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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: //saxon on September 27, 2013, 12:59:35 am

Title: Horse gets hit stunned like characters do.
Post by: //saxon on September 27, 2013, 12:59:35 am
Quick suggestion, when you get hit by any damage source you are froze in-place with some animation that lasts about 0.5 - 1 second, horse when they get hit just carry on.

My suggestion is simple, horses get the damage animation to. Obviously someone has to make this animation but im sure its manageable.

The reason for this suggestion is not all cav but the ones when they crash and you are hitting the horse over and over they can just move freely and then get away.

There is no serious punishment for crashing with your horse or playing carelessly, im not hating on horse ranged but its beyond a joke when you rear them and they get away or they crash and they get away.


if only they got the animation characters get when we get hit.

Side note: im not talking about a stagger that lasts 3 seconds im talking about the normal hit receive animation.

(i use spaces in between so its easy to read)


EDIT: i want to mention as well, arrows, bolts and throwing weapons do not make the horse receive the animation? :D
Title: Re: Horse gets hit stunned like characters do.
Post by: Jarold on September 27, 2013, 02:57:19 am
So you want to discourage horsemen from going into melee even more now? They already have a distinct disadvantage fighting people head on and getting a chance to be reared, but now any random hit will make them not be able to get away and die. So all weapons are spears now.
Title: Re: Horse gets hit stunned like characters do.
Post by: Rumblood on September 27, 2013, 07:37:50 am
Well then, give all horses, including runaway horses a realistic charge damage and a 50% chance of knocking melee the fuck out when they bump them. Don't forget to add blunt hoof damage and another 50% chance to knock the fuck out any melee standing in front of a horse that rears. Also add a key to trigger a double hoof kick to the rear that does 150 blunt damage to anyone behind the stopped horse.

Then you can stun the horses.
Title: Re: Horse gets hit stunned like characters do.
Post by: Strudog on September 27, 2013, 11:33:08 am
It is your own fault if the horse gets away, rear the horse again is it tries to get away, the horses dont exactly bolt out of those ganking cluster fucks, its the people on the ground who are  kill hungry whores that let they guy get away.
Title: Re: Horse gets hit stunned like characters do.
Post by: XyNox on September 27, 2013, 12:04:47 pm
I have seen several threads where people seemed to be in agreement that the difficulty for playing cav is way too low ( duh ). Suggestions like collision damage to make cav harder to play got overall approval. Cant see why this gets so many downvotes now. Horses right now feel like robots with gokart wheels attached to the legs, not like living creatures made of flesh and blood.
Title: Re: Horse gets hit stunned like characters do.
Post by: Son Of Odin on September 27, 2013, 12:11:30 pm
This thread is a perfect example why you should think before you type...

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Title: Re: Horse gets hit stunned like characters do.
Post by: Teeth on September 27, 2013, 02:50:54 pm
I'm confused, you want a horse that is going 40 km/h to stop dead for an instant when it gets hit? Think horses are quite okay, especially since the recent stab changes gave even 1h a decent counter, basically taking on anyone head on is extremely risky. Using a +3 cataphract horse I have had experiences where 4 people tried to kill my stopped horse and failed due to sloppy swinging and me trying to negate speed bonus as much as I can, other occasions your 44k worth of horse gets 1 hit by a proper swing when riding fast or 2 hit when standing still.

Rarely does your horse get stopped twice and survives.
Title: Re: Horse gets hit stunned like characters do.
Post by: //saxon on September 27, 2013, 04:30:25 pm
Quote from: Teeth on September 27, 2013, 02:50:54 pm
I'm confused, you want a horse that is going 40 km/h to stop dead for an instant when it gets hit?
Rarely does your horse get stopped twice and survives.
maybe not stopped dead just slow down and has to speed up again.
Title: Re: Horse gets hit stunned like characters do.
Post by: BlueKnight on September 29, 2013, 03:40:37 pm
Quote from: XyNox on September 27, 2013, 12:04:47 pm
Horses right now feel like robots with gokart wheels attached to the legs, not like living creatures made of flesh and blood.
Next time you get bumped by 600-1000kg of 'flesh and blood', start thinking why your character is even able to stand up. For you-archers it is easy to say that cav is too easy and horses are 2 good because they sneak up on you, yet when you see charging cav, you keep staying in his charge-line and wait till the very last second to release the arrow into the rider. Rider gets shitload of damage because of speed bonus, but ranged guy doesn't care that he gets bumped because bump from light-medium horse is just pitiful, unless you are naked.

