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Title: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Xant on November 16, 2013, 07:32:20 pm
dem graphics (on PC)

That is all.

(and gameplay is still so fucking easy it's super boring)
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: cmp on November 16, 2013, 07:34:26 pm
Same gameplay as the previous 15 Assassin's Creed games?

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Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Molly on November 16, 2013, 08:06:17 pm
Pre-ordered today \o/




Well, it's similar with Batman: lot of people complained that there barely is anything new in Origins. That doesn't make it a bad game tho. When you liked AC and AA, why wouldn't you like more it?

I really enjoyed AC 3 for it's surroundings. The cities are really alive and just nice to walk through. Same with AC 4... it's gonna be fun if you enjoyed the previous ones.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Xant on November 16, 2013, 08:23:31 pm
Same gameplay as the previous 15 Assassin's Creed games?

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Yeah, I don't get it. Least they could do is make combat a bit harder. There's still, just like in the previous 15 AC games, no incentive at all to not just kill every soldier and guard in view using only your left hand while reading a book. Makes it very boring. You're just "seeing the story through", because the gameplay itself offers no challenge. Which would be a bit better if the missions weren't all so alike and if the story was actually interesting.

Still, it's fun enough to walk around the locations for 15-30 minutes at a time.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Molly on November 16, 2013, 09:24:25 pm
Yea, the combat is a bit bland. Tho they mixed it up a little in 3... A tiny tiny bit.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Malaclypse on November 16, 2013, 10:43:38 pm
If you're not spending most of your time sailing around and listening to sea shanties you're doing it wrong.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Thovex on November 16, 2013, 11:03:04 pm
This isn't actually a clone of any other Assassin's Creeds, you are not as often on land as you are on sea, it was a pretty nice timekiller and I played it quite a while, I liked it alot actually.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Xant on November 17, 2013, 01:01:36 am
AC 3 already had sea stuff, and the ships handle the same way as they did before. And it's just as gay.

Well, I should specify: The sailing and exploring is cool, but the sea battles are gay.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Christo on November 17, 2013, 07:26:46 am
AC franchise starts to out 'shine' CoD in it's repetition lol
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Tibe on November 17, 2013, 09:37:07 am
I dunno, I kinda even like this one. But AC lost its spark long ago for sure. The style, the combat, the whole lot is just boooring as  fuck now. Still remembering that enthusiasm I had when I played AC 1 and 2. After finishing those, the shallowness and the repetitiveness could not be overlooked anymore. I kinda like the piratestuff, the crafting they stole from FC3 and the fact that the world does seem rather big. I basically dislike all ACs that go after AC2, but this one, is fine imo.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Xant on November 17, 2013, 02:37:22 pm
AC1's shallowness was excusable because it did so many other things right, added a lot of other new things. But after AC1, the changes they've made have been mostly small cosmetic things, gameplay works like 99% the same.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Nightmare798 on November 17, 2013, 03:01:22 pm
I expect them to go back in time with the next installment. Wouldnt want this franchise to become a thrird person shooter.

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AC1's shallowness was excusable because it did so many other things right, added a lot of other new things. But after AC1, the changes they've made have been mostly small cosmetic things, gameplay works like 99% the same.

I disagree, AC2 was a huge improvement in series, and it did everything that AC1 did better.

Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Xant on November 17, 2013, 04:34:03 pm
Core gameplay was still completely the same.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Nightmare798 on November 17, 2013, 04:48:08 pm
Core gameplay was still completely the same.

In what manner?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 17, 2013, 07:22:11 pm
Brb hating on AC franchise
Brb hating on COD franchise
Brb hating on BF franchise
Brb hating on sports games


Brb jizzing my pants over retarded indie games and mods.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Christo on November 17, 2013, 07:31:45 pm
Brb hating on AC franchise
Brb hating on COD franchise
Brb hating on BF franchise
Brb hating on sports games


Brb jizzing my pants over retarded indie games and mods.

It's always funny to read this when you post in a forum about a mod of an "indie" videogame.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Tibe on November 17, 2013, 07:34:17 pm
In what manner?

It has always been pretty much the same. Its just that when the first ACs came out it was new and fresh. It was all like "wow, free roam parkour in well detailed places" and "wow awesome looking kills". After 15 games of pretty much the same stuff, the old fans find little to no amusement in this. I hate the games plot, I hate the very idea of Animus and most characters(including the mainchars) are about as interesting as carboard boxes with different accents. AC 2 changed relatively little. I quess I just liked Ezio as he was slightly more interesting than the other bland characters and I felt quite attached to his uncle aswell. I hate Desmond and I hate playing as him even more.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Nightmare798 on November 17, 2013, 07:49:22 pm
Brb hating on AC franchise
Brb hating on COD franchise
Brb hating on BF franchise
Brb hating on sports games


Brb jizzing my pants over retarded indie games and mods.

AC went shit after Brotherhood, and AC3 fucked up with its setting  for me. I want to play as an assassin, not to jump around trees and shoot muskets.

Also, who hates sports games?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Xant on November 17, 2013, 07:52:06 pm
Everyone.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Molly on November 17, 2013, 07:56:03 pm
AC went shit after Brotherhood, and AC3 fucked up with its setting  for me. I want to play as an assassin, not to jump around trees and shoot muskets.

Also, who hates sports games?
AC3 is the only AC game I actually managed to complete the story. Not a single bullet was fired that playthrough...
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Nightmare798 on November 17, 2013, 08:00:17 pm
Everyone.

Well maybe things like football and hockey.

I wouldnt know, I play stuff like BMX freestyle, skateboarding, snowboarding etc.

Also, Track and field game is absolutely hillarious. Jumping 0.13 meters and landing on your arse requires huge ammounts of skill and discipline.

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AC3 is the only AC game I actually managed to complete the story. Not a single bullet was fired that playthrough...

