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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => The Chamber of Tears => Topic started by: Arthur_ on December 15, 2013, 12:33:52 pm

Title: FREE MELEE!
Post by: Arthur_ on December 15, 2013, 12:33:52 pm
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 eu1 some min ago
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Post by: Grumpy_Nic on December 15, 2013, 12:36:48 pm
Get a shield
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Post by: Panos_ on December 15, 2013, 12:40:18 pm
Get a shield

jump from a cliff
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Post by: wanteds on December 15, 2013, 01:32:23 pm
jump from a cliff

And do a flip while you're at it.
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Post by: Latvian on December 15, 2013, 01:38:35 pm
buff archery
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Post by: Austrian on December 15, 2013, 01:42:13 pm
Would be a good time to get back melee-only server!
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Post by: Grumpy_Nic on December 15, 2013, 02:16:31 pm
hmmmm forgot smiley of sarcasm

Get a shield  :mrgreen:
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Post by: justme on December 15, 2013, 02:51:28 pm
and where is naked protest march few moments later?
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Post by: darmaster on December 15, 2013, 02:56:42 pm
I really admire those who are still playing this mod as melee
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Post by: Wiltzu on December 15, 2013, 03:08:26 pm
When I saw a movie poster of The Hobbit 2, it instantly brought EU1 to my mind(3 out of 7 are archers, and well gandalf is ranged too.. :mrgreen:).

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Post by: Ronin on December 15, 2013, 03:24:19 pm
When I saw a movie poster of The Hobbit 2, it instantly brought EU1 to my mind(3 out of 7 are archers, and well gandalf is ranged too.. :mrgreen:).

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Gandalf is cav/inf hybrid.

Correction Edit: Actually in this movie he is inf/thrower. Later on at the end of movie 1, he respecs to cav/inf hybrid.
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Post by: Rebelyell on December 15, 2013, 03:52:32 pm
jump from a cliff
hey shield helps
on way to the clif
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Post by: Leshma on December 15, 2013, 04:41:17 pm
There's a freaking Elves clan on EU siege :rolleyes:
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Post by: Radament on December 15, 2013, 04:48:02 pm
nerf Gandalf
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Post by: MlotekPL on December 15, 2013, 04:51:49 pm
Get a shield
Get a shield and see your shield broken with two shots,unless you have  10 shield skill?
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Post by: Grumbs on December 15, 2013, 04:57:22 pm
I got my Huscarl round shield penetrated by a xbower the other day, and it was by Dieler (or an imposter. He is usually melee). Wasn't point blank but I was approaching him so might have been some movement speed bonus. The server was nearly dead so I know it was him and it only took 1/4 of my life so it was a shield penetrator. Seems you can't even move toward some ranged with a shield now incase you get penetrated and 1 shotted in the head

Kind of wish I took those 5 shield points and put them into athletics so I can at least dodge better. Holding the shield up makes you a much easier target and you just get hit from the sides.
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Post by: Hirlok on December 15, 2013, 05:03:54 pm
I got my Huscarl round shield penetrated by a xbower the other day,

Arb has been doing this for years. Other ranged does not. So?
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Post by: Grumbs on December 15, 2013, 05:10:04 pm
So I put 5 skill points into something. Xbower puts F-all and still has enough WPF for enough in a melee weapon

Xbowers are really poorly implemented, they are literally point and click. Don't have a window to shoot in like with archer, can run and shoot up close. Hide all round pewpewing in heavy armour and you can still have a better melee build than pure melee with shield. They overbuffed 1 handers and increased weight, they never seem to get weapon stunned anymore.

Would be nice if the devs focussed on xbowers, but all they do is increase their damage with their Steel Bolts, give them more WPF but add a little weight that doesn't actually matter in a melee fight because they just drop the xbow and are hiding before then anyway
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Post by: Hirlok on December 15, 2013, 05:44:54 pm
Totally agreed. XBows and their hybrid abilities are a joke and have been so for ... since the mod exists.

Problem: won't change, since at least one of the devs used to be or still is a xbow.

So archers get nerfed because some goat must be offered to the whining melee blood gods.  :mrgreen:
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Post by: Carthan on December 15, 2013, 05:47:58 pm
Gandalf is cav/inf hybrid.

