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Title: NA strat survey
Post by: Jack1 on September 24, 2013, 01:14:35 am
Generally uncommon weapons that I am wondering if people would use if put into an army.


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Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Relit on September 24, 2013, 01:19:54 am
Writing you out of my will, Jack. And you had a good chance of collecting too.

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Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Jack1 on September 24, 2013, 01:21:00 am
Still editing the poll fatty, you can only put one in at a time after the first 5
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Keshian on September 24, 2013, 02:12:04 am
Not really sure why fcc got split up and occitan chevaliers kept together - we are roughly same size.  but nah, jack would never have survey bias - hes clearly a neutral party.

Basically if you hold true for one then do so for the other - i dont care if you want to split us up but then do it for the other equal sized factiona nd vice versa, if you want to keep them together than keep us together - also HG no longer exists in strategus/strat fights (all except tojo), they have gone the way of the dodo - love em and wish them the best in the other games they still play.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Gmnotutoo on September 24, 2013, 02:22:43 am
BIRD CLAN.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Jack1 on September 24, 2013, 02:29:00 am
Not really sure why fcc got split up and occitan chevaliers kept together - we are roughly same size.  but nah, jack would never have survey bias - hes clearly a neutral party.

Basically if you hold true for one then do so for the other - i dont care if you want to split us up but then do it for the other equal sized factiona nd vice versa, if you want to keep them together than keep us together - also HG no longer exists in strategus/strat fights (all except tojo), they have gone the way of the dodo - love em and wish them the best in the other games they still play.

I did it because it is not uncommon to see 5-10 people on the FCc banner to be in a strat battle while I rarely see more than 3 Occitan/chev.

Please don't shit on every thread.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Artyem on September 24, 2013, 03:15:31 am
I feel like every faction has players that you've got to put on your roster.  However, every faction also has those players you just should not / would not / will not put on your roster.

Regardless, if I had to pick who I'd put in as a majority on my roster, it'd be the Ravens.  Skill wise, they've got a mix of good and bad players but what they do have is discipline.  I can count on them to get a job done on their own, without major cooperation on my end.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on September 24, 2013, 04:04:28 am
If you don't vote MB, you don't know what's up.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Keshian on September 24, 2013, 04:15:58 am
If you don't vote MB, you don't know what's up.

be careful you might get sick from sucking all that cock.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on September 24, 2013, 04:30:21 am
This survey is automatically wrong for not including THE REALM OF THE GOBBLIN KING... and any person who has voted for anything else is wrong.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Havoco on September 24, 2013, 04:41:41 am
Wait, u guys do strat battles for more than just your own clan? Scrubs...
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: BaleOhay on September 24, 2013, 05:01:29 am
I do not think I understand the reasoning why FCC as a strat faction was split. I will just add them up!
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on September 24, 2013, 05:50:32 am
be careful you might get sick from sucking all that cock.

It's just tough for me to think of an MB player that plays regularly in strategus battles that is not at least above average in skill. Sure, they have some players that aren't so great in MB, but they do not regularly participate in strategus battles. I can think of examples from each other clan that regularly participate and do below average, but not so for MB.

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Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: MURDERTRON on September 24, 2013, 06:00:21 am
I can't decide if its SKOT or HOC.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Malaclypse on September 24, 2013, 06:36:09 am
I do not think I understand the reasoning why FCC as a strat faction was split.

Because FCC as a Strat faction includes folk that aren't in the ladder faction FCC, folk who have their own ladder factions. Least that's my guess.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: ArysOakheart on September 24, 2013, 06:45:52 am
We have a Wizard.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Gmnotutoo on September 24, 2013, 07:09:00 am
Because FCC as a Strat faction includes folk that aren't in the ladder faction FCC, folk who have their own ladder factions. Least that's my guess.

Unicorn Ninja Clan is a separate strat faction.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Taser on September 24, 2013, 08:04:48 am
I'll be honest, I thought raven would have more votes. They can fill a roster with 5+ people that follow orders like that *snaps fingers*. They don't do extremely well overall in strat battles but that's just because they're not lone heroes. They stick with the group and their objectives. Gotta admire that. Plus they got relit. He's got that long shaft ready to thrust on command.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on September 24, 2013, 08:06:48 am
I voted Semen Storm.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Phantasmal on September 24, 2013, 09:09:26 am
I would say it is a toss up between FCC and Frisia for the most part. They both can bring quite a number of mercs when they want to and have a few standout heroes.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: BaleOhay on September 24, 2013, 02:15:50 pm
That still does not make logical sense.. your poll who has the best merc pool which is based on strat faction, not crpg ladder.

Our problem stems more from having lots of lower skilled.players as well that balances out our great ones
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: dynamike on September 24, 2013, 03:46:23 pm
Sorry, but: worst, most random and confusing poll ever, dude.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Duster on September 24, 2013, 04:18:10 pm
If we're talking quality over quantity; SEMENstorm.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 24, 2013, 04:33:17 pm
I voted for SemenStorm for both quality and quantity. 