It depends on opinion. I just hate the age of discovery as whole. I am more into the middle ages/renaissance setting and such.

Also, I never understood why the game had to be set in america. Europe not good enough for them anymore?

Seems like a cheap trick to build up american playerbase to me.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Havoco on November 17, 2013, 08:19:26 pm
Meh, the game previews looked okay, but u can never trust those for any game anymore. Ill probably get it, but only if it goes on sale. I liked the ship combat in AC3 which is probably the main reason why I even want to get it.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 18, 2013, 02:49:43 am
It's always funny to read this when you post in a forum about a mod of an "indie" videogame.

 :lol:

Plz don't be an indie loving my old friendgt kthxbye
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Xant on November 18, 2013, 03:06:24 am
It's a sad fact that the big companies make ultra-casualized retarded games. There are some great ones that don't, though, like CD Projekt RED.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Nightmare798 on November 18, 2013, 10:26:04 am
Plz don't be an indie loving my old friendgt kthxbye

Many indie games have much greater depth than many new aaa titles, so plz dont be an indie hating my old friendgt kthxbye.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 18, 2013, 11:17:43 am
Many indie games have much greater depth than many new aaa titles, so plz dont be an indie hating my old friendgt kthxbye.

NES graphics depth trololol

It's a sad fact that the big companies make ultra-casualized retarded games. There are some great ones that don't, though, like CD Projekt RED.

Witcher games sucks but Cyberpunk 2077 game is probably the game i'm the most excited for amongst all games to be released but it won't be released till like 2015-2016 so can't really count them now.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Christo on November 18, 2013, 11:25:57 am
NES graphics depth trololol

headdesk
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Casimir on November 18, 2013, 12:10:40 pm
Well it couldnt be worse that AC3, will probably pick it up when i see it on sale. Hopefully by then it will work on PC cos ubisoft ports are the worst.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Nightmare798 on November 18, 2013, 12:45:55 pm
NES graphics depth trololol

Witcher games sucks but Cyberpunk 2077 game is probably the game i'm the most excited for amongst all games to be released but it won't be released till like 2015-2016 so can't really count them now.

I almost feel like an imbecile having to remind people every day that games are usually about something called gameplay.

Also NES graphics? Did you see Trine 2? Do some research on indie scene before coming to conclusions.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Xant on November 18, 2013, 12:59:01 pm
I almost feel like an imbecile
That's not just a feeling
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Tibe on November 18, 2013, 02:14:46 pm
I almost feel like an imbecile having to remind people every day that games are usually about something called gameplay.

Also NES graphics? Did you see Trine 2? Do some research on indie scene before coming to conclusions.

Serius arguing with Berenger about this subject?:lol: Are you new here?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Nightmare798 on November 18, 2013, 02:23:08 pm
Serius arguing with Berenger about this subject?:lol: Are you new here?

Point taken.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 18, 2013, 05:25:43 pm
I almost feel like an imbecile having to remind people every day that games are usually about something called gameplay.

Also NES graphics? Did you see Trine 2? Do some research on indie scene before coming to conclusions.

Did not just see Trine 2. I have it. And to be honest, its mediocre at best. Last good indie game i played was Braid. Most indie games sucks anyhow.


Point taken.

Gf my old friendt
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Nightmare798 on November 18, 2013, 05:46:18 pm
Did not just see Trine 2. I have it. And to be honest, its mediocre at best. Last good indie game i played was Braid. Most indie games sucks anyhow.


Gf my old friendt

You are beyond any help or advice.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Prpavi on November 18, 2013, 06:06:28 pm
So what's going on is the dude still in Animus "tracing the steps of his ancestors" if so how is his brain not fried yet, if not don't care the plot must me more stretched by now than Prison Break season 2.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Nightmare798 on November 18, 2013, 06:08:18 pm
So what's going on is the dude still in Animus "tracing the steps of his ancestors" if so how is his brain not fried yet, if not don't care the plot must me more stretched by now than Prison Break season 2.

Bah! The whole story is a giant clusterfuck of cliffhangers and unexplained shit that even devs cant find their way around, to tell nothing about players. They should better start explaining things.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Casimir on November 18, 2013, 07:40:06 pm
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Joseph Porta on November 18, 2013, 08:45:58 pm
BOATS YES COOL OMG FUN YES

i'm having serious fun in this game (PC with controller) oh lawd, boats are awesum33!!11!\

no really it is a lot of fun
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: TheAppleSauceMan on November 18, 2013, 10:46:39 pm
I've hated every AC after the first due to the incredible repetitiveness. But this one was actually a LOT of fun. The sailing and ship battles gave it enough variety that I actually played it all the way through and did all the side missions. I really enjoyed it. Though I'm curious what they'll do in the next installment, can't imagine going back to only playing the game on foot, wouldn't be able to do it again.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Overdriven on November 18, 2013, 11:08:23 pm
I can't hate on AC.

I know so many aspects of it are repetitive and shit but there's just something about it I love so much.

I really want this one but will wait until it goes on sale I think.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 18, 2013, 11:18:21 pm
Only reason this one is so good is because yerrrr a pirate
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Tibe on November 19, 2013, 02:28:17 pm
In my case you are right. Im a real sucker when it comes to piratethemes. There is just something about being in a confined space for months with bunch of other semi-naked muscular sweaty and desperate men. But it is not just me. Many think of Black flag to be somewhat of a minor risingpoint for AC in general, considering the repetitiveness and lack of actual creativity the last games had.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Xant on November 19, 2013, 02:43:25 pm
It just shows the moneygrabbing nature of the studio. It makes no sense at all, but they do it anyways because pirates sell.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Molly on November 19, 2013, 02:52:24 pm
17.2GB pre-load... probably my biggest yet. I think Rome 2 was less than that.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Tibe on November 19, 2013, 03:06:24 pm
Ubisoft has always been moneyhungry. Just look at the games they publish these days. Mainly their old successful titles, slightly altered. Ubisoft will probably never publish a real legendary game. They seem to be so afraid of failing, that they just release games that are only for the general public. They dont have the balls to do stuff Paradox does. Sure sometimes they screw the pooch and the games end up buggy as hell, but atleast they go out their way to publish something new and different. Breaking new ground. The very logo of Ubisoft itself reminds me of blandness.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Overdriven on November 19, 2013, 06:36:29 pm
It just shows the moneygrabbing nature of the studio. It makes no sense at all, but they do it anyways because pirates sell.

