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Title: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four? **** SECOND ROUND VOTING ****
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on December 17, 2013, 10:18:33 pm
Alright you arrogant dickbags, we all know that Americans are constantly concerned with winners and losers, so just admit it... who won NA Strategus Four?

*INCOMING POLL*

also please vote in the sister poll to this one:

http://forum.melee.org/strategus-general-discussion/who-was-the-biggest-jerkoff-dunce-of-na-strategus-four/
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?
Post by: Relit on December 17, 2013, 10:22:30 pm
In terms of battles won, wars fought to completion, and land expansion/sphere of influence.

1:FCC
2:LCO
3:Fimbulvetr/CC
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?
Post by: Rikthor on December 17, 2013, 10:26:29 pm
1. Dylan
2. Dylan
3. Dylan
4. Dylan
5. Dylan
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?
Post by: Artyem on December 17, 2013, 10:27:31 pm
It's a stalemate / undecided.

Although, LCO probably comes in first place for turning their 2 NA fiefs into 21, they survived against VE when it was at it's strongest, and probably made more money through trade than anybody else (I could be wrong, FCC made a shit ton from trading as well).

FCC of course comes in second place, but it's a very close second.  They have more people in their strategus faction than anybody else, won more sieges, and initiated a huge portion of the battles in NA.

But then there's the REALM OF THE GOBBLIN KING, who surpasses the ranking entirely.  Daruvian started that shit as a joke and turned it into one of the largest factions in NA.

EDIT:

forget that ranking entirely, cup clan won strat.

Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?
Post by: Maple_Syrup on December 17, 2013, 10:35:48 pm
Maple_Syrup Nomar Defense Won strat
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?
Post by: Gmnotutoo on December 17, 2013, 10:37:38 pm
No I won, I took out Auphelia quickly and everyone didn't have to endure a years worth of creepy rp.
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?
Post by: Snufalufagus on December 17, 2013, 10:38:23 pm
I only strat for xp so i guess i win.
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on December 17, 2013, 10:38:50 pm
voted for free peasants of fisdnar
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on December 17, 2013, 10:40:30 pm
voted for FCC for their ability to mobilize the best war machines, and for initiating the most battles.  Can't really say who "won" in the proper sense of who's in the best standing at this stage in the game, I think there's a lot of relatively balanced powers right about now. 

I'd be able to properly compare "end game" numbers of the factions if there wasn't a #WTFWTF faction that is more powerful than chadz website:

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After further review of the #'s, I'd say LCO won as far as "end game" standing with fiefs controlled.  Feel free to correct me if my #'s are wrong.

Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?
Post by: vespasian on December 17, 2013, 10:42:30 pm
FCC n friends Vs. Occitan n friends = ?

? = winner of strat 4?
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?
Post by: njames89 on December 17, 2013, 10:43:44 pm
I had a great time playing this campaign. Really got the hang of strategus here. Considering where we started in the realm and the trials we surpassed I am very pleased with our holdings at the end of the round. I would say our campaign was a win. Albeit a shorter campaign than many of the groups here.

Being such a proud King I couldn't help but vote for my men who through this strategus displayed much honor, tenacity, and ferocity. As a whole I thank each and every one you for your service to our cause.

I must however also tip my hat to the FCC and LCO the two clear superpowers of the realm. Its been truly wonderful to be tossed around in your proxy wars :P. As well as to the GOBBLIN King for what was easily the most entertaining campaign to follow.

Looking forward to a holiday bloodbath before a nice break and the next round begins!
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?
Post by: miggy on December 17, 2013, 10:44:45 pm
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Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?/OFFICIAL STRATEGUS 4 DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Chosen1 on December 17, 2013, 11:33:08 pm
Werfried's Peasant Battalion best NA, and not even in the poll? my old friend
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?/OFFICIAL STRATEGUS 4 DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on December 17, 2013, 11:49:25 pm
If anyone was curious about how many troops my faction has under it's control, the honest answer is:

100,000 troops

I don't think anyone knew we had quite that many troops... but we do!
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?
Post by: cup457 on December 17, 2013, 11:55:11 pm

EDIT:

forget that ranking entirely, cup clan won strat.
#NovAmereSwag
CUP CLAN BEST CLAN
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?/OFFICIAL STRATEGUS 4 DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: BaleOhay on December 18, 2013, 12:00:22 am
The order depends how how you want to measure I guess but here are my reasons for the FCC


We have less fiefs at the moment but that was due to us giving them away not losing them in battle.

