Rumblood on January 11, 2014, 02:26:45 am
This isn't about grammar, it could possibly be about spelling, but mostly it is about using the wrong word and changing the meaning of the sentence and the paragraph.

For example:

I have pains. Maybe tomorrow I will do a portrait. (Really? You are going to have a portrait taken while having pains? Weird.)

I have paints. Maybe tomorrow I will see the doctor. (Hmm, what will the doctor do with your paints? Or did you just segue there?)
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Xant on January 11, 2014, 09:18:37 am
The best debater leaves it up for the other person to decide rather than try and force his views on the other. :wink:
No. That's what the worst debaters do.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: Kafein on January 11, 2014, 10:40:54 am
Point still stands. Correcting other works doesn't help your sense of English(such as the case of Xant's doing). If you correct other works for your own advancement, it needs to be done on a regular, daily schedule like a job.

Correcting your own work, is INFINITELY superior to correcting other works precisely because of the fact that, as a race, we humans tend to learn from our own mistakes. Now, we might say this is wisdom, and many agree. Some of the older philosophers have said that wisdom is learning from others mistakes, though. So, perhaps it is good for you, perhaps it isn't. I personally find that for application of language, your mistakes are more important. In terms of building and mathematics learning from others is much better than learning from your own failures.

Also, concerning your Langauge thing. We tend to "pass over" things like that in general reading due to the fact that our brains are smarter than everything but...our dicks :wink:

I varies from person to person, but everybody is influenced by what they read, and will write in a way that is similar to that. This is not a conscious learning effort, hence why it's also the easiest way to learn when what you read is written correctly and the easiest way to forget correct spelling and grammar when it is not. It's about keeping what I read as clean as possible.
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: BASNAK on January 13, 2014, 12:24:41 pm
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15000 miles? who the hell are you talking to that's 15000 miles away? :D
Title: Re: Avatar - Shit movie, only decent character with the best quote
Post by: BASNAK on January 13, 2014, 01:25:53 pm
15000 miles? who the hell are you talking to that's 15000 miles away? :D

Aliens living under the surface in the Mantle. :D