If people are actually interested in playing that period though surely that isn't a bad thing as they are actually catering to what people want?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Nightmare798 on November 19, 2013, 07:29:39 pm
If people are actually interested in playing that period though surely that isn't a bad thing as they are actually catering to what people want?


Sorry, but slapping pirates over a franchise that has nothing really to do with them does not make it awesome, remember Risen 2.

As far as I can remember, this game was originally more or less about assasinating  plot-important villains, not sailing a ship and fucking arund in pirate costume.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Casimir on November 19, 2013, 07:38:48 pm
Are you saying you cant assassinate plot important characters while sailing around at the same time?
I really don't see the problem with the theme of this one, far more interesting than 3 also a nice change to the dynamic of gameplay that the franchise sorely needs.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Nightmare798 on November 19, 2013, 07:52:45 pm
Are you saying you cant assassinate plot important characters while sailing around at the same time?
I really don't see the problem with the theme of this one, far more interesting than 3 also a nice change to the dynamic of gameplay that the franchise sorely needs.

Nope you still can, but why would any assasin want to become a notorious pirate, and why on earth pirates?

This game doesnt need more firearms, it needs more assasination techniques, more plot options, greater lenght, higher difficulty (I was seriously like WTF when they introduced kill streaks inBrohood that allowed me to murder half of the city guard without any real problems), and better story.


Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Overdriven on November 19, 2013, 07:57:34 pm
I really don't see the problem.

AC has never been hard, it's always been a doddle since the first one because they have always had insta-kill counter attacks. But it's a game that's never been about difficulty. For me it's always been about presenting me with cities, terrain and places that I'd have loved to have seen in those time periods and doing a good job of bringing them alive. And so far (except maybe for AC3) they have fulfilled that for me. To expect any different isn't really realistic, and it also doesn't particularly seem to be what people want considering how well these games sell.

The future side of AC has always been a sideline for me as well and I've never been all that interested in it so I'm not fussed about the plot holes ect.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Tibe on November 19, 2013, 08:03:33 pm

Sorry, but slapping pirates over a franchise that has nothing really to do with them does not make it awesome, remember Risen 2.

As far as I can remember, this game was originally more or less about assasinating  plot-important villains, not sailing a ship and fucking arund in pirate costume.

Risen Dark Waters sucked because height of the Gothic franchise(which is what Risen is basically part of, wether it likes it or not) died long ago with Jowood, a company thats been bankruped for some time now. And Deep Silver just continued making the exact same mistakes of producing terribly bugged games with crap combatmechanics in Jowoods example.

Id like to say you are wrong. I consider sailing a ship and "fucking arund in a pirate costume" a very nice change of pace. The rooftopthing got really boring long ago and this seemed like the oblivious move, considering the fact that the only thing people really endorsed in AC3 was sailing. So going for pirates is logical. Who else would you sail for anyway? The Assassins Order personal armada?

Nope you still can, but why would any assasin want to become a notorious pirate, and why on earth pirates?

And the protagonist was an pirate first before he was a assassin, which makes sense. Get your faxs straighte!
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Nightmare798 on November 19, 2013, 08:15:21 pm
Risen Dark Waters sucked because height of the Gothic franchise(which is what Risen is basically part of, wether it likes it or not) died long ago with Jowood, a company thats been bankruped for some time now. And Deep Silver just continued making the exact same mistakes of producing terribly bugged games with crap combatmechanics in Jowoods example.

Id like to say you are wrong. I consider sailing a ship and "fucking arund in a pirate costume" a very nice change of pace. The rooftopthing got really boring long ago and this seemed like the oblivious move, considering the fact that the only thing people really endorsed in AC3 was sailing. So going for pirates is logical. Who else would you sail for anyway? The Assassins Order personal armada?

And the protagonist was an pirate first before he was an assassin and that makes sense. Get your faxs straighte!

Meh whatever.

I just dont feel that piracy and sailing fits the assasin creed premise.

Why just not to call it Black flag and ditch the assassins creed bit?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: cmp on November 19, 2013, 08:17:24 pm
Nope you still can, but why would any assasin want to become a notorious pirate

If you bothered to play the game for more than 5 minutes or at least read the plot, you would know that's not the case.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Nightmare798 on November 19, 2013, 08:22:52 pm
If you bothered to play the game for more than 5 minutes or at least read the plot, you would know that's not the case.

OK OK, I see that none of you want to hear my genre and franchise rambling so whatever.

It is just my opinion that there is no need for this guns and pirates bs and instead they should focus on different setting and age, that is all.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Xant on November 19, 2013, 08:55:31 pm
I recommend turning SSI off from HUD options. Makes combat slightly more challenging and the game overall more pleasing to the eye when there aren't floating neon-colored things everywhere.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Molly on November 19, 2013, 11:09:43 pm
SSI?

Good News everyone...

I don't really know why but I noticed that I can already play AC4 although it's supposed to unlock on the 21st... no idea why but I could play just now after finishing the "pre-load".