We took out the most factions and won the most wars and cities/castles thru combat

Add to that we did not lose a single war. Even when the entire map ( I am aware the entire map, just felt that way) was against us we turtled and the enemy lost faith and we walked away. We were not even in any danger of losing a single defensible position.

We caused the most people to quit
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?/OFFICIAL STRATEGUS 4 DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Lt_Anders on December 18, 2013, 12:12:03 am
Screw You Daruvian. Longest Independant, 1 man clan in strat History, ever: DL.

I win strat, but you didn't put my name up there, so I refuse to vote in biased, shit poll.
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?/OFFICIAL STRATEGUS 4 DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on December 18, 2013, 12:27:59 am
I'm going to foolishly claim that the FPF won NA strat because we invaded EU and held our territory until the wipe, huzzah!!!

Totally bullshit reason is obviously correct!
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?/OFFICIAL STRATEGUS 4 DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: BaleOhay on December 18, 2013, 12:51:48 am
Also we win because we have Joe
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?/OFFICIAL STRATEGUS 4 DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Jack1 on December 18, 2013, 12:57:10 am
we all lost. there goes hours days of our lives that we have no chance to reclaim.
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?/OFFICIAL STRATEGUS 4 DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Turkhammer on December 18, 2013, 01:34:41 am
we all lost. there goes hours days of our lives that we have no chance to reclaim.

Did you enjoy it?  If so it's not wasted time.
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?/OFFICIAL STRATEGUS 4 DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Smoothrich on December 18, 2013, 03:11:48 am

Add to that we did not lose a single war.

You fought a war to defend BIRD CLAN from Hero Party. Yet BIRD CLAN got wiped from the game (setting up LCO's return to NA, as according to my Master Plan),  Hero Party destroyed all of your armies that you sent, and FCC left a disgraced shell of a clan from the desert that took months to recover their morale and logistics.

As far as I'm concerned, the only reason FCC, or any clan that I ended up at war with in this (or prior) strats survived, is because I allowed it.
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?/OFFICIAL STRATEGUS 4 DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on December 18, 2013, 04:15:23 am
Once the poll reaches 100 votes I will be making a follow up thread. Just letting everyone know.
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?/OFFICIAL STRATEGUS 4 DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: MURDERTRON on December 18, 2013, 04:23:02 am
The real answer is Jake.  From State Farm.
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?/OFFICIAL STRATEGUS 4 DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: MURDERTRON on December 18, 2013, 04:53:49 am
Screw You Daruvian. Longest Independant, 1 man clan in strat History, ever: DL.

I win strat, but you didn't put my name up there, so I refuse to vote in biased, shit poll.

You can't win Strat with such a weak chin.
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?/OFFICIAL STRATEGUS 4 DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: Lt_Anders on December 18, 2013, 04:55:07 am
You can't win Strat with such a weak chin.

What's a Chin?
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?/OFFICIAL STRATEGUS 4 DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: BaleOhay on December 18, 2013, 05:00:08 am
You fought a war to defend BIRD CLAN from Hero Party. Yet BIRD CLAN got wiped from the game (setting up LCO's return to NA, as according to my Master Plan),  Hero Party destroyed all of your armies that you sent, and FCC left a disgraced shell of a clan from the desert that took months to recover their morale and logistics.

As far as I'm concerned, the only reason FCC, or any clan that I ended up at war with in this (or prior) strats survived, is because I allowed it.

We were not at war at that point. We sent 2-3 guys down to help bird clan out and realized they did not care about it and sold their fiefs to occitan. So we stopped helping. The war we had ended when you cheated us out of your city. That was a real FCC mobilization
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four? **** SECOND ROUND VOTING ****
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on December 18, 2013, 07:56:12 am
I narrowed down the poll options to 5 based on what the poll and my personal considerations deemed to be the most reasonable choices, so we can have less votes going to waste on stuff like HoC.
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four? **** SECOND ROUND VOTING ****
Post by: Duster on December 18, 2013, 08:10:53 am
I think we know where Kesh's vote is going

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Happy holidays!
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four? **** SECOND ROUND VOTING ****
Post by: Keshian on December 18, 2013, 08:14:08 am
I think we know where Kesh's vote is going

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Happy holidays!

