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Title: Let us out
Post by: Nordwolf on October 16, 2013, 07:49:33 pm
"If you don't give up we will have to use brute force"
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Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: Adamar on October 16, 2013, 08:17:26 pm
Camping noobs
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: darmaster on October 16, 2013, 08:32:58 pm
Camping noobs

shut your whore mouth ranged my old friend
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: Prpavi on October 16, 2013, 08:42:22 pm
Ah yes, we have indeed reached a new milestone where over 50% of EU1 population is shooting, made a STF HA, aaaand I'm... having...

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Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: Kafein on October 16, 2013, 08:46:14 pm
shut your whore mouth ranged my old friend

ban !
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: the real god emperor on October 16, 2013, 08:48:13 pm
There should be an xbowman outside of the barn to hunt them!
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 16, 2013, 08:48:55 pm
Some of us have been playing warband for over 4 years (maybe 5?), and people are still camping the "auto-loss" barn? 

Really is the epitome of this community "keep bashing your head into the wall until the dev's remove the wall, if they don't ever remove the wall,  just keep right on bashing away, you'll break through eventually"   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: Nordwolf on October 16, 2013, 08:51:33 pm
We were having fun at the xp-barn, don't you get it? :D
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: Gmnotutoo on October 16, 2013, 08:53:09 pm
We were having fun at the xp-barn, don't you get it? :D

He can't because he is lancecav and he has to rush the enemy spawn at the start of every round to get the afks.

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Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 16, 2013, 08:57:03 pm
We were having fun at the xp-barn, don't you get it? :D

Fun?  Is that the feeling I get when our team wins a round?  Hmm good to know the name of that feeling.

And I typically don't rush enemy spawn at beginning of the round, I'm normally trying to pick off easy targets at the beginning (low risk of dehorsing me)...not my fault they want to be rambo and not use teamwork.  As soon as enemy infantry clashes with our infantry I'm trying to assist our infantry the rest of the round (doing subconscious risk assessments as to who I should be helping). 

If I'm rushing enemy spawn it's usually to pull high risk maneuvers, hopefully take out an enemy or two, and die in the first 30 seconds so I can alt+tab to CK2 or Civ V
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: Sniger on October 17, 2013, 12:27:48 pm
good picture. was good fun but it also perfectly shows the current crpg issue :p

the picture should be called "XP Barn - Breach, bang and clear"

way too much range, only ways to decrease would be to 1) set restriction or simply 2) nerf

no personally i dont think the archer-class is OP at all, there is just way too many range on the server (EU1 i dont know about eu2 i only play battle), its a gigantic shooting range.

its like this:

player launch crpg
player pick the toon he wants to play
player join eu1
player is met by a rain of arrows
player quit
player select his range alt
player join eu1

and yeah it was awesome fun! but thats only because i too was on my archer alt (im the guy with the robe in front of the barn door! :D ) however, i think melee clusterfights is waaaaay more fun and also these fights give me andrenaline kick, contradictionary to what pewpew gives me. i dont get ANYTHING from pewpew but the lols when overpowered amount of range on same team.
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: Panos_ on October 17, 2013, 12:34:46 pm
shut your whore mouth ranged my old friend

Nice comeback line there  :lol:
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: Sniger on October 17, 2013, 12:36:45 pm
Ah yes, we have indeed reached a new milestone where over 50% of EU1 population is shooting, made a STF HA, aaaand I'm... having...

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LOL

think this is the greatest post ive read for a looong time xD xD epic gif just epic
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: Ras_FrenzYYY on October 17, 2013, 12:40:26 pm
Fun?  Is that the feeling I get when our team wins a round?  Hmm good to know the name of that feeling.

And I typically don't rush enemy spawn at beginning of the round, I'm normally trying to pick off easy targets at the beginning (low risk of dehorsing me)...not my fault they want to be rambo and not use teamwork.  As soon as enemy infantry clashes with our infantry I'm trying to assist our infantry the rest of the round (doing subconscious risk assessments as to who I should be helping). 