(click to show/hide)

I am happy that it's running with all eye-candy smooth even inside the city for me. Seems to be better optimized than AC3. Benefit of the NewGen consoles?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Xant on November 20, 2013, 01:48:54 am
SSI off means there's no longer floating attack icons when guards are attacking, so you have to look for the animation to block, and you'll only see mission objectives on the minimap, no floating "KILL!!! 1928 METERS!!!" on the screen.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Molly on November 20, 2013, 07:30:44 am
That sounds fun. I can't remember those icons being removable before. Is it a new "feature" or was it my blindness?

Certainly gonna give it a try. Normally I don't check all the options in a new game. First way is to the gfx settings and then I start the game. Nice tip, appreciate it.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Polobow on November 20, 2013, 03:29:58 pm
Seriously, if you're going to play this, atleast turn off  the health bar, SSL, and most importantly, the mini-map. Doing so actually makes you explore and look around the world, instead of going from map-marker to map-marker. Combat this way is also much more fun.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Molly on November 20, 2013, 04:45:13 pm
Turning off the icons is indeed really nice but I won't turn off the mini-map. I am too lazy to look into every single corner of every single house... and there are a bunch of them.

I can already say that I am enjoying it a lot so far. Even the story seems to be rather interesting - not gonna spoil anything tho and I expect everyone else not to - but I have high hopes for now :P
New setting gives the franchise a nice breeze.

Mi likez... tho the combat seems to be even easier than before but much more fluid too. When you're in a kill animation, they will already start attacking you again. Seems to speed it up a little.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Siiem on November 20, 2013, 05:06:55 pm
Shanties.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Casimir on November 20, 2013, 06:07:50 pm
i heard their were some performance issues, how is it for y'all?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Molly on November 20, 2013, 06:21:48 pm
Runs even better for me than AC3 did...
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Xant on November 20, 2013, 07:22:41 pm
Looks a lot better than AC3 and runs better.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Molly on November 20, 2013, 08:05:24 pm
After hearing the shanties in the Nord-thread I am wondering...

Is there a soundtrack of those shanties? :O
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Siiem on November 20, 2013, 08:12:42 pm
After hearing the shanties in the Nord-thread I am wondering...

Is there a soundtrack of those shanties? :O

Extracted from the game. But not all, but most.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Molly on November 20, 2013, 08:13:35 pm
I want!
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Siiem on November 20, 2013, 08:15:25 pm
Lots!
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Molly on November 20, 2013, 08:22:54 pm
I want as mp3 :3

Already bookmarked that video :D
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Wolfsblood on November 20, 2013, 09:21:34 pm
I never fast travel in that game purely cause of shanties  :D
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Tibe on November 20, 2013, 09:39:52 pm
1:07
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Overdriven on November 20, 2013, 10:33:37 pm
Damn I love that muppets song.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Xant on November 22, 2013, 03:33:00 am
A fight is not won by one punch or kick. Either learn to endure or hire a bodyguard. Forget about winning and losing; forget about pride and pain. Let your opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let him smash into your flesh and you fracture his bones; let him fracture your bones and you take his life. Do not be concerned with escaping safely — lay your life before him.

- Bruce Lee
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 22, 2013, 04:51:48 pm
meh i'll pirate it most likely.  Played the first AC, bro got the 2nd and I was like "meh looks like the first".  I didn't like the repetitiveness.  But my biggest gripe (that they hopefully fixed) with the AC first game, was that you do all this homework on a target, go about stealthily taking out guards, and then it cuts to a scene when you enter an area and can no longer use stealth.  I swear at least half the assassin targets ended up this way.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Xant on November 22, 2013, 09:04:17 pm
Don't worry, they took out the doing homework and stealthily taking out guards part.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 22, 2013, 09:22:36 pm
haha not sure that's a good thing
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Banok on November 23, 2013, 01:08:04 am
I really don't see the problem.

AC has never been hard, it's always been a doddle since the first one because they have always had insta-kill counter attacks. But it's a game that's never been about difficulty. For me it's always been about presenting me with cities, terrain and places that I'd have loved to have seen in those time periods and doing a good job of bringing them alive. And so far (except maybe for AC3) they have fulfilled that for me. To expect any different isn't really realistic, and it also doesn't particularly seem to be what people want considering how well these games sell.

The future side of AC has always been a sideline for me as well and I've never been all that interested in it so I'm not fussed about the plot holes ect.

everytime I am just hoping in vain they drop the future bullshit and just concetrate on the real appeal of the game; time tourism. the just don't have the balls to drop the assassin's creed name tho
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Casimir on November 23, 2013, 06:14:26 am
isn't watch dogs just gunna be ac in modern times?

might as well enjoy the sea shanties while you can?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Tibe on November 23, 2013, 09:10:59 am
There never was any point of doing assassination homework in any of the ACs. You can pretty much just run into any fight and come out of it with ease. Cause the enemies mainly attack in turns, so theres no danger into charging to an entire pile of them. AC would be a superb game if they acctually forced you into stealth, forced you into doing the homework, by making straightforward combat extremely hard. Atm this all scouting and stealth thing feels like pointless cocking around, when almost in all these situations you can just charge in and win with less amount of time. But they probably wont do that. Cause they probably think this easypeasy counter combat makes the protagonist look cool and helps with sales.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Xant on November 23, 2013, 09:32:26 am
Well, the stealth is AC is fucked anyways. Which is retarded. You can't even crouch. So you have to abuse crappy game mechanisms if you want to stealth; such as running around like a retard right in front of guards and into a stack of hay. But hey, that's okay, because the guards apparently have worse memories than goldfish. Rinse and repeat.

That's perhaps my biggest complaint. An assassin game with the crappiest stealth mechanisms ever.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Overdriven on November 23, 2013, 12:15:12 pm
True stealth could be better that's for sure.

Anyway, this arrived yesterday so I installed it. Psyched about getting home from work and playing it tonight.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Molly on November 23, 2013, 01:09:32 pm
True stealth could be better that's for sure.

