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Title: Old way or the new way?
Post by: Leshma on October 22, 2013, 12:26:22 am
In few days I'll start rebuilding my main char Leshma from scratch. I need an advice what to do.

Should I recreate my old char to what it used to be, two handed agi build or should I do what my heart desires and make a polearm agi build? Other builds are not the option, it's about weapon choice.
Title: Re: Old way or the new way?
Post by: Bjord on October 22, 2013, 12:29:02 am
You should stop playing.
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Post by: Penitent on October 22, 2013, 12:37:53 am
Always follow your heat hearth head heart.
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Post by: Boerenlater on October 22, 2013, 01:23:37 am
new way ofc
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Post by: Latvian on October 22, 2013, 01:44:20 am
why dont you take something manly like 24 15 2h without lolstabb weapon such as bardiche?
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Post by: Chris_the_Animal on October 22, 2013, 01:54:00 am
why dont you take something manly like 24 15 2h without lolstabb weapon such as bardiche?
Because hes no potato  :rolleyes:

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Title: Re: Old way or the new way?
Post by: Leshma on October 22, 2013, 02:06:40 am
why dont you take something manly like 24 15 2h without lolstabb weapon such as bardiche?

How do you know I'm thinking about lawlpike 18/24 build? :twisted:

Currently playing light armor strength polearm, I think I'll rather trade speed bonus for raw damage multiplier.
Title: Re: Old way or the new way?
Post by: Froto_the_Loc on October 22, 2013, 04:29:26 am
Try something that takes skill unlike every suggestion above.
Title: Re: Old way or the new way?
Post by: Boerenlater on October 22, 2013, 12:33:21 pm
Try something that takes skill unlike every suggestion above.
yes become archer Lesh
Title: Re: Old way or the new way?
Post by: Leshma on October 22, 2013, 12:38:00 pm
Try something that takes skill unlike every suggestion above.

Unfortunately, I've tried to attain skill for almost three years and it didn't work :(
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Post by: Varadin on October 22, 2013, 12:55:49 pm
Go w/e you want bro...
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Post by: no_rules_just_play on October 22, 2013, 04:05:57 pm
How do you know I'm thinking about lawlpike 18/24 build? :twisted:

Currently playing light armor strength polearm, I think I'll rather trade speed bonus for raw damage multiplier.
im using long awlpike/pike at 15/24 (also 95 points in 1h)
now I'm lvl 33 I also have 6 shieldskill
at 35 I will have 6 riding

It's great and it's gonne be greater!
Title: Re: Old way or the new way?
Post by: Kafein on October 22, 2013, 04:32:00 pm
Agi leaning polearm best build for pros
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Post by: Gurnisson on October 22, 2013, 04:40:27 pm
Level 35 HX. Do it!
Title: Re: Old way or the new way?
Post by: Leshma on October 22, 2013, 04:49:50 pm
I'll rather impale myself on mw lawlpike :D

I respect choice of other people and the fact that some like being an archer, horseman, xbower, whatever. But that's not my choice, I prefer melee no shield. It would certainly be boring without other classes but that's why other players are for, I won't be the one to go down that path.

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im using long awlpike/pike at 15/24 (also 95 points in 1h)
now I'm lvl 33 I also have 6 shieldskill
at 35 I will have 6 riding

It's great and it's gonne be greater!

Tried that on level 35 before retirement, didn't like it. Too much gear and choice. Like to keep it simple. It's easier to get good if you're using just one weapon whole time than juggling with three different tools every single round. Multitasking isn't my strong side and I'm not natural talent at this. Need practice and using one weapon every round, every game, is the only way to go for me.
Title: Re: Old way or the new way?
Post by: Torben on October 22, 2013, 04:58:47 pm
lesh,  if you enjoy strat,  consider the high armor levels of the average army nowadays.  I know a few 2h agi heroes struggling because they cant inflict enough damage with 15str,  personally struggle with 18str on cut weapons as well...

you might want to take that into account considering your weapon choice.
Title: Re: Old way or the new way?
Post by: Templar_Steevee on October 22, 2013, 05:00:16 pm
Make agi poleatmer and use Double sided lance, great weapon :D
Title: Re: Old way or the new way?
Post by: Torben on October 22, 2013, 05:02:16 pm
Make agi poleatmer and use Double sided lance, great weapon :D

elmuri is selling his atm,  it truly is great.
Title: Re: Old way or the new way?
Post by: Leshma on October 22, 2013, 05:11:37 pm
Make agi poleatmer and use Double sided lance, great weapon :D

Had that, exchanged it for great sword. Don't like those weapons where to be useful you need to connect the hits very fast (aka spam).

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lesh,  if you enjoy strat,  consider the high armor levels of the average army nowadays.  I know a few 2h agi heroes struggling because they cant inflict enough damage with 15str,  personally struggle with 18str on cut weapons as well...

you might want to take that into account considering your weapon choice.

Thanks for advice, but I'm not playing strategus. Never did, never will.
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Post by: San on October 22, 2013, 05:19:49 pm
Try the Bigsandwich build. Polearm, get a few points in shield (I'm using 2 just fine currently), but stack agi even higher than 24 to offset the shield weight (15/27, 18/27 at highest levels).

You don't need to use the shield in fights, but getting to fights at full health is nice. You'll zoom around the battlefield getting strong pierce damage and support hits. Polearm hits stop enemies for a brief moment, allowing you to circle around them with a teammate on the other side. 8ath also works, but the shield would make you move only slightly better than a 7ath no shield build.
Title: Re: Old way or the new way?
Post by: Leshma on October 22, 2013, 05:38:16 pm
Yeah, but that means no WM. I had 180 wpf in 2H for a long time and it was awesome. Played with lot less and it's fine but can't compare to high WM builds. It's about extra damage that high wpf gives you, and there's also extra swing speed from both agi and wpf. Not to mention movement speed.

Also had 3 shield skill and I find it useless, just slows me down. Sucks against ranged. Don't like playing hoplite, mechanics is beyond boring.

But thanks for tip.
Title: Re: Old way or the new way?
Post by: Kafein on October 23, 2013, 12:23:50 pm
15/24 with bec or similar is godlike, maybe even a little bit too much godlike
Title: Re: Old way or the new way?
Post by: Leshma on October 23, 2013, 02:43:55 pm
Not a bad idea Kafein but I decided to recreate 2H on Leshma, and polearm on Bucko. 

Since Leshma comes first, that means I need to make a good build. Wanted 18/24 6 IF/PS, 8 ATH with 5 or 6 WM but I'm not so sure anymore. Maybe 21/24 with 0 WM is better build?

I need confirmation, will 160-ish wpf with 6 PS grant me higher damage output than 115-ish wpf with 7 PS?