If I'm rushing enemy spawn it's usually to pull high risk maneuvers, hopefully take out an enemy or two, and die in the first 30 seconds so I can alt+tab to CK2 or Civ V

Dude you silly...
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: Sniger on October 17, 2013, 01:10:38 pm
i wonder how things would be if there was a restriction in amount of alts you could have
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: no_rules_just_play on October 17, 2013, 01:20:21 pm
i wonder how things would be if there was a restriction in amount of alts you could have
very boring
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: Sniger on October 17, 2013, 02:53:11 pm
do you want me to list all the popular games that actually have an alt limit? :)
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: no_rules_just_play on October 17, 2013, 03:40:22 pm
do you want me to list all the popular games that actually have an alt limit? :)
No need^^
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: Razzer on October 17, 2013, 04:10:55 pm
Bring back:
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Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: Shemaforash on October 17, 2013, 04:20:30 pm
Some of us have been playing warband for over 4 years (maybe 5?), and people are still camping the "auto-loss" barn? 

Really is the epitome of this community "keep bashing your head into the wall until the dev's remove the wall, if they don't ever remove the wall,  just keep right on bashing away, you'll break through eventually"   :rolleyes:

Release date is 2010-04-02 in europe
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 17, 2013, 04:25:56 pm
Referring to the beta that many of us were privy to, which also had that village map, and was obvious it was the auto-loss barn when your team camped it.
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: Joseph Porta on October 17, 2013, 04:42:11 pm
do you want me to list all the popular games that actually have an alt limit? :)

do you want me to list all the popular games that actually have an alt limit? :)

Alt limit is for fucking homeroticals,  i will never delete my 15 lv 20+ alts!#

Of which 5 are level 30 and one level 31!
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: Kafein on October 17, 2013, 04:53:24 pm
Some of us have been playing warband for over 4 years (maybe 5?), and people are still camping the "auto-loss" barn? 

Really is the epitome of this community "keep bashing your head into the wall until the dev's remove the wall, if they don't ever remove the wall,  just keep right on bashing away, you'll break through eventually"   :rolleyes:

Ho please lord craka enlighten us with this mystical surefire way to deal with ranged that although people have been playing this game for 4 years has remained unknown to everybody except you and some other players that don't really deal with ranged any better than everybody else but claim that they are doing it the better way.
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: [ptx] on October 17, 2013, 04:58:55 pm
Uh, attack and win? That is pretty much the scenario every time one team is majority non-melee. They almost always lose, as their melee is too few to hold back the enemy melee blob.
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: Teeth on October 17, 2013, 05:20:03 pm
Really ptx, 3 melee versus 3 crossbows and 3 archers? In case you hadn't noticed, crossbows are not exactly useless in melee either and nowadays even archers can wreck you because with the current derp 1h stab those 0 slot Scottish and Broad Short Swords are actually a threat. Not that it would even come to that in this situation, in a 6 vs 3 situation the 3 melee's will be shot like stray dogs.

Bring back:
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How long a go was this exactly? These days I am quite the old my old friend with my dec 2010 start, but I have never seen these happen.
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 17, 2013, 05:27:03 pm
Ho please lord craka enlighten us with this mystical surefire way to deal with ranged that although people have been playing this game for 4 years has remained unknown to everybody except you and some other players that don't really deal with ranged any better than everybody else but claim that they are doing it the better way.

I wasn't even talking about dealing with ranged, although I will open that can of worms.  Certainly camping an enclosed area for them to shoot into (shooting fish in a barrel) or waiting for MOTF and you have to funnel out of there seems pretty fucking dumb to me. 

You know how I deal with ranged?  The same way as everyone else, I try not to get shot.  I get behind a shield or other players.  I protect an xbow'er or an archer.  I flank them.  I try not to put myself in a bad position.  Guess what?  I still get shot sometimes.  But that's okay, I pick my big boy pants off the ground, and I pull them up and try again the next round. 

I try not to get lanced by cavalry, doing a lot of different things to mitigate the chances of that happening.  But guess what, I still get lanced sometimes.  I try not to let STR build maulers get in range to crushthrough my weapon or shield.  I do lots of different things to prevent this from happening, but sometimes I get crushthroughed and I die.  I put on my big boy pants and I deal with it.

