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Title: Ranged stun..
Post by: Panos_ on November 02, 2013, 01:03:26 pm
Since the amount of ranged on the servers is really high, maybe it`s time to remove the ranged stun totally, or at least nerf it.

What do you guys think??
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Varadin on November 02, 2013, 01:06:22 pm
as always u got +1 from me albanian cunt :)
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Huscarlton_Banks on November 02, 2013, 01:12:00 pm
The stun looks a bit silly when you get hit for like 5-8% of your health bar, video somewhat related.

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Kind of makes sense when you get hit by something like a bolt from an arbalest or a throwing lance though.


Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: _GTX_ on November 02, 2013, 01:24:30 pm
The stun looks a bit silly when you get hit for like 5-8% of your health bar, video somewhat related.

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Kind of makes sense when you get hit by something like a bolt from an arbalest or a throwing lance though.

Realism is not an argument, never is in c-rpg.

And +1 from me. When i agree with panos, its very serious.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Fuma Kotaro on November 02, 2013, 01:26:49 pm
Realism is not an argument, never is in c-rpg.

And +1 from me. When i agree with panos, its very serious.

When you agree with panos then the two QQ paths have found each other for a short time
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Panos_ on November 02, 2013, 01:28:00 pm
When you agree with panos then the two QQ paths have found each other for a short time

After the stun, we should nerf 1h stab  :twisted:
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Fuma Kotaro on November 02, 2013, 01:29:59 pm
After the stun, we should nerf 1h stab  :twisted:
I'm fine with that I hate  the opness of the 1h stab it needs a serious nerf even tho I'm 1h myself
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Tibe on November 02, 2013, 01:32:16 pm
1h stab is a broken gamemechanic atm. Id definately jump on that bandwagon.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: _GTX_ on November 02, 2013, 01:34:37 pm
When you agree with panos then the two QQ paths have found each other for a short time
Keep the hating and insulting goin, whatever.
1h stab is a broken gamemechanic atm. Id definately jump on that bandwagon.
I would join u.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Chasey on November 02, 2013, 01:39:18 pm
pole stun got removed, I don't see why archer stun couldnt
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Fips on November 02, 2013, 01:48:45 pm
How about no. Only ranged stun that should be nerfed (or even removed) is the one that actually throws you back a little. The small stun you get from low dmg should definitely stay oO
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Grumbs on November 02, 2013, 01:53:49 pm
You get stunned even from a 0 damage shot from a team mate, its pretty badly implemented.

The root forces you to accelerate again, which is horrible for heavy armour which should really protect better than light armour.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Prpavi on November 02, 2013, 02:05:08 pm
I love how you open up a thread about the problem, like any of the devs will actually give a fuck.  :lol:

Stop bothering, it`s a lot easier.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Ellie on November 02, 2013, 02:10:10 pm
I say no. Would make my rock thrower completely useless since I play support and stagger people mid combat to help allies.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: SugarHoe on November 02, 2013, 02:40:25 pm
+1 a little short bow stunning you and doing .001 percent is ridiculous but I don't think it should be taken off, should be nerfed or something, same as in a stone or something retarded.  If it was taken off completely it's probably a bit much because if an arb shoots ya it should be able to stun you, fur relizm
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: jtobiasm on November 02, 2013, 02:52:53 pm
Yeah remove the stun and then lower the weight of the all the arrows.

