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cRPG => Beginner's Help and Guides => Topic started by: Goat_Fighter on November 10, 2013, 06:31:29 am
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Im going 1h next gen and im going to have the this armor
its a heavy armor set for 1h but I think it will be good
Sugarloaf Helmet
Heraldic Transitional Armour
Gauntlets
Iron Greaves
Heavy heater shield
And I don't know what 1h I would like to use im kinda sticking to the medieval kind of style like war hammers, swords, stuff like that like the Templars would carry or something.
or if you have a better armour choice for me I will be glad I am suggesting a style kind of like the clan Acre
so yeah any help would be appreciated AND DONT FORGET TO POST THE BUILDS!
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Instead of round shield ill upgrade the shield to the heavy heater shield
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you are going to be really slow and people will abuse the fuck out of kick on you if you dont have a long reach 1h. so pick something with 100+ reach. Long Espada is always fun.
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Thanks for responding
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alright so
Sugarloaf Helmet
Heraldic Transitional Armour
Gauntlets
Iron Greaves
Heavy heater shield
Long espada Eslavona +3
is that good you think?
all I need know is a build
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Elders practice dagger.
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If you're going to invest in a +3 weapon, you might as well use an unloomed one first and see if you like the gameplay
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You are not obligated to carry an overly long one-handed weapon.
What you've got to do is adjust your playstyle based upon the length of the weapon you decide to use. If you're a shielder in heavy armour, you aren't going to be chasing anyone with more than 6 athletics down. If they relentlessly press their S-key, have the presence of mind to just WALK THE FUCK AWAY. If you're using a long weapon, sometimes you can catch a moderately (at best) damaging blow to them, but often they'll still just be a pure headache to fight. You're going to give yourself a much harder time than is needed by chasing people that want to run away from you. Fight with your teammates, try to block them from ranged and if they get knocked down or ganged up on. It's always very nice to put your shield in-between a disadvantaged teammate and danger.
But for god's sake, don't get in the way of someone dueling or a situation in which your guys already have the advantage. And whatever you do, don't stand directly behind any melee players holding your shield up. It'll prevent them from overheading and get them fucked.
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longsword ofc
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any builds? with this
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would a warhammer be recommended?
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I've always loved my Knightly Arming Sword (Long Arming sword has same stats, but weaker stab, and cheaper). It's kind of expensive, and I'd suggest having AT LEAST 6 powerstrike (7 or more is preferred). Also I'd recommend using a lighter shield (1 slot), something like a knightly heater shield (which I use). Has very high resistance "armor", very fast, and the coverage has never been an issue for me.
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Warhammer all the way dude, it WRECKS shit
I go 21/15 build wise, with a hand pavise and heavy kuyak
Makes me slow and I have zero reach, but with 7ps+knockdown i kill what I hit
A more agi based build would suit the warhammer just fine, the base dmg on the hammer make up for less ps and the extra speed really helps with the short reach.
Ofcourse with the new WPF changes and shit, idk if 21/15 would still be viable,
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I've always loved my Knightly Arming Sword (Long Arming sword has same stats, but weaker stab, and cheaper). It's kind of expensive, and I'd suggest having AT LEAST 6 powerstrike (7 or more is preferred). Also I'd recommend using a lighter shield (1 slot), something like a knightly heater shield (which I use). Has very high resistance "armor", very fast, and the coverage has never been an issue for me.
Long Arming Sword is 1 less cut, not 1 less pierce. I prefer the Long over Knightly as the 1c difference is easily overcome by held attacks and sweetspot timing, while having much lower repair. That lower price means you can take a secondary (or use the LAS as secondary) weapon like a mace/pick to deal with armour, while having the sword to deal with cloth/backpedalers.
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I actually like Knightly Arming Sword with my 24-18 build and I do recommend getting a long weapon if you use high str build.
Spathion is like improved version of KAS, it has 2 more stab damage (3 if masterworked) but 1 less speed.
What bothers me about it though is the dark look which probably means it'd be easier for enemies to block its swings. Can anyone confirm/refute it? Would be nice to hear some opinions.
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My personal favourites are Italian Sword, Military Hammer and Military Cleaver, and since the stab buff the side sword too.
Yet again, I play mostly siege, where the slightly shorter length of these wrt lee, ncs, kas, etc plays in my favour. In battle it might be different though.
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I love 1h weapons. There are so many good ones, and they are so versatile, you have a LOT of choices. You really should try a bunch out and see what you like before committing to a loom.
I also like western/euro weapons, so we have similar tastes. These are the weapons I recommend. You can use them with almost any semi-balanced build with any armor. Just use what you like and what looks cool to you.