Lol, did you really save an image and then look for it and dig it up 8 months later just to try and put me down at the end of strat?  Really???  I feel like you just insulted yourself worse than i ever could.

P.S. My vote was actually also for Free Peasants of Fisdnar for successfully invading EU, but even though they had 3rd most votes they were taken out for CC.

Merry christmas!
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four?/OFFICIAL STRATEGUS 4 DISCUSSION THREAD
Post by: MURDERTRON on December 18, 2013, 08:14:57 am
What's a Chin?

Something you're lacking.
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four? **** SECOND ROUND VOTING ****
Post by: ArysOakheart on December 18, 2013, 08:17:24 am
The Free Peasants were in third place when this poll ended, the Free Peasants obviously should be in this tier.
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four? **** SECOND ROUND VOTING ****
Post by: Duster on December 18, 2013, 08:28:57 am
Lol, did you really save an image and then look for it and dig it up 8 months later just to try and put me down at the end of strat?  Really???  I feel like you just insulted yourself worse than i ever could.

P.S. My vote was actually also for Free Peasants of Fisdnar for successfully invading EU, but even though they had 3rd most votes they were taken out for CC.

Merry christmas!

I actually just found it while looking at old HP threads for something, but it's cute that you're so quick to flatter yourself. Also who's putting you down, it's only a screenshot of things you said

P.S. voted FCC

P.P.S. Happy Hannukuh Kesh, you fabulous Jew.
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four? **** SECOND ROUND VOTING ****
Post by: arowaine on December 18, 2013, 08:41:38 am
I think we know where Kesh's vote is going

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Happy holidays!

KESH SUCK IT UP MAN

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WE WON FAIR AND SQUARE WITH LESS MERC AND AS ATTACKER AND YOU KNOW WHAT WE MANAGE TO TAKE A CASTLE FIRST WAVE GG GF SON!

ps: we are the worst remenber folk!

I AM NOW A TRUE AMERICAN
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four? **** SECOND ROUND VOTING ****
Post by: Dach on December 18, 2013, 10:35:24 am
Yep had voted FPoF, your poll blow Gobblin King  :|
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four? **** SECOND ROUND VOTING ****
Post by: Teeth on December 18, 2013, 10:53:32 am
FCC were the life of the party weren't they?
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four? **** SECOND ROUND VOTING ****
Post by: Lethwin Far Seeker on December 18, 2013, 02:10:07 pm
I vote Les Chevaliers de Occitan.  Not sure on the fief count compared to FCC but in all battles that I participated with or against them they seemed to be by far the most organized fighting force on the field and that's what wins it in my book.
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four? **** SECOND ROUND VOTING ****
Post by: Keshian on December 18, 2013, 02:28:06 pm
FCC were the life of the party weren't they?

yeah, occitan was inactive for a year after doing a bunch of castle defenses and buying most of their fiefs with the strat silver brought with them from EU from when they were part of the UIF.  Then at the very end they had their first successful city/castle attack taking a city from a not very active faction in a 6 am battle where only 20 people showed up on defense versus 35 partly because one of the mercs on their side went on the other side's ts early on and said he was in the faction defending it and that it had no gear and was not a real fight and mercs should switch sides (most of the eus didnt know him and many switched sides believing his lies),  (Correction - There was one castle they did take before where the defender only had automatic peasant gear). 

The battle arowaine posted was regarding a battle started after end of strat was announced - I dont think anyone cares enough at this point to make any post-announcement battles have any meaning - mostly there to burn tickets for xp (only 3 tkov even showed up for that fight, though it was cool to ave a nice chinese presence - finally get a chance to get in some primetime na battles)

I know my opinion is biased obviously compared to a lot of the neutral voters who we fought at one time or another this strat (occitan has only fought tkov and its former incarnation velucan empire other than a few skirmishes against us culminating with us flag capping their only castle in the north with 7K troops in the first attack).  But since I can't vote for free peasants of fisdnar, the true heroes of NA, I think FCC more than occitan deserves it - unless the vote goes for who played a trading game the entire iteration of strategus.  We've taken by force half again as many fiefs as they have ever owned (almost 1/3rd of the fiefs on the NA map at one time or another was taken by us later to be sold for more troops to fight some more). 