#BringBackKiting
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Fartface on November 02, 2013, 03:06:53 pm
I made a post about this aswel, I certainly agreee!
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: En_Dotter on November 02, 2013, 03:08:46 pm
No need to remove stun. Just give 2h heroes healing potions that instantly heal to full hp. Also no cool down on potions and make them 0 slot and 5 in the stack with 0 kg weight. Make +3 potions heal all 2h heroes in 50m radius as well.
Fixed.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Penitent on November 02, 2013, 03:12:53 pm
Move to balance/ suggestions
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: En_Dotter on November 02, 2013, 03:14:48 pm
Move to balance/ suggestions The Chamber of Tears.
Fixed as well.
Wow! Im patching those posts so fast i wish devs would follow me and patch cRPG more often.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: _GTX_ on November 02, 2013, 03:15:27 pm
QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ 2h nerfed, but not enough QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ. Did not get buffed in this patch like other classes, but its somehow still op QQQQQQQQQQQ. I love stunning for a longer time than any other melee class, plz no nerf.
So, do u play archer?
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Templar_Steevee on November 02, 2013, 03:15:56 pm
Removing stun is not a good solution. It should be fixed.
Below some amount of dmg there shouldn`t be a stun, with rising dmg player get with a missile, stun should be longer, but with defined maximum duration time. 
Let`s say that maximum stun duration is one we have atm after getting shot from  strongest x-bow. Rest should be  lower than it.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: _GTX_ on November 02, 2013, 03:16:54 pm
Removing stun is not a good solution. It should be fixed.
Below some amound of dmg there shouldn`t be a stun, with rising dmg player get with a missile, stun should be longer, but with defined maximum duration time. 
Let`s say that maximum stun duration is one we have atm after getting shot from  strongest x-bow. Rest should be  lower than it.
Well i voted for nerfing it, so this sounds pretty fitting tbh. I can accept that the strongest xbow would fuck me over in melee, since it does take some time for that weapon to get a shot of, compared to the bows.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: En_Dotter on November 02, 2013, 03:23:46 pm
Removing stun is not a good solution. It should be fixed.
Below some amount of dmg there shouldn`t be a stun, with rising dmg player get with a missile, stun should be longer, but with defined maximum duration time. 
Let`s say that maximum stun duration is one we have atm after getting shot from  strongest x-bow. Rest should be  lower than it.

Np, but do the same with melee damage. When i wear plate armor and a peasant with a dagger (normal dagger) stabs me i get stunned but my hp bar doesnt even move.

BUFF 2H!
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Algarn on November 02, 2013, 03:25:55 pm
Well i voted for nerfing it, so this sounds pretty fitting tbh. I can accept that the strongest xbow would fuck me over in melee, since it does take some time for that weapon to get a shot of, compared to the bows.

What bows are you talking about ? I think that's normal to be stunned by a longbow/rus bow arrow's. (but I have to agree with you on a part, nomad bows/and short bows are ridiculous). Just nerf stun below 15 damages done on a target, a armored guy should not be stun because a tiny short bow shot him once.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Tzar on November 02, 2013, 03:27:07 pm
As a thrower i support removal of ranged stun except on throwing weapons Hah  :lol:
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Templar_Steevee on November 02, 2013, 03:53:11 pm
compared to the bows.

Long and rus bows with bodkins hurts a lot even tincans, you should remember that. With long bow and bodkins I can kill most players with 3 shots.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Ras_FrenzYYY on November 02, 2013, 03:56:07 pm
Since the amount of ranged on the servers is really high, maybe it`s time to remove the ranged stun totally, or at least nerf it.

What do you guys think??

2 down thousands to go....(Prosexe pitsirika min arazeis poli ekso)

2/11/2013
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Panos_ on November 02, 2013, 04:00:38 pm
2 down thousands to go....(Prosexe pitsirika min arazeis poli ekso)

2/11/2013

Σκατα στον ταφο του Φυσσα, μαλακισμενο γαμω το μουνι της μανας σου, θα υπαρξουν αντιποινα, να το θυμασαι αυτο..
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Molly on November 02, 2013, 04:25:29 pm
Removing stun is not a good solution. It should be fixed.
Below some amount of dmg there shouldn`t be a stun, with rising dmg player get with a missile, stun should be longer, but with defined maximum duration time. 
Let`s say that maximum stun duration is one we have atm after getting shot from  strongest x-bow. Rest should be  lower than it.
QFT

2 down thousands to go[...]
:D
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Panos_ on November 02, 2013, 04:30:44 pm

:D

Do you think its funny ??
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Molly on November 02, 2013, 04:31:26 pm
Do you think its funny ??
As funny as you think hunting "communists" is... yes.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Panos_ on November 02, 2013, 04:34:53 pm
As funny as you think hunting "communists" is... yes.