Swords:
Grosse Messer
Langes Messer
Italian Sword
Broad Short Sword
Nordic War Sword
Knightly arming Sword
Nordic Champ Sword
Maces/hammers/picks:
Iberian Mace
Warhammer
Spathovaklion
Military Hammer
Steel Pick
Military Pick
Axes:
One Handed Battle Axe
Broad One Handed Battle Axe
Fighting Axe -(some ppl may be surprised by this, I was surprised too)
This is probably not helpful, but really there are so many good 1h weapons, it's hard to go wrong.
edit: This is not just a list of good 1h weapons, its a list of the ones I like to use. Other people have great success with cleavers and espadas -- as well as others. Give it a try!
I find in general there are 3 types of 1h weapons. Longer swords (Italian, KAS), shorter swords (Broad Short, Grosse), and short-powerfuls (Axes, hammers, picks). They have different play styles -- so once you figure out what "class" of weapon you like you can narrow down the specific weapon from there.
If you want to try out some of these but don't have the gold to buy them all, PM me and I can lend you some!
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I actually like Knightly Arming Sword with my 24-18 build and I do recommend getting a long weapon if you use high str build.
Spathion is like improved version of KAS, it has 2 more stab damage (3 if masterworked) but 1 less speed.
What bothers me about it though is the dark look which probably means it'd be easier for enemies to block its swings. Can anyone confirm/refute it? Would be nice to hear some opinions.
When I used it, people blocked more often, but it also may be because it's just slower. It's a really good defensive weapon for a keepaway style.
I wouldn't recommend the overly long 1hs since overheads can bounce on the ground. If you don't plan on using overheads much, it's fine, but 97-98 length and lower are all good.
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I actually like Knightly Arming Sword with my 24-18 build and I do recommend getting a long weapon if you use high str build.
Spathion is like improved version of KAS, it has 2 more stab damage (3 if masterworked) but 1 less speed.
What bothers me about it though is the dark look which probably means it'd be easier for enemies to block its swings. Can anyone confirm/refute it? Would be nice to hear some opinions.
Love my +3 KAS as well (with 21 str/7 PS), love the length of it (which is very important in battle, IMO), especially if you have somewhat heavy armor or not a lot of athletics. Darker weapons are hard as fuck to see when it's dark or even somewhat dark out in the maps. It makes them harder to see, not easier.
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When I used it, people blocked more often, but it also may be because it's just slower. It's a really good defensive weapon for a keepaway style.
I wouldn't recommend the overly long 1hs since overheads can bounce on the ground. If you don't plan on using overheads much, it's fine, but 97-98 length and lower are all good.
The long 1hs are best for 1h cav, though. That (and range control on ground) is what I mainly use my LAS for. 95-99 length is the best overall on the ground, though.
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I love 1h weapons. There are so many good ones, and they are so versatile, you have a LOT of choices. You really should try a bunch out and see what you like before committing to a loom.
I also like western/euro weapons, so we have similar tastes. These are the weapons I recommend. You can use them with almost any semi-balanced build with any armor. Just use what you like and what looks cool to you.
Swords:
Grosse Messer
Langes Messer
Italian Sword
Broad Short Sword
Nordic War Sword
Knightly arming Sword
Nordic Champ Sword
Maces/hammers/picks:
Iberian Mace
Warhammer
Spathovaklion
Military Hammer
Steel Pick
Military Pick
Axes:
One Handed Battle Axe
Broad One Handed Battle Axe
Fighting Axe -(some ppl may be surprised by this, I was surprised too)
This is probably not helpful, but really there are so many good 1h weapons, it's hard to go wrong.
edit: This is not just a list of good 1h weapons, its a list of the ones I like to use. Other people have great success with cleavers and espadas -- as well as others. Give it a try!
I find in general there are 3 types of 1h weapons. Longer swords (Italian, KAS), shorter swords (Broad Short, Grosse), and short-powerfuls (Axes, hammers, picks). They have different play styles -- so once you figure out what "class" of weapon you like you can narrow down the specific weapon from there.
If you want to try out some of these but don't have the gold to buy them all, PM me and I can lend you some!
There is also a sub-catagory called thrust oriented swords in my opinion. :)
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I wouldn't recommend the overly long 1hs since overheads can bounce on the ground. If you don't plan on using overheads much, it's fine, but 97-98 length and lower are all good.
That's true, but I feel like I lose a lot of possibilities of outranging 2h/polearm users with my rightswing when I use anything shorter than 100.
I play with range a lot, especially in duels, so length seems to be important for me.
Darker weapons are hard as fuck to see when it's dark or even somewhat dark out in the maps. It makes them harder to see, not easier.
That makes sense though. It's good that I have you to blame if I fail with mw Spathion I just bought. :D
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Thanks for replying guys I have now a good idea of a build thanks