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Title: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Butan on December 17, 2013, 05:41:40 am
Map split at strat 4 end announcement:
Each faction is labeled once over his headquarter


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Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Butan on December 17, 2013, 05:42:29 am
Region statistical balance:

EU:
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From most to least owned fiefs:

Top 5:
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Top 6-10:
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Top 11-20:
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Top 21 to last (31th) standing faction:
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Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Butan on December 17, 2013, 05:53:01 am
Strategus battles and heroes:


Strat round 4 overall battle statistics:
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Heroes:
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Character Page of the Strategus heroes:

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Top 11-25:
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Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Kirbyy on December 17, 2013, 06:09:12 am
Holy shit this is really good.  I don't know anything about EU, but nice job!
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 17, 2013, 06:20:22 am
dat Druzhina deathblob.
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: ArysOakheart on December 17, 2013, 07:39:43 am
That pink area for Fisdnar....should be at least three times bigger!
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Dach on December 17, 2013, 09:31:18 am
Congratz Arys, you're clearly THE winner of this Strategus even with the Dev against you!  :D
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: GRANDMOM on December 17, 2013, 09:41:35 am
Butan - a very nice job!

Kalmar top 5 - makes an old Granny wanna cry on someones shoulder, proud of her magnificent ladz!  :cry:
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: GRANDMOM on December 17, 2013, 09:59:34 am
Congratulations to the winners - its hard to pic someone out depending on how you calculate - but if you feel like a winner you are :)

These factions/persons were the ones that during my time in strat did something awesome or cool or just important for strat (from my point of view):

Quincies: managing to take/hold and keep that area without ever going to war and staying totally neutral - never thought that would have worked. The ability to hold secret deals and staying true and exact to any deals they made - proffessionals guys in my eyes.

Heskeytime: allways an opinion in every matter in the forum, allways hilariously funny when posting, and managing to do what he did together with Vermillion with his bare two hands was not bad at all - ending up in a city.

Wessex: Osiris, your wessex faction of one man was fun to follow - some good battles and some great forum threads - impressive

DRZ: Among all the great stuff you did - I remember you walking across half the map through enemies to siege and take Slezsh Castle from the Wolves (my clan at that time), it took forever to take it back from you - a move that inspired me much and showed me what could be done i terms of going behind enemy lines.

Greys: First time I saw 20+ armies moving at the same time - also very inspiring to me personally

And there is ofc lots more....please share your memories if you have any  :wink:

Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: IR_Kuoin on December 17, 2013, 10:02:24 am
The strat map alone makes me want to start with strat, but too much hassle. I just enjoy staying in the same castle and see its owners come and go, currently my occupied castle has had 4 lords.
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Gnjus on December 17, 2013, 10:20:56 am
By the looks of it this Lord Collaborator achieved more within this game than he will every achieve in his real life.
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Segd on December 17, 2013, 10:41:29 am
Quote from: Gnjus on December 17, 2013, 10:20:56 am
By the looks of it this Lord Collaborator achieved more within this game than he will every achieve in his real life.
Oh noes! I'm too young! I still can became the Lord of Russia! Don't you dare brake my dreams!  :lol:
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: GRANDMOM on December 17, 2013, 12:52:53 pm
We have the OdE fiefs Butan please change :)
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: En_Dotter on December 17, 2013, 01:20:27 pm
Woah! Rank 8? I didnt expect to see us Quincies there. This is quite pleasant. Good job Butan! <3
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Lt_Anders on December 18, 2013, 12:25:42 am
343,000 Garrison 41 million silver on NA versus 919,000 Garrison and 173 million Silver.

Hands Down, NA won strat.

NA
2163 attacks, with 1,560,000 dead. 721 killed per attack

EU
3951 attacks with 1,860,000 dead 470 killed per attack.
Therefore: MORE XP from NA than EU.
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Mongolista on December 18, 2013, 01:06:38 am
Quote from: Lt_Anders on December 18, 2013, 12:25:42 am
343,000 Garrison 41 million silver on NA versus 919,000 Garrison and 173 million Silver.

Hands Down, NA won strat.

NA
2163 attacks, with 1,560,000 dead. 721 killed per attack

EU
3951 attacks with 1,860,000 dead 470 killed per attack.
Therefore: MORE XP from NA than EU.

I must say your constant downgrading of EU strat and advertisement of NA strat gets really irritating.

Not sure what youre seeking for by doing this, even if NA is ten times better EU players are gonna play on EU coz playing with 200 ping against 20 ping is not cool.