I`m glad you find it funny, because since yesterday, the hunting season is open once again in Greece :)

Stay tuned in your TV`s for the news..  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: _GTX_ on November 02, 2013, 04:37:26 pm
Long and rus bows with bodkins hurts a lot even tincans, you should remember that. With long bow and bodkins I can kill most players with 3 shots.
I dont feel like bows should fuck you over so badly, they alrdy do a great amount of dmg, as you alrdy mentioned. They can also fire the shots at a pretty decent rate, specialy compared to the xbows.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Molly on November 02, 2013, 04:45:16 pm
I`m glad you find it funny, because since yesterday, the hunting season is open once again in Greece :)

Stay tuned in your TV`s for the news..  :rolleyes:
I rarely care about some people in a 3rd world country shooting each other tbh...
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Rumblood on November 02, 2013, 04:45:31 pm
Waaa fucking Waaa  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: rufio on November 02, 2013, 04:46:50 pm
ive been posting this for ever  :lol: atleast half the stagger
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: _GTX_ on November 02, 2013, 04:54:24 pm
Waaa fucking Waaa  :rolleyes:
Your kidding right? You could write this in every possible balance thread that has ever been created, so the fact that you only seem to write it in specific balance threads.... derp.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Tibe on November 02, 2013, 05:01:29 pm
I`m glad you find it funny, because since yesterday, the hunting season is open once again in Greece :)

Stay tuned in your TV`s for the news..  :rolleyes:

With what do you hunt? You are too lazy to learn archery, or make spears and you too poor to buy bullets. Sticks and stones may break my bones, but greeks will never get me.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Panos_ on November 02, 2013, 05:09:17 pm
I rarely care about some people in a 3rd world country shooting each other tbh...

Better poor and proud, rather hailing from a nazee murdering past,  :wink:

Besides, we maybe poor now, but no matter what, sooner or later, we are gonna be ok, Greeks always survive, but you Germans on the other hand, you will always have that nazee stench on you no matter what you do, and besides, if Germans actually were to pay the war  reparations to Greece, things would be quite different.

Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Xant on November 02, 2013, 05:35:50 pm
Well, Panos, they are still so ashamed about it that you aren't even allowed to have your own contrary-to-the-government opinion about their actions in WW2, or you go to jail. Because what better way to show that you're not the same country you were in the past than to trample on freedom of speech?
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Molly on November 02, 2013, 05:37:39 pm
Better poor and proud, rather hailing from a nazee murdering past,  :wink:

Besides, we maybe poor now, but no matter what, sooner or later, we are gonna be ok, Greeks always survive, but you Germans on the other hand, you will always have that nazee stench on you no matter what you do, and besides, if Germans actually were to pay the war  reparations to Greece, things would be quite different.
Should have written "inb4 Panos gets the NS-card out of his empty pockets and starts rambling about reparations." You bore me with your nonsense...

Well, Panos, they are still so ashamed about it that you aren't even allowed to have your own contrary-to-the-government opinion about their actions in WW2, or you go to jail. Because what better way to show that you're not the same country you were in the past than to trample on freedom of speech?
:lol:
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Palurgee on November 02, 2013, 06:56:21 pm
You get stunned even from a 0 damage shot from a team mate, its pretty badly implemented.