What I was actually referring to, had nothing to do with ranged.  People have been camping the auto-loss barn since Warband beta.  And it was obvious to those of us who actually pay attention to what's going on in game, that it's a terrible strategy, and 9 times out of 10, will result in the team camping it, to lose.

I agree with PTX.  On most maps, whichever team has the better infantry horde will usually win.  Melee is what wins battles (if they have enough variety of classes, and they are using teamwork, terrain and mob mentality to their advantage).
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: Kafein on October 17, 2013, 05:52:46 pm
I wasn't even talking about dealing with ranged, although I will open that can of worms.  Certainly camping an enclosed area for them to shoot into (shooting fish in a barrel) or waiting for MOTF and you have to funnel out of there seems pretty fucking dumb to me.

So you are just saying that camping the barn on a map that only exists since 2011 or something has been stupid since beta, but don't actually come up with anything better ? I am impressed by your eloquence.
 
You know how I deal with ranged?  The same way as everyone else, I try not to get shot.  I get behind a shield or other players.  I protect an xbow'er or an archer.  I flank them.  I try not to put myself in a bad position.  Guess what?  I still get shot sometimes.  But that's okay, I pick my big boy pants off the ground, and I pull them up and try again the next round. 

I try not to get lanced by cavalry, doing a lot of different things to mitigate the chances of that happening.  But guess what, I still get lanced sometimes.  I try not to let STR build maulers get in range to crushthrough my weapon or shield.  I do lots of different things to prevent this from happening, but sometimes I get crushthroughed and I die.  I put on my big boy pants and I deal with it.

So you just admit that no matter how you play you will get shot even when you played perfectly and put on your big pants just like a traffic victim would put on the big pants and stop whining about being in a wheelchair because of a joyrider. Dying in melee is not a fatality, dying to projectiles is.

What I was actually referring to, had nothing to do with ranged.  People have been camping the auto-loss barn since Warband beta.  And it was obvious to those of us who actually pay attention to what's going on in game, that it's a terrible strategy, and 9 times out of 10, will result in the team camping it, to lose.

In the actual xp barn map that is actually old (snowy village, not this one), the team that would camp the barn and wait there patiently while the other team was trying to get them to get out would win most of the time. Teams lose when they get split up because some people do not follow the majority. Barn camping makes staying organised easy for your team and difficult for the enemy team.

I agree with PTX.  On most maps, whichever team has the better infantry horde will usually win.  Melee is what wins battles (if they have enough variety of classes, and they are using teamwork, terrain and mob mentality to their advantage).

Melee win battles when they emerge out of the melee fight considerably outnumbering the enemy ranged. When you have a melee fight and the survivors are about the same size as the remaining enemy ranged, they lose no matter how many "ranged counter" units they got.
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: Perverz on October 17, 2013, 06:00:11 pm
Release date is 2010-04-02 in europe

he probably thought about m&b   :wink:
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: Shemaforash on October 17, 2013, 06:26:07 pm
he probably thought about m&b   :wink:

afaik the original mount&blade didn't have multiplayer
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 17, 2013, 06:27:38 pm
You're wrong kafein, the team that camped the barn lost almost every time.  And I thought that was the snowy village barn. 

And including the beta for warband, it's been around for at least 4 years AFAIK.
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: Vodner on October 17, 2013, 07:49:02 pm
Bear in mind that the EU side of the pond has a much higher quantity of ranged than the NA side (or at least this was the case last time I played). As a result, they also have a higher population of good ranged, which can be suicidal to charge.

The handful of times I've played EU1 (not too often, since I tend to teamkill a lot with a high ping), there were large balls of 10-15 ranged players, which were very difficult to approach.
Title: Re: Let us out
Post by: Sniger on October 18, 2013, 01:02:14 pm
Ah yes, we have indeed reached a new milestone where over 50% of EU1 population is shooting, made a STF HA, aaaand I'm... having...

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couldnt resist

from 2:17

priceless xD

(and may he RIP - one of the last awesome characters in hollywood)