Anyway, this arrived yesterday so I installed it. Psyched about getting home from work and playing it tonight.
Have a little teaser :)

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I still like it. Compared to boring Italy and lame USoA... the Caribbean is very nice.

And they worked on the stealth which is rather obvious. It is way better than before. Sure, mechanics abuse that Xant mentioned is lame and yes, the combat is piss easy. I still demand of myself to kill as stealthy as possible cuz that's how I wanna play it. If you wanna charge in and kill everyone off... well, if you like to play that way then do it. I think it's weird to complain about it when the game offers both ways you can choose from.
If you barge in... you chose to play that way. The game offers always a way through the trees or jumping bushes - I choose to play that way.

Why would you complain about choice?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 23, 2013, 04:47:10 pm


I still like it. Compared to boring Italy and lame USoA... the Caribbean is very nice.


+1 for acknowledging boring Berlusconi Italy land AC2. All you need is shanties, sun, tropical islands, palm trees, black slaves fighting white devils and you got GOTY 2013.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Xant on November 23, 2013, 09:42:56 pm
If you barge in... you chose to play that way. The game offers always a way through the trees or jumping bushes - I choose to play that way.

Why would you complain about choice?
You can also play with your eyes closed to add challenge. If you have to do that to get challenge, that means the game is flawed. Sure, you can choose to play stealthily, but there's still absolutely zero incentive to do so, and if you get discovered it doesn't matter in the slightest, you just kill everybody. If you get discovered: because of the crappy stealth mechanisms, they had to make the guards total retards, which means getting discovered is very hard.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Banok on November 24, 2013, 06:48:54 am
So started playing anyone else got shit fps? seems horribly optimised for amd, getting beta driver incase it helps.

I played AC1,2,3 and I like them all in many ways, but the controls are still complete ASS. they use 1 or 2 buttons for every major action, so your trying to sprint then your guy is climbing the wrong direction or you tell your guy to jump up and instead he jumps the opposite way and falls all the way down. I get used to it each time but when I start one of these games I really want to beat a puppy to death.

also from what I gather (barely pay attention) the craptastic future justification this time is; your playing genetic memories to make a feature film for absturgo entertainment. that justification could have been explained entirely through the animus, or even just hinted at/implied. instead of us having to to briefly play as a person in the present tense, which is really jarring to the overall imersion of the experience (since that too obviously feels like playing a game, because it IS a game)- especially since this time around its completely non essential to the overall story of the game. not sure I explained myself properly, maybe you understand what I mean.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Xant on November 24, 2013, 09:34:41 am
I just wish there was a separate key for running and freerunning. So annoying to start running up a wall when all you wanted was to run through a gateway or something.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Molly on November 24, 2013, 10:19:19 am
You can also play with your eyes closed to add challenge. If you have to do that to get challenge, that means the game is flawed. Sure, you can choose to play stealthily, but there's still absolutely zero incentive to do so, and if you get discovered it doesn't matter in the slightest, you just kill everybody. If you get discovered: because of the crappy stealth mechanisms, they had to make the guards total retards, which means getting discovered is very hard.
Most of the time you get more money if you do the kill stealthy. Otherwise, I don't disagree with you that the mechanics are flawed but they've put some work in them. It ain't as bad as it used to be.

So started playing anyone else got shit fps? seems horribly optimised for amd, getting beta driver incase it helps.

I played AC1,2,3 and I like them all in many ways, but the controls are still complete ASS. they use 1 or 2 buttons for every major action, so your trying to sprint then your guy is climbing the wrong direction or you tell your guy to jump up and instead he jumps the opposite way and falls all the way down. I get used to it each time but when I start one of these games I really want to beat a puppy to death.

also from what I gather (barely pay attention) the craptastic future justification this time is; your playing genetic memories to make a feature film for absturgo entertainment. that justification could have been explained entirely through the animus, or even just hinted at/implied. instead of us having to to briefly play as a person in the present tense, which is really jarring to the overall imersion of the experience (since that too obviously feels like playing a game, because it IS a game)- especially since this time around its completely non essential to the overall story of the game. not sure I explained myself properly, maybe you understand what I mean.
Intel [email protected], 8GB RAM, HD6870... running like a charm with nearly everything maxed out. As I said before, runs way better on my rig then AC3 did. I am using the Ati Beta 13.8 drivers atm.
And yes, the "future" part is total garbage. Every single time I get ripped out of the "real game" I feel annoyed :(

I just wish there was a separate key for running and freerunning. So annoying to start running up a wall when all you wanted was to run through a gateway or something.
That happens to me quite often too. And having two separate keys would be wonderful. I'm playing with an xbox controller and it happens less often since I do, tapping the freerun button helps a little too. Everytime I see a passage I wanna run through not up I release the button for a brief moment. He doesn't instantly stop running but slows down over distance... it helps.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Overdriven on November 24, 2013, 10:33:11 am
So started playing anyone else got shit fps? seems horribly optimised for amd, getting beta driver incase it helps.

Mines running fine on my radeon 5750 HD and phenom 2 x4 955. I have all the normal setting on high. I've only turned shadows from soft shadows to high normal and the ssao stuff off as I know that always drops my fps.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Tibe on November 24, 2013, 11:03:22 am
The out of the Animusparts are frustratic as hell. I think that they are trying to show the pretty building they worked so hard on, so they forcefully rip you out of the Animus and make you take the damn detour in it every once and a while, cause otherwise you wouldnt really even bother getting out of your office.

It was especially cute when I got dragged in the massively stereotypical and insane french accent having CEOs office and he went to the balcony and we had a view of the town. He went "It is a beautiful city isnt it?" or smthing. All I could think of was "jejeje, its nice I quess, can I go back downstairs now and pirate?"
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Spurdospera on November 24, 2013, 06:46:43 pm
I like being pirate. :)
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Malaclypse on November 25, 2013, 10:14:14 pm

I like the sad ones
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: chadz on November 25, 2013, 11:10:33 pm
This is quite an interesting situation. The normal game is as boring as the first one (didn't play 2 and 3, seems like I haven't missed much).