Since taking that castle arowaine has repeatedly told FCC leadership he surrenders and anytime it looked like we might attack him he would hop on our ts and remind us we were at peace.  Any of the other 3 choices would be better than occitan for this - CC and Gobblin King were both very active factions that accomplished a lot - unless we are voting for least active faction on the map who accomplishes most of their stuff after strat has already been declared ended.  I really dont want to start next strat where the "winner" is whoever can go afk and just sit in their castles and cities the longest encouraging that form of weak playing in the future.


Lethwin - if you look at my quote below - I think greasy sage would vote for us in that respect.
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four? **** SECOND ROUND VOTING ****
Post by: arowaine on December 18, 2013, 04:37:29 pm
yeah, occitan was inactive for a year after doing a bunch of castle defenses and buying most of their fiefs with the strat silver brought with them from EU from when they were part of the UIF.  Then at the very end they had their first successful city/castle attack taking a city from a not very active faction in a 6 am battle where only 20 people showed up on defense versus 35 partly because one of the mercs on their side went on the other side's ts early on and said he was in the faction defending it and that it had no gear and was not a real fight and mercs should switch sides (most of the eus didnt know him and many switched sides believing his lies),  (Correction - There was one castle they did take before where the defender only had automatic peasant gear). 

The battle arowaine posted was regarding a battle started after end of strat was announced - I dont think anyone cares enough at this point to make any post-announcement battles have any meaning - mostly there to burn tickets for xp (only 3 tkov even showed up for that fight, though it was cool to ave a nice chinese presence - finally get a chance to get in some primetime na battles)

I know my opinion is biased obviously compared to a lot of the neutral voters who we fought at one time or another this strat (occitan has only fought tkov and its former incarnation velucan empire other than a few skirmishes against us culminating with us flag capping their only castle in the north with 7K troops in the first attack).  But since I can't vote for free peasants of fisdnar, the true heroes of NA, I think FCC more than occitan deserves it - unless the vote goes for who played a trading game the entire iteration of strategus.  We've taken by force half again as many fiefs as they have ever owned (almost 1/3rd of the fiefs on the NA map at one time or another was taken by us later to be sold for more troops to fight some more). 

Since taking that castle arowaine has repeatedly told FCC leadership he surrenders and anytime it looked like we might attack him he would hop on our ts and remind us we were at peace.  Any of the other 3 choices would be better than occitan for this - CC and Gobblin King were both very active factions that accomplished a lot - unless we are voting for least active faction on the map who accomplishes most of their stuff after strat has already been declared ended.  I really dont want to start next strat where the "winner" is whoever can go afk and just sit in their castles and cities the longest encouraging that form of weak playing in the future.


Lethwin - if you look at my quote below - I think greasy sage would vote for us in that respect.

will i prefer call black compagny crusader of acre remnant brd bs unicorn hg and all other instead of fcc won strat cause fcc is no more or maybe more everyone in na crpg

pw: i knew you would find a reason that we didnt win that into a fair figth so its ok i forgive you kesh maybe one day God will redem your soual! i hope for you :)
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four? **** SECOND ROUND VOTING ****
Post by: UnholyRolyPoly on December 18, 2013, 04:59:01 pm
will i prefer call black compagny crusader of acre remnant brd bs unicorn hg and all other instead of fcc won strat cause fcc is no more or maybe more everyone in na crpg

pw: i knew you would find a reason that we didnt win that into a fair figth so its ok i forgive you kesh maybe one day God will redem your soual! i hope for you :)

Yeah... the two guys we had that played strat REALLY made things unfair for you Arrowaine.  I'm crying inside reading your sob story. 
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four? **** SECOND ROUND VOTING ****
Post by: Bohannon on December 18, 2013, 05:04:07 pm
As an EU player,

Of course Fuck It Dude, Let's Go Bowling and if they would create a new faction, Shut The Fuck Up Donny, i'll always serve them.
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four? **** SECOND ROUND VOTING ****
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on December 18, 2013, 06:19:38 pm
FCC and LCO tied, I guess. We got better kdr, I think, but LCO's got more fiefs?