The root forces you to accelerate again, which is horrible for heavy armour which should really protect better than light armour.

no you don't
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Teeth on November 02, 2013, 07:02:32 pm
Having given Native a shot recently I can confidently say that ranged stun in cRPG has already been much reduced in duration compared to Native, the stagger takes forever in Native. I don't find it that bad in it's current spot. Would be really weird to see someone fighting and getting pierced by arrows and suddenly dying without ever flinching.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Dark_Blade on November 02, 2013, 07:31:56 pm
You get stunned even from a 0 damage shot from a team mate, its pretty badly implemented.
this
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Palurgee on November 02, 2013, 11:19:09 pm
since some of you splerglings seem not to understand that low damage shots do not cause stagger:

Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: jtobiasm on November 02, 2013, 11:34:20 pm
Always the shit melee players complaining about ranged. I suggest you go play some counter strike and learn some game sense. Maybe you won't get shot as much.

inb4 JTOBIASM UR SHIT ARCHER SRS
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Rumblood on November 02, 2013, 11:39:48 pm
Your kidding right? You could write this in every possible balance thread that has ever been created, so the fact that you only seem to write it in specific balance threads.... derp.

My legitimate response to this request was written in the 18 other threads from the same minority demanding the same thing. After 3 years of "nerf archery" that resulted in every single patch ever done making changes to archery, so much so that there was no more blood to be squeezed from that rock, now the whining is to reduce their effectiveness by removing the feature that makes archery one of the best team play classes in game. Nobody can save a teammate from being ganked like they can. Nobody. I'm sick of the damn whining and demands to nerf the class, so Waaa fucking Waaa is the only response this kind of shit deserves anymore.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: XyNox on November 03, 2013, 12:31:16 am
My legitimate response to this request was written in the 18 other threads from the same minority demanding the same thing. After 3 years of "nerf archery" that resulted in every single patch ever done making changes to archery, so much so that there was no more blood to be squeezed from that rock, now the whining is to reduce their effectiveness by removing the feature that makes archery one of the best team play classes in game. Nobody can save a teammate from being ganked like they can. Nobody. I'm sick of the damn whining and demands to nerf the class, so Waaa fucking Waaa is the only response this kind of shit deserves anymore.

Well said friend, although I am afraid some people wont understand even if they get told in another 18 threads. Actually, as you are an admin, I can hardly imagine how hard it must be for you to not instantly ban certain people for excessive stupidity.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Ras_FrenzYYY on November 03, 2013, 12:32:36 am
Σκατα στον ταφο του Φυσσα, μαλακισμενο γαμω το μουνι της μανας σου, θα υπαρξουν αντιποινα, να το θυμασαι αυτο..

Pou tha iparksoun antipoina re xazouli?sta mpravilikia?pliromeni dolofonoi apo palikarakia tis nixtas itan i doulia..

Den exeis idea ti einai ta tipakia pou psifises?

Den exeis idea pou itan mpravoi kai se pious?

Panouli ksipna ta idola sou pezei kai na pernoun ekini to call gia to hit...Min anisixeis i Kasidiara tha paei gia Prothipourgos.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Panos_ on November 03, 2013, 12:58:25 am
Always the shit melee players complaining about ranged. I suggest you go play some counter strike and learn some game sense. Maybe you won't get shot as much.

inb4 JTOBIASM UR SHIT ARCHER SRS

you just went full retard..
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: San on November 03, 2013, 01:04:35 am
My legitimate response to this request was written in the 18 other threads from the same minority demanding the same thing.

Minority = 60% of the votes in favor of at least reducing it in some way?