But the Sea stuff is amazing. The difference between the sea gameplay (interesting fights, tactics, multiple weapons that are very well balanced, actual participation in doing stuff) and the normal fighting (press E to win, button smashing while your char autoruns to victory) are so apart from each other that it's gonna be interesting for the future.

The thing is: ubisoft fucked up. If they would have created a new brand, they'd be the winner now. Now they are in this hilarious situation that they fucked up their main franchise. What are they gonna do next? Another Time period? I can't imagine ever playing another AC that has only the boring lame-ass "run towards target and play minigames on the way" gameplay. So they either find something to top the pirate gameplay, which will be damn hard - or go and make 10 pirate sequels. I can already tell it's #2. Either way they're fucked. Funny  :D

If they would have created a new game, with more replayability, and even more cloned from Pirates!, then they would have had the chance to create a goty. Like this, it's a game that doesn't know what it wants to be - and still manages to be better than all ACs before combined.

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Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Havoco on November 25, 2013, 11:47:01 pm
Yeah, I've always wanted a pirate era game similar to silent hunter with depth and an open world. Not to mention the immersion I get with the storms. Being able to manage your crew, design a ship with different gun loadouts, have some scale of boarding combat similar to M&B.


And before u say it, I'm not talking about pirates of the burning sea.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Overdriven on November 25, 2013, 11:49:41 pm
I have to say, this is the best AC in a long while though if not the best. I'm spending hours just gliding around the ocean enjoying it. Not doing all those many missions or anything.

I agree they'll have a hard time taking the franchise anywhere else now that they've introduced this though. There's only so many ways to couple sailing, and an interesting time period. Even if they go to ancient times just running around won't cut it any more.

Anyone been to the far north corner yet?  :P
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Havoco on November 25, 2013, 11:51:04 pm
Lol pirate galleys in roman era
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Overdriven on November 25, 2013, 11:53:06 pm
Well I'm wondering whether the next step could be towards Napoleonic Europe. Pretty obvious how they could incorporate the sea there  :) Mind you doubt they will go that line.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Molly on November 25, 2013, 11:57:58 pm
I love it when the waves are higher and the ship dives done after being on top of it and then the water floods the deck... really awesome. Or those mega waves and the crunching sound of the wood... I've played like 50% now, did a lot of side stuff and I haven't once used the fast travel cuz the sea is so good :D
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 26, 2013, 09:18:18 am
Next AC will be World War 1 or 2 so expect airplanes instead of ships and jumping out of airplanes.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Xant on November 26, 2013, 10:36:09 am
I actually hope so. Making melee something you only do occasionally would make the current melee combat fine.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Tibe on November 26, 2013, 03:20:50 pm
"The saboteur" was pretty much AC in WW2. Only there was no meleecombat, no secret order and the protagonist was a pissed off irishman.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Xant on November 27, 2013, 06:28:02 am
So let me get this straight, it was supposed to be a secret, some sort of a plot twist, that James Kidd is a woman? Wut. Biggest surprise since ever!1111
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Jarold on November 27, 2013, 07:08:53 am
So let me get this straight, it was supposed to be a secret, some sort of a plot twist, that James Kidd is a woman? Wut. Biggest surprise since ever!1111

Yeah I just did that part too! WTF, did someone actually fall for that shit. It was completely obvious!
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: chadz on November 27, 2013, 08:10:30 am
It's not like they came up with that though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Read

But yeah, they really could have hidden that better. I always wondered why that girl has a boys name.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Banok on November 27, 2013, 08:16:02 am
Am I the only one disappointed in the sea combat? I thought they would flesh it out from ac3 considering its no longer a sidequest, but its identical. it could have been way more interesting/tactical than a 1 button quick-time event.

sure it is better than the ground combat, press counter to win, but not by much.

@havoco and yes sailing through a storm is fucking epic, and does make me dream of a m&b style ship game, remember this? http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,199081.0.html

but we're never gona get a game that can make ships look good as ac4 and doesn't have completely shallow game-mechanics. very few games let us have our cake and eat it (gfx+gameplay)

So let me get this straight, it was supposed to be a secret, some sort of a plot twist, that James Kidd is a woman? Wut. Biggest surprise since ever!1111

I was like wtf is that supposed to be a boy or a girl? I decided that it was supposed to be an adolescent boy but they decided to get a female to voice him, for some stupid reason. so silly me, I actually didn't predict it, but it wasn't exactly a shock!
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Molly on November 27, 2013, 10:00:03 am
It took a while but now I realized that it actually gives quite the advantage to have someone as UPlay "friend" who's playing AC4 too...

...like those White Whale locations, shorter travel time for the fleet. Things like that.

Since I don't wanna invite just random people: My UPlay-nickname is "kamelle".

Invite! :wink:
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Nessaj on November 27, 2013, 02:57:27 pm
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Xant on November 27, 2013, 03:01:43 pm
Watched a minute from the middle, the guy playing almost dies in melee because the only thing he does is spam mouse1. I didn't think anyone could be challenged by the combat, but I guess I was wrong.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Spurdospera on November 27, 2013, 05:02:19 pm
Watched a minute from the middle, the guy playing almost dies in melee because the only thing he does is spam mouse1. I didn't think anyone could be challenged by the combat, but I guess I was wrong.
Yeah, melee is basically just spamming one button and occasionally counter. Sometimes them enemies can kill you in melee, but that only happens during horrible frame drops because my PC can´t always handle all the shit happening in screen because of bad optimization ubisoft did with PC port. :(
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Zhyang on November 27, 2013, 08:49:43 pm
It took a while but now I realized that it actually gives quite the advantage to have someone as UPlay "friend" who's playing AC4 too...