Also great job Butan, too bad most of the winners are winners thanks to annoying others with their cheating and multicc and duping so much that the competition just left. Doing one ban wave of multiaccs per strat while giving just few weeks ban for multiaccounting is just....funny.
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: GRANDMOM on December 18, 2013, 01:09:53 am
Butan give us more statistics!!!  :D
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Lt_Anders on December 18, 2013, 01:14:08 am
Quote from: Mongolista on December 18, 2013, 01:06:38 am
I must say your constant downgrading of EU strat and advertisement of NA strat gets really irritating.

Not sure what youre seeking for by doing this, even if NA is ten times better EU players are gonna play on EU coz playing with 200 ping against 20 ping is not cool.

Also great job Butan, too bad most of the winners are winners thanks to annoying others with their cheating and multicc and duping so much that the competition just left. Doing one ban wave of multiaccs per strat while giving just few weeks ban for multiaccounting is just....funny.

It is hard to handle the truth. Blame yourselves for your inability to actually "DO" shit in strat. To much Defense Meta Game in EU. NA says fuk that and, unless AFK, rarely camps. In fact, we invented the "XP battles" this round that you EU tards failed hard to realize. Can't even Give XP to yourselves cause your heads are so far up you ass.

Takes a End of round wipe to actually make you use troops up instead of camp 24/7
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Mongolista on December 18, 2013, 01:27:42 am
Quote from: Lt_Anders on December 18, 2013, 01:14:08 am
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I see, youre just a troll
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Casimir on December 18, 2013, 01:29:57 am
It's just because NA has always been less involved in strat than EU. EU has been stuck in the same alliance blocks since the first strategus. NA has by far been the more dynamic and fluid side of the map, relations actually change there because people seem less stuck in their history. It definitely seems a much more interesting game but maybe that's because there are less players or the map is smaller.  There was a lot more block building in NA relations this time around than their ever has been before. Seems that this iteration of strategus was most suited for that kinda stuff, although independents and small factions had their best chance here since strat 1.
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Lt_Anders on December 18, 2013, 01:36:00 am
Quote from: Mongolista on December 18, 2013, 01:27:42 am
I see, youre just a troll

Common way to ignore and down play someone, when said person has no facts for support of their opinion.

Despite having more troops, more gold, more fiefs, more, well everything, EU has only managed to LOSE 470 troops per attack. NA with less everything lost more troops and thus, deserve to determine strat next time.

This also shows who was the more active side.

Perhaps an even better compasion was looking at your faction(89 battles, 63000 Dead) to my ~6 month active strat faction(so, wasn't in strat at the start like you) 24 attacks and  28000 casualties.

In other words: 707 per attack compared to our 1160 per attack. Less time in strat and more battles and more active. Now just extrapolate that out and boom EU < NA.

And for us it's going to go up even more.

And my original Faction(aka just me) had 4k dead in 11 attacks and Gave away more than thrice that in tickets for other wars(Troop seller/merc).
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Butan on December 18, 2013, 01:49:52 am
Quote from: GRANDMOM on December 18, 2013, 01:09:53 am
Butan give us more statistics!!!  :D


Not much else to do, and except for the fiefs borders its entirely thanks to Harald  :P
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Casimir on December 18, 2013, 01:50:29 am
Erm why is there any kind of agenda about Eu or Na superiority? It's about equal treatment for all players, irrelevant of location. Servers are obviously limited for the stuff but that doesn't mean stuff shouldn't be handled equally. Hopefully next strat we will have a well balanced map with equal distribution of fiefs across all servers, hey maybe we can get an asian server set up if there are enough of those guys as well. I'm pretty sure if asked we can all raise funds for servers and get good server balance and focus for all.

Anyway NA was definetly more dynamic this strat but EU was starting to get there. COA just quitting opened up a lot of new potential for smaller clans in EU and there was the glory of Wessex.
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Heibai on December 18, 2013, 02:02:56 am
There we see again how "wrong" and irritating pure statistics can be.  :|
Coalitions early christmas present changed much on the "ranking".  :mrgreen:

But still gj Butan for sharing this with us.
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Osiris on December 18, 2013, 02:26:03 am
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NA
2163 attacks, with 1,560,000 dead. 721 killed per attack

EU
3951 attacks with 1,860,000 dead 470 killed per attack.



Those were the statistics given by you and you Anders claim that
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NA with less everything lost more troops and thus, deserve to determine strat next time.

A quick looks shows that EU had 1788 more attacks and lost 300k more tickets in battle than NA.

