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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Carthan on December 15, 2013, 06:38:56 pm
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There have been a Brazilian threads already but all of them seem to be just a congregating point for a certain viewpoint.
So I figured this could (hopefully) bring all of that into one thread, and hey, who doesn't love related polls that show a semi-informative result?
I will say I have noticed this about the ranged...
The throwers really do help against cav and decimate infantry
Archers are good against other ranged and scare away cav
Xbows are evil and hurt more than my feelings
Also I am adding EU/NA options for clarity (Different metagame, baddies, skill level, so on)
Oh and if you suggest options for the poll, they will probably be added
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There have been a Brazilian threads already but all of them seem to be just a congregating point for a certain viewpoint.
So I figured this could (hopefully) bring all of that into one thread, and hey, who doesn't love related polls that show a semi-informative result?
Gotta hate those damned Brazilian threads.
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Gotta hate those damned Brazilian threads.
Yeah I thought I was cutting it a little close, but it only shaved off a little of my dignity.
but those Brazilian threads are wax yo
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Yeah I thought I was cutting it a little close, but it only shaved off a little of my dignity.
but those Brazilian threads are wax yo
Very punctual response.
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I would rather be shot 1000 times than lolstabbed once.
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am not allowed ranged before this date made so look more like?
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am not allowed ranged before this date made so look more like?
Sure whatever you say buddy
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Sure whatever you say buddy
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http://strawpoll.me/873734
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Gotta hate those damned Brazilian threads.
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http://strawpoll.me/873734
Remove the /r from the URL, (as in my quote) otherwise it just brings us to the results page and we cannot vote.
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The poll is pretty clear
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The poll is pretty clear
For EU, yes the poll is clear.
I was playing yesterday morning on EU1 (NA time from like 9-11am) and I didn't notice ranged being massively overpowered, or in great numbers (I've never seen more than 1/3rd xbow/archers on a team in my almost 3 years of playing c-rpg).
Last night when I was playing on NA1 on my 2h alt, it was actually really fun on one village type of map (it's in the desert and there's some tents). We kept having 3-4 shielders line up perpendicular with a wall, and then when a few non-shielders got behind, they would slowly march forward towards a group of 5 or so archers that kept going to the same part of the map. We would overwhelm them every time, it was glorious.
So it's pretty obvious that the only thing that changed between ranged whine threads going up, and people being relatively okay with class balance (except for the same few people who always cry about ranged) is the free respec. The free respec allowed people to bypass the grind of being a low level archer. They were able to take their level 33+ characters and have a very good xbow or archer char.
I would have preferred if you were still restricted to a similar build to what you had before the free respec (not sure how you'd do that though).
Also, I still think the "fix" for the whining about archers is a better team balance system/algorithm.
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For EU, yes the poll is clear.
I was playing yesterday morning on EU1 (NA time from like 9-11am) and I didn't notice ranged being massively overpowered, or in great numbers (I've never seen more than 1/3rd xbow/archers on a team in my almost 3 years of playing c-rpg).
First you were not playing in prime time.
Second, you have played once in Eu since the last patch, therefore your opinion is invalid.
Third, stop tying to be hipster and cool by being different.
and finally your NA
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Yes, I'm NA. And we either don't have the same "problem" with ranged as EU, or we just don't bitch about it. We accept the challenge, and try to use tactics or teamwork to overcome it.
I personally don't care if a team was comprised of 100% archers/xbows. That's their choice, and what makes c-rpg so great. I think a 100% ranged team would get destroyed 9 times out of 10.
I'd love to see statistics on the break down of what players were using at certain times of the day on EU1 and NA1. How many xbows out of total population. How many people using bows. I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that it either never, or very rarely goes over 1/3rd of the server population using bows/xbows.
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ive seen a good, 20 ranged out of 35 players before on one team, it is impossible to engage
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Huseby, it depends to what you got in front of you. If you got 5 "new" archers armed with nomad bows surrounded by tincans, they will just die like idiots, but if you meet guys that played like 20/30 hours as archer with all archery skills maxed out, they will already be more painful to kill, and, if you meet a bunch of experimented archers, well ... Don't even expect to reach them alive. This is related to Eu 1.
(Also, I forget horse archers, aka annoying pieces of shit that are worse than archers now because of their increased mobility).
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I agree with the idea that people should be able to play whatever they want, for sure. The problem is that more often than not, atleast as far as I can tell, one team gets most of the ranged players and on most maps that is absolutely devastating if the rest of the team isn't retarded.
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Are lots of ranged on EU only for primetime? I want to get on at that time to see how bad it is. I was on EU1 for the last hour and there were barely any ranged and it was approximately 15-20 people per team. Other than the first map to get accustomed to the ping, I ended up doing quite well as melee.
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am not allowed ranged before this date made so look more like?
This. Dont know what he wrote but I agree