I don't really care about the ranged stagger too much; in some ways it's annoying because if an enemy gets hit by it, he starts phasing through objects and swings. I only think it should be removed to line them up with polearms. The normal stagger is already great and the long ranged stagger is a rarity anyways.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Xant on November 03, 2013, 01:17:21 am
Rumblood's math isn't very stronk.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 03, 2013, 01:34:19 am
My legitimate response to this request was written in the 18 other threads from the same minority demanding the same thing. After 3 years of "nerf archery" that resulted in every single patch ever done making changes to archery, so much so that there was no more blood to be squeezed from that rock, now the whining is to reduce their effectiveness by removing the feature that makes archery one of the best team play classes in game. Nobody can save a teammate from being ganked like they can. Nobody. I'm sick of the damn whining and demands to nerf the class, so Waaa fucking Waaa is the only response this kind of shit deserves anymore.
By saving a teammate from being ganked you mean shooting him in the back and getting him stunlocked to death when he's easily winning a 3v1 due to superior footwork (and stacking ath hard), right? If it encourages you to shoot into melee then I hope it gets removed/nerfed to death.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Rumblood on November 03, 2013, 05:09:14 am
Minority = 60% of the votes in favor of at least reducing it in some way?

60% of cRPG players do NOT come to the boards making "nerf ranged" posts. It is the same very vocal minority who think (for very good historical reasons) that as long as they fill the boards with the same request, eventually the dev/balancers will capitulate to shut them up.
Seeing as over 60% of the player base is non-ranged, I am not surprised by the poll. In point of fact, that very disparity is why ranged has been the victim of so many changes to the class over the years.

By saving a teammate from being ganked you mean shooting him in the back and getting him stunlocked to death when he's easily winning a 3v1 due to superior footwork (and stacking ath hard), right? If it encourages you to shoot into melee then I hope it gets removed/nerfed to death.

Not by me. I don't think it is your "superior footwork" anyhow that lets you win a 3vs1. It is whatever overpowered build and weapon you use. Spit out out so we can make a nerf thread for it why don't you?
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Tzar on November 03, 2013, 09:38:43 am
Im not taking sides here, since logic is out the window when it comes to stagger...

If u get hit by a giant two handed sword an dont get staggered, then a tiny arrow should´nt get u staggered either..  So i can understand the melee crowd reasoning for removing it.

How ever i still think there should be a tiny stagger, since it would also look silly if people just ran in a straight line taking hits without getting slowed down..
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Molly on November 03, 2013, 09:45:09 am
Removing stun is not a good solution. It should be fixed.
Below some amount of dmg there shouldn`t be a stun, with rising dmg player get with a missile, stun should be longer, but with defined maximum duration time. 
Let`s say that maximum stun duration is one we have atm after getting shot from  strongest x-bow. Rest should be  lower than it.
Im not taking sides here, since logic is out the window when it comes to stagger...

If u get hit by a giant two handed sword an dont get staggered, then a tiny arrow should´nt get u staggered either..  So i can understand the melee crowd reasoning for removing it.

How ever i still think there should be a tiny stagger, since it would also look silly if people just ran in a straight line taking hits without getting slowed down..

Makes sense to me...
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Paul on November 03, 2013, 10:15:40 am
Better poor and proud, rather hailing from a nazee murdering past,  :wink:

Besides, we maybe poor now, but no matter what, sooner or later, we are gonna be ok, Greeks always survive, but you Germans on the other hand, you will always have that nazee stench on you no matter what you do, and besides, if Germans actually were to pay the war  reparations to Greece, things would be quite different.

We might have a nazi past and are ashamed of it but at least we don't have a nazi present.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Berserkadin on November 03, 2013, 12:31:47 pm
Panos, germans aren't the chocolate chip cookies no more, you greeks are taking that place. Who gives a fuck about what happened 70 years ago, it's the present that counts.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Tibe on November 03, 2013, 01:13:40 pm
Panos, germans aren't the chocolate chip cookies no more, you greeks are taking that place. Who gives a fuck about what happened 70 years ago, it's the present that counts.
Your sig and avatarcombo is pretty disturbing.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Panos_ on November 03, 2013, 02:14:53 pm
We might have a nazi past and are ashamed of it but at least we don't have a nazi present.

You assume that Golden Dawn is a chocolate chip cookie party, which is totally fine, I can`t blame you, the media has done a good work with the brainwashing of the mass.

