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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: musketer on November 29, 2013, 03:25:40 pm

Title: Triangle shield MUST be heraldic!
Post by: musketer on November 29, 2013, 03:25:40 pm
Hi, I saw that this shield has a static image on it without able to change it. So my suggestion is that it should be heraldic shield, this shield was common in medieval time period and it was heraldic shield as you can see here:
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Triangle Shield
Type:Shield
Requirement:5 shield
Weight:7
Slots:-
Upkeep:468 gold
Shop price:6,687 gold
Value:3,344 gold
Speed:97
Width:44
Height:92
Body armor:10
Hit points:470



SO PLEASE!! MAKE IT HERALDIC!!!
Title: Re: Triangle shield MUST be heraldic!
Post by: Osiris on November 29, 2013, 03:37:05 pm
those are pictures of knightly heater shield which is heraldic

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Personally i like triangle shield :P every other shield being heraldic gets boring
Title: Re: Triangle shield MUST be heraldic!
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 29, 2013, 06:54:09 pm
If not for shit like the merc banner I'd love to have more heraldic shit.
Title: Re: Triangle shield MUST be heraldic!
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on December 02, 2013, 07:50:52 am
It bugs me that the blue on the shield doesn't quite match any other blue items. Same thing goes for the blue norman shields too, though.
Title: Re: Triangle shield MUST be heraldic!
Post by: Strudog on December 02, 2013, 08:40:20 am
If not for shit like the merc banner I'd love to have more heraldic shit.

what is wrong with the merc banner, its better than 99% of the stuff out there
Title: Re: Triangle shield MUST be heraldic!
Post by: Teeth on December 02, 2013, 10:05:34 am
No! This look is amazing and historically accurate. This was not a western heater shield, like the ones you are showing. It was a common shield used by Byzantine infantry. The Triangle Shield must be 4 shield skill so I can actually use it though. Best looking shield in the game with the Dark Blue Heavy Norman being a close second.

what is wrong with the merc banner, its better than 99% of the stuff out there
It's a collection of a bunch of terrible try hard tough guy symbols out there. A plate armour with a plate skull(?), wings, swords, spikes and a fucking crown of thorns? The logo itself is completely tasteless and very unfit for a banner which is then poorly plastered on a black field. I like you guys as a clan and I think some of the hate you get is misplaced, but I would never join Mercs simply because I had to carry that piece of shit around. 

Now of course there are terrible banners around, especially on NA, but when talking clans with a serious profile then Mercs has the worst banner.
Title: Re: Triangle shield MUST be heraldic!
Post by: Erzengel on December 02, 2013, 10:16:54 am
It's a collection of a bunch of terrible try hard tough guy symbols out there. A plate armour with a plate skull(?), wings, swords, spikes and a fucking crown of thorns? The logo itself is completely tasteless and very unfit for a banner which is then poorly plastered on a black field. I like you guys as a clan and I think some of the hate you get is misplaced, but I would never join Mercs simply because I had to carry that piece of shit around. 

Now of course there are terrible banners around, especially on NA, but when talking clans with a serious profile then Mercs has the worst banner.

Couldn't agree more. Merc banner is just terrible.

Title: Re: Triangle shield MUST be heraldic!
Post by: musketer on December 02, 2013, 10:42:46 am
what is wrong with the merc banner, its better than 99% of the stuff out there

Doesn't fit to the ingame heraldic design, it looks a 3 Dimension image and that is unrealistic for medieval time period, if it would have been more structured and with solid structures without that 3D effect then it would look normal and would fit to the mod.
Title: Re: Triangle shield MUST be heraldic!
Post by: Algarn on December 03, 2013, 11:53:05 am
No! This look is amazing and historically accurate. This was not a western heater shield, like the ones you are showing. It was a common shield used by Byzantine infantry. The Triangle Shield must be 4 shield skill so I can actually use it though. Best looking shield in the game with the Dark Blue Heavy Norman being a close second.
It's a collection of a bunch of terrible try hard tough guy symbols out there. A plate armour with a plate skull(?), wings, swords, spikes and a fucking crown of thorns? The logo itself is completely tasteless and very unfit for a banner which is then poorly plastered on a black field. I like you guys as a clan and I think some of the hate you get is misplaced, but I would never join Mercs simply because I had to carry that piece of shit around. 