...like those White Whale locations, shorter travel time for the fleet. Things like that.

Since I don't wanna invite just random people: My UPlay-nickname is "kamelle".

Invite! :wink:
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add me if you want my nick is Peter_pan555.
lol
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 28, 2013, 10:04:46 am
Haven't gotten far in the game but there better be a Kraken in the game and a Ghost Ship.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Molly on November 28, 2013, 10:20:21 am
Haven't gotten far in the game but there better be a Kraken in the game and a Ghost Ship.
There are Ghost Ships of sort... check the 4 far corners of the map...
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Tibe on November 28, 2013, 11:45:14 am
Those are those massive legendary ships? Tried to fight one, when my ship was badly upgraded. I was in the bottom of the sea in 5 seconds.

I liked Blackbeards ship hell of a lot more then mine after that one mission where you take out a man-o-war with it. I wish I could have used that the rest of the game. Acctually I thought the fact that Blackbeard was in this game and your bff totally stupid. I acctually consider the idea of major historical icons being best buddies with the protagonists in ACs completely silly. I dunno why, but it always feels completely cheesy.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Molly on November 28, 2013, 11:55:49 am
Yea, I already thought that it would be nice not being limited to one ship but having the possibility to choose.

Get a Man o' War for awesome firepower and high armor but be more or less a sitting duck against a nimble brig. Or use a Frigate as a compromise of both. Maybe even allow a Schooner for glasscannon quickness...

I wonder why they don't allow that. Maybe balance issues, maybe development time too short... That would have been great.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Tibe on November 28, 2013, 02:45:21 pm
Didnt want the man-o-war. Just Blackbeards ship. It was nimble, looked cool and it shot 2 cannon volleys in a row.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Molly on November 28, 2013, 03:23:29 pm
Iirc you get the 2 volleys too when you upgrade the round shot to max, don't you? Not sure though...
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Tibe on November 28, 2013, 04:02:28 pm
I used the trainer somewhere at the middle of the game. I got seriuslly bored so I maxed out everything I could so I could sprint trough the story. I cant get everything absolutely maxed out, cause I have to search for the "elite upgrades" to get the last upgrades. Maxing the round shot does not add an extra volley nor does adding more cannons. So I quess u cant.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Banok on November 28, 2013, 06:36:35 pm
It was a huge disapointment when I realised I wouldn't be getting bigger/different ships just using the same small ship to take on entire fleets, via the extremely shallow upgrade system. Yes shallow, there's a pun in there somewhere.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Overdriven on November 28, 2013, 06:54:38 pm
Yeah I was disappointed by that to. Especially as you capture much bigger ships. But alas this shall suffice and I'm having to much fun anyhow.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 28, 2013, 07:52:06 pm
Just me who found out the cheap easy gay way to get the shanty's? By just marking it on the map and then walking towards it backwards without looking at it which in turn prevents it from flying away?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Molly on November 28, 2013, 08:28:02 pm
Really? lol
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Tibe on November 28, 2013, 09:38:32 pm
Hahaha. That sounds so silly.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: LordBerenger on November 28, 2013, 10:22:17 pm
Hahaha. That sounds so silly.

Yeah but it works lol. I was so angry when they just flew away and almost impossible to catch them. So i just marked it once and then i noticed that it moves when you look at it up close.

If you just know where it is and tilt the camera in the opposite direction but your move your character towards where the shanty is it won't even move lol. Easy.

Anyhow. Loving it so far. Soundtrack is perfect. Love this time period as well. Gotta be my fave alongside WW2. Combat isn't as bad as so many makes it to be. It's about assassination anyhow so.

However i dislike the multiplayer. It's so confusing and there's barely any stealth element to it because everyone just runs around like retards following the heart rate directional thingie.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Jarold on November 29, 2013, 07:56:13 am
Iirc you get the 2 volleys too when you upgrade the round shot to max, don't you? Not sure though...

I got the elite heavy shot and you fire two volley's with that. Not as cool as Blackbeard's ship though. I love the missions where you can pilot man o' wars, they're soooo fuuun!
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Casimir on December 02, 2013, 11:10:33 pm
Just found out that the actor for Kenway is from Swansea, geddon boyo!
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Molly on December 02, 2013, 11:54:21 pm
Aye, mate. Guess what... ye likes turtles too... :wink:
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Havoco on December 03, 2013, 05:26:05 am
Just found out that the actor for Kenway is from Swansea, geddon boyo!

Lol an actor actually acting his nationality. That's a new one.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: LordBerenger on December 03, 2013, 09:44:11 am
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One of the best characters alongside
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Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Molly on December 03, 2013, 10:21:01 am
Yesterday I tried this "walking backwards" to a shanty cuz I failed to get it after the 3rd try... that actually works :lol:
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: LordBerenger on December 03, 2013, 11:19:07 am
Yesterday I tried this "walking backwards" to a shanty cuz I failed to get it after the 3rd try... that actually works :lol:

I always try to find exploits in any game i play :D Inb4 exploit to get easy metal and wood
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Casimir on December 03, 2013, 02:09:34 pm
Lol an actor actually acting his nationality. That's a new one.

You yanks wouldn't understand.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Kafein on December 03, 2013, 06:46:19 pm
I liked AC1's storytelling, in AC2 I think they attempted to increase the game's lifetime but it simply doesn't work as the gameplay was still oversimplified. Stopped after that.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Molly on December 03, 2013, 07:41:44 pm
I liked AC1's storytelling, in AC2 I think they attempted to increase the game's lifetime but it simply doesn't work as the gameplay was still oversimplified. Stopped after that.
Personally I just really enjoy the living history they create or at least the impression of life in a certain timeframe.