Correction Edit: Actually in this movie he is inf/thrower. Later on at the end of movie 1, he respecs to cav/inf hybrid.
Actually I think he retired.
I think Gandalf was too cheap to buy the name change.
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Post by: Lt_Anders on December 15, 2013, 05:49:56 pm
How come EU whines so much. You don't see NA whine at all.

I think EU just can't handle anything that doesn't fit their Medieval definition of a fight.(which, btw, Shields WERE the most common form of weapon along with spears, so If anything, mass Migration to shield is realitically accurate for the majority of the "crpg timeperiod)
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Post by: Alec on December 15, 2013, 05:54:11 pm
Dig a hole, put on some disguise, like orange clothes and prettend you are a carrot. I bet they'll miss  :mrgreen:
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Post by: Rumblood on December 15, 2013, 05:57:20 pm
Buff cavalry. Those squishies are lined up perfect for a conga line of lancers.
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Post by: //saxon on December 15, 2013, 05:57:41 pm
melee only server was owned by Nord_ConquerorWorm

praise the Worm for he is the god of all contributions

visitors can't see pics , please register or login
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Post by: Grumbs on December 15, 2013, 05:59:27 pm
I don't want to play melee only. I want cav, melee, shielders, archers, xbows, throwers.

BUT the server is an absolute joke right now. We don't have ranged we have melee with ranged capability. Way too many projectiles flying around to make the game fun to play
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Post by: Gurnisson on December 15, 2013, 06:03:58 pm
Would be nice if the devs focussed on xbowers, but all they do is increase their damage with their Steel Bolts

Buffed non-loomed version, but loomed one just increased in weight and price, not damage.
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Post by: Alec on December 15, 2013, 06:04:03 pm
Why don't we add PD requirement for xbows and decrease accuracy when mounted? even when your horse isn't moving.
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Post by: Lt_Anders on December 15, 2013, 06:06:11 pm
Why don't we add PD requirement for xbows and decrease accuracy when mounted? even when your horse isn't moving.

You do know that being mounted is -20% reduction in damage yes? You need 10 HA just to have equal damage as a foot archer. (HA is +2% damage from the -20%. So 1 HA is -18% damage, etc.)
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Post by: Alec on December 15, 2013, 06:08:26 pm
You do know that being mounted is -20% reduction in damage yes? You need 10 HA just to have equal damage as a foot archer. (HA is +2% damage from the -20%. So 1 HA is -18% damage, etc.)

Not talking about damage, but accuracy..  :lol:
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Post by: Grumbs on December 15, 2013, 06:19:16 pm
Buffed non-loomed version, but loomed one just increased in weight and price, not damage.

Arbalest has always been 100 piercing has it? Thats OK then. Legit damage right there for such a weapon
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Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on December 15, 2013, 06:20:16 pm
melee only server was owned by Nord_ConquerorWorm

praise the Worm for he is the god of all contributions

visitors can't see pics , please register or login


Yeeee so I won't be going to the Amazon anytime soon....
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Post by: Ronin on December 15, 2013, 06:38:58 pm
Not talking about damage, but accuracy..  :lol:
HA skill itself also reduce some archery wpf too, just like PD skill.
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Post by: Herkkutatti666 on December 15, 2013, 06:47:37 pm
Just fix polearm swing animations
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Post by: Lt_Anders on December 15, 2013, 06:48:01 pm
Not talking about damage, but accuracy..  :lol:

You obviously missed the point, but w/e. Continue on with your blind Archer hate.
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Post by: Kirbyy on December 15, 2013, 06:58:40 pm
I totally agree, but take a look at this.