So NA kills more per battle. You also had less battles and used less troops why should NA determine strat all of a sudden?

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Therefore: MORE XP from NA than EU.

I also fail to see how more troops killed in EU means more XP in NA? maybe more per average battle sure, but as Casimir said Strat should be balanced for all not just EU or NA. If you have any complaints about the NA side being to small or something take it to the right thread, Coming here to proclaim NA superiority in how they play just makes you sound like an utter retard.

oh and almost forgot nice job with the OP butan :P
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: ARN_ on December 18, 2013, 04:49:56 pm
Butan give Kalmar right fiefs pls  :P
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Bohannon on December 18, 2013, 04:57:15 pm
3rd line for Kapikulu, additional thank you to the Coalition, for giving up and helping us one more step to the ceiling.

I've been a member for 8 months, we quite had bad times but also good times. We made some tough desicions. Routinely got insult and mocking tries from everyone, including our own race and former members, announced as a teamkiller. But the result shows us we did good.

With my calculations, an avarage Kapikulu player's ratio between enemy hit and friendly-fire is 8.5:1. Maybe at next strat, we should be more careful and more efficent for hits, and if we could rise this ratio to 9.5:1, we may get closer to the top.  :shock:

Furthermore, thanks to Ozan, who i'll write my dissertation about his decision making techniques and make clear what his criterias are. And always keep himself patient and keep all promises that he gave. Also Abay, Guray, Atas, Nisanci, Burak, HeadTaker_II, Illuyanka and my visiual-life buddy Ottomans_Guard and my real-life buddy YnScN.

Greetings to our allies and brave enemies(not gossip girls and arrogants).
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Butan on December 18, 2013, 06:59:26 pm
Quote from: ARN_97 on December 18, 2013, 04:49:56 pm
Butan give Kalmar right fiefs pls  :P

Too late! No warning!  :P
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: ARN_ on December 18, 2013, 07:04:12 pm
Quote from: Butan on December 18, 2013, 06:59:26 pm
Too late! No warning!  :P
Pls, we don't want to have those shitty Ode fifes! :P
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Butan on December 18, 2013, 07:39:25 pm
Ah you mean the Ergellon/Vyincourd/Pagundur/Veluca zone?

I chose to write every faction only once on the map, where they originate from, so Ordre de l'Etoile only appear at Chalbek Castle. Those fiefs in the south (and in the center) are not linked with the rest so it is a bit confusing but I dont mean it to be part of Kalmar Union  :P
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Austrian on December 18, 2013, 07:56:41 pm
Quote from: Butan on December 17, 2013, 05:42:29 am

29*Council of Brodania:
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Not last at least
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Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Butan on December 18, 2013, 08:07:00 pm
Quote from: Austrian on December 18, 2013, 07:56:41 pm
Not last at least
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To be fair I should have compared the 1-fief faction with their total garrison, thus Yruma Castle would be the strongest 1-fief faction  :P
I did that on NA but I did it too fast for EU, I may correct it.
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: ArysOakheart on December 18, 2013, 08:13:52 pm
I have here a much better representation of the true land value of Fisdnar.

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Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: ARN_ on December 18, 2013, 09:20:03 pm
Quote from: Butan on December 17, 2013, 05:42:29 am
5*Kalmar Union:
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This is what I'm talking about :P

EDIT: I demand le fix
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Butan on December 18, 2013, 11:14:18 pm
Oh ok, didnt see, didnt know what you were talking about all that time  :D

it is le fixed
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Butan on December 18, 2013, 11:28:46 pm
Quote from: HESKEYTIME on December 18, 2013, 11:21:52 pm
if only Vermilion had joined my faction just in time for 'end of strat statistics' then we'd look like major players xD


Vermillion traitorous scum, had to be independant within independant  :P
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: GRANDMOM on December 19, 2013, 12:25:34 am



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Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Segd on December 19, 2013, 12:35:14 am
Plz update  8-)

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My mom should be proud!
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Qoray on December 19, 2013, 02:23:42 pm
Nice :oops:
Title: Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
Post by: Butan on December 19, 2013, 02:44:08 pm
I have a little idea  :mrgreen:


Since I show the strat heroes character page, I also show their biography. But many people never wrote anything there... since noone read it. Except now you could have a bit more visibility with my topic.

If anyone from the top 25 update his biography with a new message/text/wall-o-text (anything, personal message or strat related stuff, whatever) and PM me about it, I will update it in the 3rd post like I did with Segd  :P