I guess 20% of the Greek turned out to be nazees all of a sudden   :lol:
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Fartface on November 03, 2013, 02:17:07 pm
Panos, germans aren't the chocolate chip cookies no more, you greeks are taking that place. Who gives a fuck about what happened 70 years ago, it's the present that counts.
Not completely, I however agree that while 2 generations of Germans have passed we can no longer hold them responsible for WW2. But at the same time you shouldn't forget about it aswel, learn from history but don't judge on it.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Adamar on November 03, 2013, 02:43:32 pm
You assume that Golden Dawn is a chocolate chip cookie party, which is totally fine, I can`t blame you, the media has done a good work with the brainwashing of the mass.

I guess 20% of the Greek turned out to be nazees all of a sudden   :lol:

It's not every political group that gets pinned with harassment of minorities. And considering Greece's recent history, the all thing is pretty straightforward.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Panos_ on November 03, 2013, 03:02:13 pm
It's not every political group that gets pinned with harassment of minorities. And considering Greece's recent history, the all thing is pretty straightforward.

What about the harassment that the Greeks receive from the illegal immigrants?? Rapes, murders, drugs, robberies etc etc, the majority of inmates in Greek prisons are aliens, dude please.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Life on November 03, 2013, 03:03:40 pm
Since the amount of ranged on the servers is really high, maybe it`s time to remove the ranged stun totally, or at least nerf it.

What do you guys think??
hmm.. since there are a lot of people enjoying the ranged role lately, lets nerf it and make it less fun!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Panos_ on November 03, 2013, 03:09:21 pm
hmm.. since there are a lot of people enjoying the ranged role lately, lets nerf it and make it less fun!  :rolleyes:

Ranged stun has nothing to do with nerfing ranged class dude, get your facts straight.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: En_Dotter on November 03, 2013, 03:14:03 pm
It is funny how the 2h lol stab is still here, and 1h stab became pretty lolzy, yet 2h heroes still bitch about ranged. If i knew better id say they were right, but playing this game on daily basis i can see where this comes from:

"I am the mighty 2h hero! I cannot die! I go solo to kill everyone... Suddenly i feel the presence of 3 melee foes, but i dont mind - I HAVE THE POWER!!! I shall kill them all swiftly and kill some others after that. I swing, i block, i cut, i bash and then suddenly an archer hits me and three other guys kill me! INJUSTICE!!! I CAN KILL THE ENTIRE ARMY ON MY OWN BUT THAT ONE ARCHER CANT BE THE REASON WHY I FAILED! REMOVE ARCHERY!!!!!"
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Panos_ on November 03, 2013, 03:15:01 pm
En_Dotter, are you really that dumb??

I`m the only person at this forum, who for the last 2 years has lobbied against 2h lolstab..
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: BlueKnight on November 03, 2013, 03:15:05 pm
Ranged stun has nothing to do with nerfing ranged class dude, get your facts straight.
^
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: BlueKnight on November 03, 2013, 03:17:42 pm
It is funny how the 2h lol stab is still here, and 1h stab became pretty lolzy, yet 2h heroes still bitch about ranged. If i knew better id say they were right, but playing this game on daily basis i can see where this comes from:

"I am the mighty 2h hero! I cannot die! I go solo to kill everyone... Suddenly i feel the presence of 3 melee foes, but i dont mind - I HAVE THE POWER!!! I shall kill them all swiftly and kill some others after that. I swing, i block, i cut, i bash and then suddenly an archer hits me and three other guys kill me! INJUSTICE!!! I CAN KILL THE ENTIRE ARMY ON MY OWN BUT THAT ONE ARCHER CANT BE THE REASON WHY I FAILED! REMOVE ARCHERY!!!!!"

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EDIT: Damn I doubleposted, sorry.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: En_Dotter on November 03, 2013, 03:20:22 pm
Ranged stun has nothing to do with nerfing ranged class dude, get your facts straight.