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Post by: Alec on December 15, 2013, 06:59:25 pm
You obviously missed the point, but w/e. Continue on with your blind Archer hate.

rofl  :rolleyes:, you are talking about reduced damage when mounted. I'm talking about adding PD requirement for xbow and decrease accuracy, that's that crosshair u know  :lol:
And don't judge me when u don't know me. I don't hate ranged except when it comes to mounted xbowers running away.
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Post by: MlotekPL on December 15, 2013, 07:05:19 pm
Fix polearm swings/stab,1h stab,and xbow pls
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Post by: Ronin on December 15, 2013, 07:06:55 pm
rofl  :rolleyes:, you are talking about reduced damage when mounted. I'm talking about adding PD requirement for xbow and decrease accuracy, that's that crosshair u know  :lol:
And don't judge me when u don't know me. I don't hate ranged except when it comes to mounted xbowers running away.
Ah mounted crossbows reload 3 times slower than they are used to be. I rarely see any mounted crossbowman in EU these days, they are mostly outclassed by horse archers while keeping their uniqueness.
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Post by: wanteds on December 16, 2013, 12:43:28 am
Just add the possibility for ranged weapons to randomly explode in your face once in a while when drawn, problem solved.
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Post by: darmaster on December 16, 2013, 02:23:33 am
How come EU whines so much. You don't see NA whine at all.

I think EU just can't handle anything that doesn't fit their Medieval definition of a fight.(which, btw, Shields WERE the most common form of weapon along with spears, so If anything, mass Migration to shield is realitically accurate for the majority of the "crpg timeperiod)

What you've written in those parenthesis is crap since it's based on your (wrong) assumption; what we really care about is fun, and, despite retarded people disagree, most of it comes from gameplay, not realism.

Btw I'm not asking for a melee only server; eventhough I spent 40% of my forum time insulting you, I admit ranged are a very important part in crpg and my fun time; your actual opness that derives from the huge amount of ranged is not. The first step should be imo a ranged amount balancer if possible, tired of seeing 40 HA in the same team just because they're wearing a starry bear as banner.
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Post by: Macropus on December 16, 2013, 09:34:56 am
Now is the time to implement magician class to counter archers. Magicians would reflect arrows and bolts back to shooter with their magic shield, but would only be able to attack in melee.
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Post by: Syndrolic on December 16, 2013, 10:58:00 am
i dont Understand? how is free melee when there all bowmans.

why would u get sheild? archers can have only 1 thing.. waste on sheild?
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Post by: Prpavi on December 16, 2013, 11:19:36 am
tired of seeing 40 HA in the same team just because they're wearing a starry bear as banner.

Well those times are long gone, it lasted for about a week, everybody else is back to their mains, I'm the only HA left and there are barely more than 2 or 3 HA on the server at any time, so the fear of the starry bear HA my old friends is gone, you may wipe your tears  :mrgreen:

and Yes, delaying Horse Archers should be banned immediatley
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Post by: jack786 on December 16, 2013, 01:46:21 pm
Add chinese repeating crossbows!
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Post by: Alec on December 16, 2013, 01:50:46 pm
Add chinese repeating crossbows!

Add carrots  :mrgreen:
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on December 16, 2013, 04:26:08 pm
I got my Huscarl round shield penetrated by a xbower the other day, and it was by Dieler (or an imposter. He is usually melee). Wasn't point blank but I was approaching him so might have been some movement speed bonus. The server was nearly dead so I know it was him and it only took 1/4 of my life so it was a shield penetrator. Seems you can't even move toward some ranged with a shield now incase you get penetrated and 1 shotted in the head

Kind of wish I took those 5 shield points and put them into athletics so I can at least dodge better. Holding the shield up makes you a much easier target and you just get hit from the sides.

Huscarl's only have 20 "armor" (resistance).  Use a knightly kite or (my favorite) knightly heater shield.  You're welcome.

But I do agree with your follow-up post to this.  Xbows should have had to have a "skill" to use xbows (like power throw or power draw) for 3+ years now.  Not sure why that was never addressed.



Btw I'm not asking for a melee only server; eventhough I spent 40% of my forum time insulting you, I admit ranged are a very important part in crpg and my fun time; your actual opness that derives from the huge amount of ranged is not. The first step should be imo a ranged amount balancer if possible, tired of seeing 40 HA in the same team just because they're wearing a starry bear as banner.

I (and some others) have pointed out for almost 3 years now that the current team balance system is broken.  If there's 20 horse ranged on, and they all wear the same banner, 18 of them shouldn't be on the same team.  We need a better balance system that takes "class" into account.  A proper team balance algorithm would go a long way towards curbing the amount of "cries for nerfs" over the years.