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cRPG => Beginner's Help and Guides => Topic started by: Aulisia on October 09, 2013, 12:02:03 pm

Title: Thracian Peltast Build
Post by: Aulisia on October 09, 2013, 12:02:03 pm
Hey guys i'm a old member of the community and usually played a dedicated peasant archer or a polearm glaivetroll, but now i got in the mood for a themed build and so i picked the peltast. Being a dedicated archer was fun (when archers were not completely useless) and as a glaivetroll i had much fun in team mellee but also use able to duel pretty well.
Now i want a full support character. One that can throw stuff at close to medium range, do some pierce dmg in close to medium mellee range and have a shield to defend his butt.

I am about 22 lvl now but this is my plan for lvl 30:

Code: (Thracian_Peltast) [Select]
Level:           30

Strength:        18
Agility:         18

Skill to attr:    2

Power Strike:     6
Shield:           6
Athletics:        5
Power Throw:      6
Weapon Master:    6

Polearm:        119
Throwing:       118
using cRPG NewGen calc (http://alpha-lider19.ru/MB)

Also probably gonna use a fast spear like "spear" ^^ and a round shield. I also heard that shields over 7.5 weight cost 2 slots and i need verification.
I also gonna shieth shield for duels cause ppl just facehug me and kill me with just spamming, i thrust so slow when with shield and spear is a fast polearm  :?

So please advice me on how to adjust and modify this build, i will be eternally gratefull :)
Title: Re: Thracian Peltast Build
Post by: Aulisia on October 09, 2013, 12:04:51 pm
:Edit:

So the new optimal build is this?:

Code: [Select]
Level:           30

Strength:        21
Agility:         15

Skill to attr:    2

Power Strike:     7
Shield:           5
Athletics:        5
Power Throw:      7
Weapon Master:    5

Polearm:        102
Throwing:       120
using cRPG NewGen calc (http://alpha-lider19.ru/MB)
:Edit:

Also my equipment:
Main Weapon: Throwing Lance
Shield: Heavy Round Shield
3rd Slot: Throwing Spears
4rd Slot: Throwing Spears
Title: Re: Thracian Peltast Build
Post by: Erzengel on October 09, 2013, 12:12:45 pm
Almost all shields above the Knightly Heater Shield need 2 slots. Going thrower might not be worth it if you are also going for a spear and a shield. This will leave you with only one slot for throwing weapons. You could use a steel buckler, though. It is 0 slots, but you will need some shield skill to protect you from ranged attacks. A 15/21 build should be good for it. Also always max out athletics. It is the most important skill together with power strike.

Another option would be 21/15 with a shield, 2 Stacks of Jarids/Throwing Speas and a Throwing Lance (which is a very good melee and hoplite weapon).
Title: Re: Thracian Peltast Build
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on October 09, 2013, 12:21:47 pm
Play 21/15 instead and take the Throwing Lance as hoplite weapon aswell.
Title: Re: Thracian Peltast Build
Post by: Aulisia on October 09, 2013, 12:32:24 pm
Seems legit, as a peltast my spear should also be throwable ;). Why didn't i thought of that.
Thank you my fellow crpgeans.

Also throwing spears and stuff use my polearm skill in secondary mode?
Title: Re: Thracian Peltast Build
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on October 09, 2013, 12:39:26 pm
yes
throwing lance as melee weapon is polearm. So you need polearm wpf :)
Title: Re: Thracian Peltast Build
Post by: Aulisia on October 09, 2013, 12:41:43 pm
Damn :(, it would be such a nice build if they didn't :D
Title: Re: Thracian Peltast Build
Post by: Erzengel on October 09, 2013, 12:56:50 pm
Good news: it is still a nice build.  :D
Title: Re: Thracian Peltast Build
Post by: Aulisia on October 09, 2013, 01:29:05 pm
Ok thanks for your help so far.
So now i use:
Main Weapon: Throwing Lance
Shield: Heavy Round Shield

But what should i use for the 2 remaining slots? Jarids? Javellins?
I'm particurarly thinking of using throwing spears just because it gives me 4 of a kind.

What do you think :)?
Title: Re: Thracian Peltast Build
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on October 09, 2013, 01:33:17 pm
isnt the heavy round shield 2 slot?
if yes you should choose another one
if not take 2 lances and 1 stack of throwing spears
Title: Re: Thracian Peltast Build
Post by: Aulisia on October 09, 2013, 01:39:12 pm
it's 1 slot. Also 2 lances are little expensive and no use. What if i miss? I want to have as much throwing equipment as i can get, no?
Title: Re: Thracian Peltast Build
Post by: Moncho on October 09, 2013, 01:42:01 pm
HRS is 1 slot.

Remember that you can often pick your projectiles back up, it is a very useful skill for throwers. And so your missed projectiles can often be recollected.

I personally like the jarids, but spears are a good choice too. I would play around with both for a while and see which ones you prefer.

A stack of war darts is also pretty good if your aim is to mostly disrupt, as you get many more projectiles.
Title: Re: Thracian Peltast Build
Post by: Aulisia on October 09, 2013, 02:15:06 pm
Hmm then i guess once again it's about how i want my style to be. Ok thanks, at least i can transfer money from my main and practice with many weapons ;)
Title: Re: Thracian Peltast Build
Post by: Aulisia on October 09, 2013, 03:35:45 pm
I swear last question :D: How much effective wpf do i need to be effective with my weapons?
I think I heard sb say that we all need somewhere around 30 at least
Title: Re: Thracian Peltast Build
Post by: Moncho on October 09, 2013, 04:21:02 pm
The more you have, the better, your effective wpf is affected by a few things.
You can find the full details in the game mechanic megathread (http://forum.melee.org/beginner's-help-and-guides/game-mechanic-megathread!/).
Title: Re: Thracian Peltast Build
Post by: Aulisia on October 09, 2013, 06:23:51 pm
According to that my wpf in both throwing and polearms will be 22  :?. I guess that's the price to pay for being a hybrid...
Title: Re: Thracian Peltast Build
Post by: Ronin on October 09, 2013, 07:55:55 pm
Throwing lances are not good for supporting. Pick war darts or darts. Both will do. I remember borrowing +3 darts from cora. Jolly good times those were! Jolly good times!
Title: Re: Thracian Peltast Build
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on October 09, 2013, 08:09:58 pm
go for 125 wpf in throwing
6 athletics
5 shield
Title: Re: Thracian Peltast Build
Post by: Aulisia on October 09, 2013, 08:23:33 pm
Thx for your advice, i would thumbs up your comments if i knew how to do it :D