Nah, it only has something to do with buffing the 2h and also panos go buy some tampons cus u are in PMS. And the only reason why i might be dumb is for talking to you.

I dont know or care about ur 2h lolstab lobby shit (sounds like gay lobby when ever i see u write lobby and ur role in it so w/e). I also do not get ppl who get lolstabbed  on the forum by something that wasnt even directed to them. PMS? Ur pregnat? Yo momma didnt give you enough tit milk when u were young (or old)?
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Panos_ on November 03, 2013, 03:23:48 pm
Nah, it only has something to do with buffing the 2h and also panos go buy some tampons cus u are in PMS. And the only reason why i might be dumb is for talking to you.

I dont know or care about ur 2h lolstab lobby shit (sounds like gay lobby when ever i see u write lobby and ur role in it so w/e). I also do not get ppl who get lolstabbed  on the forum by something that wasnt even directed to them. PMS? Ur pregnat? Yo momma didnt give you enough tit milk when u were young (or old)?

I`m not even a 2hander dude..  :lol:
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Post by: rufio on November 03, 2013, 03:45:25 pm
Well said friend, although I am afraid some people wont understand even if they get told in another 18 threads. Actually, as you are an admin, I can hardly imagine how hard it must be for you to not instantly ban certain people for excessive stupidity.

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Post by: XyNox on November 03, 2013, 03:51:10 pm
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Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Rumblood on November 03, 2013, 06:24:17 pm
Ranged stun has nothing to do with nerfing ranged class dude, get your facts straight.

This makes as much sense as your political point of view, I think I get why you post as you do now.
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Post by: Adamar on November 03, 2013, 06:40:38 pm
What about the harassment that the Greeks receive from the illegal immigrants?? Rapes, murders, drugs, robberies etc etc, the majority of inmates in Greek prisons are aliens, dude please.

Yep, we've heard this kind of thing before.
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Post by: Paul on November 03, 2013, 06:46:09 pm
This makes as much sense as your political point of view, I think I get why you post as you do now.

I guess a political party that had Hitler's "Mein Kampf" as one of their go-to books for their ideological foundation has nothing to do with nazis either.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Panos_ on November 03, 2013, 06:49:25 pm
ok
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Fartface on November 03, 2013, 07:00:15 pm
Just remove teammates there ability to stun you -_-
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Adamar on November 03, 2013, 07:03:58 pm
Just remove teammates there ability to stun you -_-

Yeah, I could +1. There's no need to make teammates hate archers more.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Rebelyell on November 03, 2013, 08:43:12 pm
It is funny how the 2h lol stab is still here, and 1h stab became pretty lolzy, yet 2h heroes still bitch about ranged. If i knew better id say they were right, but playing this game on daily basis i can see where this comes from:

"I am the mighty 2h hero! I cannot die! I go solo to kill everyone... Suddenly i feel the presence of 3 melee foes, but i dont mind - I HAVE THE POWER!!! I shall kill them all swiftly and kill some others after that. I swing, i block, i cut, i bash and then suddenly an archer hits me and three other guys kill me! INJUSTICE!!! I CAN KILL THE ENTIRE ARMY ON MY OWN BUT THAT ONE ARCHER CANT BE THE REASON WHY I FAILED! REMOVE ARCHERY!!!!!"

you have some serious problem
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Swaggart on November 03, 2013, 09:10:12 pm
Can we get back to removing ranged stagger?

I said stagger for a reason. When you get shot and you're rooted momentarily, that's fine and everything. It's the stagger where you take 3 or 4 uncontrollable steps into one direction that's completely annoying and serves no purpose other than to piss off the person that's on the receiving end.

My favourite is when you get shot by a teammate from behind and lunge forward helplessly into 3 enemies who proceed to fuck your shit over.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: HappyPhantom on November 03, 2013, 09:22:25 pm
Please remove horse-bump. So annoying when team mate bumps you to the ground and you get killed by enemy as you lay helpless.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Rumblood on November 03, 2013, 10:05:17 pm
Can we get back to removing ranged stagger?