Now of course there are terrible banners around, especially on NA, but when talking clans with a serious profile then Mercs has the worst banner.

The thing you got to understand is we don't got any theme to stick with :

- Nordmen got a nord themed banner
- Byzantium got a byzantine banner
- Grey order got a dark/white banner with the message of balance.
- Druzhina guys got a bear on red background. (bear = russia)
- Templars got the white background with the red cross (obviously, it reminds of crusaders)

Mercenaries don't got any theme, we are just a bunch of players with a lot of different RP that you can see by watching all merc's gear, and this is the main bad thing about making a banner. I like the banner for my part because of elements of this banner.

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- Dark backgroud to remind of the evilness/darkness/chaos of the battlefield (?)
- a death angel in a plate armor to remind of the death and the blood
- a golden ring with spikes to remind of the gold

All elements of mercenaries are on this banner, the theme is that we don't got any theme to stick with (-> no restrictions about armors, classes, etc ...), and we prefer obviously to wear non heraldic armors because wearing a banner is for noblemen. I have to agree to the point that our banner is literally horrible on shields and armors with few exceptions like transitional plate.
Title: Re: Triangle shield MUST be heraldic!
Post by: Rebelyell on December 03, 2013, 12:01:36 pm
that banner is just to modern
lama photos are equally heraldic if not more

I like peoples and clan as whole but that banner is way out of my taste.
Title: Re: Triangle shield MUST be heraldic!
Post by: Osiris on December 03, 2013, 12:37:14 pm
banner could be more fitting to the era buuut that being said not every shield needs to be heraldic :P
Title: Re: Triangle shield MUST be heraldic!
Post by: [ptx] on December 03, 2013, 12:38:49 pm
I think we can all agree:
Title: Re: Triangle shield MUST be heraldic!
Post by: Teeth on December 03, 2013, 12:41:39 pm
- Grey order got a dark/white banner with the message of balance.
Wouldn't say Grey Order has a clear cut theme but they thought of something which looks good. Surely Mercs should be able to come up with something relating to being a mercenary, or the blood and gold thing. It doesn't even have to be complex or incredibly deep at all. It should be tasteful though and preferably two-dimensional and not clogged up with all kinds of details which do not work on the small banner size. You should be able to easily design something that fits on shields and armours and fits in a medieval setting, while also relating to your theme. Hell I liked the red and white banner with the swords you had back from Native better.

Also, Druzhina best banner. 
Title: Re: Triangle shield MUST be heraldic!
Post by: Algarn on December 03, 2013, 12:49:15 pm
The difficulty for this task teeth, is that as I said, mercenaries are mercenaries from everywhere : they can be arabian, chinese, european or viking as well, and it's the main difficulty to make a banner fitting with mercenaries, because it's not like byzantine mercenaries or holy empire 's mercenaries, but mercenaries themselves, without a clear shape, any country or any color. Mercs can't simply take the old banner with those 3 swords from native and make a cRPG banner with some additions, it's way too plain.
Title: Re: Triangle shield MUST be heraldic!
Post by: [ptx] on December 03, 2013, 12:50:17 pm
Plain would be best.
Title: Re: Triangle shield MUST be heraldic!
Post by: Algarn on December 03, 2013, 12:54:21 pm
It depends to how do you see the term. Byzantine banner is simple, but it stays a beautiful banner, same goes for templars. But we can't take simply a native banner as a "serious" clan. Maybe a idea will pop up a day, but not now for sure ;).
Title: Re: Triangle shield MUST be heraldic!
Post by: Osiris on December 03, 2013, 01:08:23 pm
im sure i could make a banner that would make them wish for the old one. my banner making skills are amazing ( i don't think the banner works great on heraldic gear but its nice for the website :P)