No winners here.
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four? **** SECOND ROUND VOTING ****
Post by: BaleOhay on December 18, 2013, 06:35:05 pm
Joe we had plenty more fiefs which we sold or gave away freely. The game was about winning wars (which we did) not holding land.
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four? **** SECOND ROUND VOTING ****
Post by: Jona on December 18, 2013, 06:46:23 pm
1) FCC and LCO... tough to pick a winner here. Really wish we had at least a 1 month warning before the end of strat. Woulda wanted to see the inevitable shit show that would have ensued should they have finally declared all out war on each other. Most of strat was directly influenced from these 2 rivals.. friends of FCC vs friends of LCO.

2) FPF cuz invading EU n shit.

3) CC for taking on a larger faction (respect) but then going after weaklings small factions (respect lost) / the old VE since it was kickass.

4) Hosp for good effort. Unfortunately you guys lost some steam as strat became more and more gay. Only put VE above you guys cuz bias and we were active slightly longer than you guys.
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four? **** SECOND ROUND VOTING ****
Post by: MURDERTRON on December 18, 2013, 08:44:53 pm
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Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four? **** SECOND ROUND VOTING ****
Post by: Deltah on December 18, 2013, 10:34:28 pm
I hate to say it, but FCC wins this strat. They were pretty well organized and I want to say they had the most active members.  They did kind of beat back virtually everyone else on the map. They vassalized and absorbed the most factions as well. Not to mention Kesh's stellar dedication to the game that kind of makes me cringe. I'm a 19 year old high school graduate and I have all the free time in the world and that guy makes me look like a full time college student pulling three jobs. FCC played to win, and they simply let nothing stop them. If you opposed them, you were not only in for some of the gayest and drawn out fights the game can handle, but you were mercilessly drilled with propaganda and mud slinging as well. On top of that, they had the best merc pool in existence. With ultra my old friendlord 2hand game mechanic abusing macro spammers like firebus and cyranule, and excellent shielders like matey, fighting them was a bitch. They played to win, and so they won.

A close second is Occitan for being the only people who could truly stand up to FCC, and not stoop down to their level of dickheadery.
They were simply well organized and legitimately fun to fight for. Arowaine truly is a loveable guy and I wish that we had gotten to know him sooner than we did. A true American indeed.

Third is CC, because I'm a biased asshole.
The Ravens are the most organized and honorable faction on strat, and their players are all a bunch of respectful and amiable people to be around.
Frisia is a lot better organized than they let on, and they are easily one of the most competent and autonomous of the strat factions. Also, Jack1 was simply the best strat merc ever.
Dracul grew a lot this strat, and thanks to Artyem's leadership, we made something of ourselves. Yes we did have a metric fuckton of gold, but honestly that was just us playing the stock market. It technically wasn't glitched or douped, and the dev's didn't have a problem with it, so quit your bitching already. We won the lottery, plain and simple.
Yes, we did attack some chinamen, and we had a blast. We went in thinking we were going to get our asses kicked, and ended up getting 13k troops out if it, which didn't replace half of what we lost to the FCC conflict.
We then took two fiefs from the WFA because we could. Bitch up and down all you want. We expanded our territory by fucking over weaker peoples. It's a fucking video game and if you say that you wouldn't have done the same then you either couldn't have done it or you are a closet hypocrite. Take the moral high-ground all you want, it just makes you a better target for my artillery. War isn't won through honor, it's determined by how far you are willing to go to give your enemies the dicking.

In fourth place is the goblin horde. Daruvian proved yet again that it's not hard to rally up a bunch of autists and set them towards a common goal. He got a lot of assistance from us and others, and therefore was able to march about the lands of calradia and dick over a bunch of inactive factions with full plate and space jam. He threatened us a few times, even though we gave him a ton of free shit just because we believed in his cause. Either way, he had a strangely effective fighting force under his belt. He's not the hero that strategus needs, he's the hero that this strat deserved.

From my very limited view of strat, everyone else was basically inactive, tiny, or had their head stuck so far up their own ass that they could eat breakfast twice before it got to their intestines.

tl;dr dicks dicks dicks
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four? **** SECOND ROUND VOTING ****
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on December 18, 2013, 11:42:45 pm
See, my opinion is that I could have shitted on CC if I wanted to, so I put myself in third place.
Title: Re: Who "Won" NA Strategus Four? **** SECOND ROUND VOTING ****
Post by: Chosen1 on December 19, 2013, 02:00:37 am
Ultimately, the winner of strat is whoever wastes their life more and/or gays their way to victory.