What people dislike in cav is that horses are barely hearable when they are behind you which causes a lot of sneak kills. On the other hand perma small lance angle , upkeep, lance stab downblockablity and different other features of lance cav made cav players adjust to the conditions and made cavalry a backstab tool.
Title: Re: Horse gets hit stunned like characters do.
Post by: Kafein on September 29, 2013, 10:26:26 pm
Ho well, the average lifespan of cav after being hit once by anything is already less than 5 seconds anyway.
Title: Re: Horse gets hit stunned like characters do.
Post by: MURDERTRON on September 30, 2013, 03:20:19 am
Make it so horses can break walls and other destructible environments.
Title: Re: Horse gets hit stunned like characters do.
Post by: Adantino_1 on September 30, 2013, 03:38:47 am
 Maybe if the horses slow down from hits and have a little damage animation. Also, make the horses harder to control. Of course, maybe we should wait until Mount and Blade 2 because this would be a huge change that takes a lot of work that the devs are probably already going to do.
Title: Re: Horse gets hit stunned like characters do.
Post by: Gurnisson on October 01, 2013, 03:22:45 pm
I usually use champ large warhorse and champ war horse, and I rarely live after being reared. Your horse gets stuck on the infantry and you can't move.
Title: Re: Horse gets hit stunned like characters do.
Post by: Arthur_ on October 07, 2013, 03:36:25 pm
a rondel dagger can 1 hit a +3 padded warhorse at it's full speed, and you are talking about nerfs?

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Title: Re: Horse gets hit stunned like characters do.
Post by: polkafranzi on October 07, 2013, 03:54:13 pm
I can hardly use my horse on eu1 lately cos of the amount of ranged. Seriously all I hear is the thud of arrows or bolts into my plated charger, if this was implememented i'd be averaging 1km/h the whole 7mins.

Pathetic (the idea and the amount of ranged spam).
Title: Re: Horse gets hit stunned like characters do.
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on October 07, 2013, 03:59:04 pm
I kind of get where you are coming from but it isn't really that necessary to give horses brief hit stun. Several well aimed hits bring a lot of them down soon enough. After all, plated charger is the only horse that is highly difficult to stop. Then again, its upkeep also costs a fortune. So, let someone use it and tank along over the crowd when they think they got the bucks to throw away.
Title: Re: Horse gets hit stunned like characters do.
Post by: XyNox on October 07, 2013, 04:08:45 pm
Quote from: polkafranzi on October 07, 2013, 03:54:13 pm
I can hardly use my horse on eu1 lately cos of the amount of ranged. Seriously all I hear is the thud of arrows or bolts into my plated charger "valour vending machine", if this was implememented i'd be averaging 1km/h the whole 7mins.

Pathetic (the idea and the amount of ranged spam).
Title: Re: Horse gets hit stunned like characters do.
Post by: Gurnisson on October 07, 2013, 04:17:16 pm
Plated Charger is definitely not the best way to get valour (unless you're horse ranged and shoot 3 stacks of arrows for 1 point per arrow :D)

Edit
Sorry, got that wrong, Xynox :wink:
Title: Re: Horse gets hit stunned like characters do.
Post by: XyNox on October 07, 2013, 04:54:21 pm
Quote from: Gurnisson on October 07, 2013, 04:17:16 pm
Plated Charger is definitely not the best way to get valour (unless you're horse ranged and shoot 3 stacks of arrows for 1 point per arrow :D)

You got me wrong. Shooting a plated charger turns it into a mobile valour vending machine for ranged. Complaining about being shot when you ride a plated charger is like wondering why all those flies follow you when you use dogfeces for aftershave.
Title: Re: Horse gets hit stunned like characters do.
Post by: polkafranzi on October 07, 2013, 05:44:50 pm
Quote from: XyNox on October 07, 2013, 04:54:21 pm
You got me wrong. Shooting a plated charger turns it into a mobile valour vending machine for ranged. Complaining about being shot when you ride a plated charger is like wondering why all those flies follow you when you use dogfeces for aftershave.

Yes the problem is not the getting shot, tbh some arrows do as little as 3-5% per hit, but it's the amount, combined with the OP's suggestion of stun which is gay.