I said stagger for a reason. When you get shot and you're rooted momentarily, that's fine and everything. It's the stagger where you take 3 or 4 uncontrollable steps into one direction that's completely annoying and serves no purpose other than to piss off the person that's on the receiving end.

My favourite is when you get shot by a teammate from behind and lunge forward helplessly into 3 enemies who proceed to fuck your shit over.

I can see a reasonable debate for having this changed/removed.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Little Lord Lollipop on November 03, 2013, 10:05:54 pm
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Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 03, 2013, 10:07:21 pm
Imo pressing M after a teambump should make the rider autorear his horse, that'd be a nice feature.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: San on November 03, 2013, 10:10:23 pm
Can we get back to removing ranged stagger?

I said stagger for a reason. When you get shot and you're rooted momentarily, that's fine and everything. It's the stagger where you take 3 or 4 uncontrollable steps into one direction that's completely annoying and serves no purpose other than to piss off the person that's on the receiving end.

My favourite is when you get shot by a teammate from behind and lunge forward helplessly into 3 enemies who proceed to fuck your shit over.

I have a feeling we're all not on the same page about this.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Xant on November 03, 2013, 10:12:19 pm
Imo pressing M after a teambump should make the rider autorear his horse, that'd be a nice feature.
Oh god, this would be THE best feature. If there's one thing more annoying than a friendly archer trying to "help you out", it's cavalry wanting some backstab kills and bumping you down so you get killed.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Rumblood on November 03, 2013, 11:20:23 pm
Imo pressing M after a teambump should make the rider autorear his horse, that'd be a nice feature.

Haha, I think I could get behind this one  :P
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: jtobiasm on November 03, 2013, 11:41:30 pm
you just went full retard..
Nar, you went full retard when you bought your second CD key.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Panos_ on November 03, 2013, 11:46:08 pm
Nar, you went full retard when you bought your second CD key.

4th.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: jtobiasm on November 03, 2013, 11:51:04 pm
4th.

okay beta male
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Molly on November 04, 2013, 12:02:24 am
Maybe that's the reason why Greece is in such a miserable state... Greeks just don't learn from their mistakes. Well, or because Germany didn't pay reparations... Yeah, probably the latter.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Panos_ on November 04, 2013, 12:28:15 am
okay beta male

good girl!

Maybe that's the reason why Greece is in such a miserable state... Greeks just don't learn from their mistakes. Well, or because Germany didn't pay reparations... Yeah, probably the latter.

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Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 04, 2013, 12:33:07 am
Haha, I think I could get behind this one  :P
For the record I'm serious about that feature, teambumping should be discouraged as much if not even more than shooting into melee, and quite frankly it'd be fun to be able to magically stop the asshole who bumped you in an attempt to steal your kill, then runs off leaving you to die, right before he couches someone in the back.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Panos_ on November 04, 2013, 12:36:39 am
Oh and Molly, I love the fact that you are a communist/socialist, but with every chance you get you spit venom against Greece, I guess nazeeold habits die hard  :lol:
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Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Paul on November 04, 2013, 07:41:47 am
what?

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Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Fartface on November 04, 2013, 04:30:55 pm
How can we never stay on topic on this cursed forum!
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Molly on November 04, 2013, 06:53:45 pm
Oh and Molly, I love the fact that you are a communist/socialist, but with every chance you get you spit venom against Greece, I guess nazeeold habits die hard  :lol:
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Funny that you actually think I am...

...and I am not spitting against Greece really. I am taking a piss on you and your narrow minded chocolate chip cookie-skins.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: HappyPhantom on November 04, 2013, 11:51:16 pm
I am glad we have successfully derailed this thread.
Title: Re: Ranged stun..
Post by: Adamar on November 04, 2013, 11:51:25 pm
How can we never stay on topic on this cursed forum!

I blame the devs.