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cRPG => Beginner's Help and Guides => Topic started by: Glyph on November 24, 2013, 10:16:24 pm

Title: need help calculating my losses
Post by: Glyph on November 24, 2013, 10:16:24 pm
I just retired and am wondering how much it will cost me to play with 7,100 gold on upkeep costs untill I'm lvl 31 again. could anyone help me? I remember seeing a tread in which a person calculated how much time and round it would take to get to a new gen without you influencing the outcome, can't find it though :/
I'd like to know if I can get through a gen with this much upkeep by selling a LP every gen.

Thanks
Title: Re: need help calculating my losses
Post by: Riddaren on November 24, 2013, 11:34:41 pm
You would lose 140k per gen according to my calculations :)

896k upkeep - 756k income = -140k per gen

Average multiplier: 3
Ticks per round: 5
Generation bonus: 300 (10th gen)
3900*5 = 19500
8735843/19500 = 448 rounds
750 gold * 448 rounds  = 336 000 gold + loom point (420k) = 756k

Upkeep:
448 * 2k (a guess) = 896000
Title: Re: need help calculating my losses
Post by: Glyph on November 25, 2013, 05:26:41 pm
You would lose 140k per gen according to my calculations :)

896k upkeep - 756k income = -140k per gen

Average multiplier: 3
Ticks per round: 5
Generation bonus: 300 (10th gen)
3900*5 = 19500
8735843/19500 = 448 rounds
750 gold * 448 rounds  = 336 000 gold + loom point (420k) = 756k

Upkeep:
448 * 2k (a guess) = 896000
Thx! though I do have some questions...
Isn't a x3 multi a bit high for a player who isn't in a clan and doesn't hit the top 3 scores every round?
And I have no idea whether the 2k per round on repairs is anywhere near the real number. :S
Title: Re: need help calculating my losses
Post by: Ronin on November 26, 2013, 03:09:56 pm
Considering the ticks drop to x1 from high multipliers when you lose but can only be raised by 1 each round when you win, x3 is not the avarage multiplier you will get. Without considering valor that is.

Better calculate with x2 as avarage, though in eu1 you might tend to win or lose repeatedly in the same map; increasing your chances to reach and stay at higher multipliers for a longer time I believe.
Title: Re: need help calculating my losses
Post by: Riddaren on November 27, 2013, 12:00:37 am
Thx! though I do have some questions...
Isn't a x3 multi a bit high for a player who isn't in a clan and doesn't hit the top 3 scores every round?
And I have no idea whether the 2k per round on repairs is anywhere near the real number. :S

Maybe x2 is a more realistic average mutliplier value, like Ronin said.
But it's very individual since some people get valour every other round and can affect the outcome of rounds as well.

2k upkeep on average is just a guess.
You could just write down each round upkeep for like, 20 rounds :wink:
Doesn't have to be 7k upkeep, just equivalent to the gear you want to use (if you can scale it down that is).
Title: Re: need help calculating my losses
Post by: Glyph on November 27, 2013, 04:48:19 pm
thx for the advice, will keep an eye on upkeep to find out how expensive it acctually is

EDIT: isn't there a set chance for every item you've equiped to break every tick?
Title: Re: need help calculating my losses
Post by: Sir_Hans on November 27, 2013, 07:32:28 pm
Yep there is a set chance for armor, I can't find it listed anywhere but If I remember correctly each armor piece has a  14% (?) chance of breaking per round.

As for weapons... :

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