I thought AC1 was really exciting. Jerusalem! That was cool and tbh I hope they redo that timeframe with a bit more salt in it.
AC2 and their brothers... well, didn't finish them cuz they lacked something. I can't really say what it was tho. I just wasn't excited about it.
I played through AC3 for some reason which I can't define :P
AC4 - I love it. It's cool to be a pirate :wink:

I'd like to see maybe Egypt or Ancient Rome with Nero or something... Or French Revolution... Maybe WW1?

Just please Ubisoft... stop calling it Assassin's Creed. AC4 shouldn't have that name either. They should have called it "ARRR Pirates!" or something...
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Overdriven on December 03, 2013, 07:41:54 pm
Just found out that the actor for Kenway is from Swansea, geddon boyo!

Eh really? I swear there's a thing in the animus notes where it apologises for the actor not having a Welsh accent. They had to change it to make it more understandable  :P
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Xant on December 03, 2013, 08:08:04 pm
AC1 had the best setting. But they didn't do much with it, which is a damn shame.

Seriously, I wish they'd revisit the Crusades, because not only is it an interesting time frame, there's also plenty of real history to build on, considering there was a real assassin order back then. Learning more about the Nizari Ismailis and the fida'i would be really cool... but who am I kidding, that would take a developer who wasn't as Casual as they come. Ubisoft's casualized so many series. Splinter Cell, Rainbow Six, Ghost Recon, the list goes on. I guess what I really want is some sort of a CD Projekt Red/Bioware/Assassin's Creed mix of the Crusades.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: LordBerenger on December 03, 2013, 09:03:07 pm
I could've fucking sworn i found an Abstergo database thingie where the developers of the fictional games in that world where talking about what new eras to explore if there's more etc..

And the icon for that piece was a man with what looked like a cowboy hat on him (shadowed though so hard to see).

Inb4 Wild West Assassin's Creed 5.




Also dat accent (DATS A LOY)

Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Jarold on December 04, 2013, 03:57:50 am
Did anybody else like how the game ended as much as I did? By ending I mean the credits and end cut scene.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: LordBerenger on December 04, 2013, 11:47:31 am
Did anybody else like how the game ended as much as I did? By ending I mean the credits and end cut scene.

Never played Assassin's Creed III but pretty good ending. Sucky though that basically all characters from the beginning were gone and dead by the end of the game. Almost 90% sync but don't wanna go down the underwater wreckages again.

Fuck those scary eels.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Gnjus on December 04, 2013, 01:09:19 pm
Probably already posted but still:


Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: LordBerenger on December 05, 2013, 12:31:17 am

DEM FEELS
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Molly on December 09, 2013, 08:04:41 pm
Just finished the game... Nope, I can't say I saw that one coming :o

Though I feel the whole "endgame" seems a bit rushed for some reason... like they had to wrap it up quickly story wise.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Knife on December 09, 2013, 09:54:30 pm
Two things:

1) Nothing better than sailing whilst listening to famous sea shanties

2) Multiplayer's servers are bad as usual for Ubisoft's games by the looks of it. Not to mention the bad performance (Last I played it then it was locked to 30 fps?)
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Molly on December 09, 2013, 10:14:10 pm
I haven't started the MP even once and I probably won't... Couldn't care less about multiplayer in a single player game.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: LordBerenger on December 10, 2013, 11:46:45 am
I haven't started the MP even once and I probably won't... Couldn't care less about multiplayer in a single player game.

Don't. It makes me rage at a game which is hard to do. It's not stealth at all. It's like a fricking rush kind of game. Got the heartbeat sensor thingie which points you towards your enemies, limited time for using disguises etc....

IMO it would've been better if AC MP was Free Roam like Red Dead Redemption/GTA
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Patoson on December 27, 2013, 08:46:42 pm
Is the Deluxe version worth it?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: bilwit on December 28, 2013, 04:11:39 am
Just finished the game... Nope, I can't say I saw that one coming :o

Though I feel the whole "endgame" seems a bit rushed for some reason... like they had to wrap it up quickly story wise.

I thought the story came around and delivered at the end, except the execution in terms of the story build up was really poor, especially handling all the characters like Blackbeard, Mary, etc. I found the story incredibly underwhelming up until things start snowballing after Blackbeard dies (no that is not a spoiler, open up a history book). All in all, I came away with a pretty decent impression on this game, though for some reason I found AC3 more compelling and fun.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Casimir on December 28, 2013, 01:46:28 pm
25% off on steam for those who haven't checked
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Molly on December 28, 2013, 02:45:04 pm
Is the Deluxe version worth it?
I have to say No. Quite a lot of stuff is for MP anyway. Personally, I haven't started that even once. And those items you get in the Deluxe are not even really better than the gear you get regularly.

I thought the story came around and delivered at the end, except the execution in terms of the story build up was really poor, especially handling all the characters like Blackbeard, Mary, etc. I found the story incredibly underwhelming up until things start snowballing after Blackbeard dies (no that is not a spoiler, open up a history book). All in all, I came away with a pretty decent impression on this game, though for some reason I found AC3 more compelling and fun.

Funny fact: AC3 was the only one I actually played through before AC4. The parts before bored me too early for me to pull through to the end.

Overall I really enjoyed the game which is mostly due to the awesome pirating part in it. Though I'd consider the story solid. I like the approach of Kenway not being Templar nor Assassin right from the start. The selfish part was entertaining, I think.

Good game which might have been even better w/o it even being connected to AC but a standalone title by itself. Worst part was this useless nonsense outside the Animus. That was actually really, really bad. Luckily just a very small part of the overall game.

25% off on steam for those who haven't checked
Here it's just 25€. That's another 12€ less than the German pricing Steam sale but it's a UPlay key. (http://www.g2play.net/store/Assassin-s-Creed-IV-Black-Flag-English-Only-Uplay-Key.html)
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 4
Post by: Patoson on December 28, 2013, 07:06:26 pm
30 Gb OMFG!!!