I was tempted to vote for MB for quantity, or FCC (or people who wear FCC banner) are usually pretty high in numbers in strat battles.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Matey on September 24, 2013, 05:41:13 pm
My understanding of the poll was not "which clan provides the best mercs" but "which faction is able to consistently put together the strongest rosters of their own players as well other players"
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Jack1 on September 24, 2013, 06:00:19 pm
It's a question of who PROVIDES the best mercs(quantity, quality, reliability and willing to get up at odd hours/fake sick at work as we all have). Obtaining a good roster is another story. But I'm going to change the poll every now and then to know what people think on different aspects(and I'll put FCC together).
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Keshian on September 24, 2013, 11:27:36 pm
It's a question of who PROVIDES the best mercs(quantity, quality, reliability and willing to get up at odd hours/fake sick at work as we all have). Obtaining a good roster is another story. But I'm going to change the poll every now and then to know what people think on different aspects(and I'll put FCC together).

Thanks, so we should ahve 15 votes then - awesome!

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Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Necrorave on September 24, 2013, 11:47:00 pm
Whoever voted for Dracul obviously never played Crpg before.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Artyem on September 25, 2013, 12:27:35 am
Whoever voted for Dracul obviously never played Crpg before.

Dracul, so good we don't even need to play the game to get votes for best mercenaries.

P.S.

we're all bad
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: HappyPhantom on September 25, 2013, 12:39:37 am
Whoever voted for Dracul obviously never played Crpg before.

LOYAL DESPITE ... well ... EVERYTHING!!

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Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Mae. on September 25, 2013, 01:38:11 am
if you saw what i voted you'd know how seriously im taking this. those options make no sense, why are some choices a few clans included in an alliance and others are just a specific clan.. that are in reality some of the same alliances as the other possible choices..?
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: dynamike on September 25, 2013, 03:53:22 pm
if you saw what i voted you'd know how seriously im taking this

She voted Semenstorm 'cause pornstar.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on September 25, 2013, 04:47:24 pm
Cavalieres is one of the biggest, fastest growing cRPG clans. There are so many of us. We're all really good, too.

Why are we not on the poll? This is foolishness.

Seriously.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 25, 2013, 04:51:26 pm
if you saw what i voted you'd know how seriously im taking this. those options make no sense, why are some choices a few clans included in an alliance and others are just a specific clan.. that are in reality some of the same alliances as the other possible choices..?

Thanks for the vote, it means a lot to the one of us who still play in strat battles 
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Jack1 on September 26, 2013, 12:53:43 am
New question and added the last poll in the OP.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Life on September 26, 2013, 12:55:04 am
FCC for sure.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Teeth on September 26, 2013, 01:01:30 am
Which faction has Rhalzo again? He always makes me feel appreciated.

Voting Frisia as they seem really chill when leading.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on September 26, 2013, 01:06:57 am
Les Occitan Chevalier because those battles are the only occasion in which Arowaine is obligated to hoop and holler about killing FCC scum the entire battle, and it makes me very happy to hear that.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Artyem on September 26, 2013, 01:08:12 am
FIDLGB (CHAOS whenever Rhalzo takes over for Canary, which seems to be all the time) or Frisia, pretty much a straight up tie right there.


also, fuck leading, it's comparable to herding cats through the great plains.  I've got respect for people like Sandy, Kesh, Rhalzo and Arowaine who are actually pretty good at it.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Jack1 on September 26, 2013, 01:12:06 am
FIDLGB (CHAOS whenever Rhalzo takes over for Canary, which seems to be all the time) or Frisia, pretty much a straight up tie right there.


also, fuck leading, it's comparable to herding cats through the great plains.  I've got respect for people like Sandy, Kesh, Rhalzo and Arowaine who are actually pretty good at it.


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Gmnotutoo on September 26, 2013, 01:18:22 am
You left me out again Jack.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Jack1 on September 26, 2013, 01:33:27 am
You left me out again Jack.

I don't recall you having any significant battles vs. enemies in a non pre-decided battle/theimed battle/etc.

Those are usually much more fun but have little to do with the actual strategus wars. Thus being less stressful or difficult to lead... If you get what I'm saying.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Darkkarma on September 26, 2013, 01:36:52 am
Easily the FCC. Take out the forum arguments and I don't think people would really have any reason to not want to merc for their battles.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Gmnotutoo on September 26, 2013, 02:10:20 am
I don't recall you having any significant battles vs. enemies in a non pre-decided battle/theimed battle/etc.

Those are usually much more fun but have little to do with the actual strategus wars. Thus being less stressful or difficult to lead... If you get what I'm saying.

This is my first theme battle where I actually get to fight someone else using a fair theme and it isn't pre-decided, to also slander the battles I initiated with Hospitaller, Josho Shogunate, Kutt, and Chaos is disrespectful to them and myself. Thanks buddy, you really undermined all the hard independent work I did back when Strat started until earlier this May.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Canuck on September 26, 2013, 02:17:47 am
You left out BIRD CLAN Jack, what the fuck
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Jack1 on September 26, 2013, 02:18:56 am
This is my first theme battle where I actually get to fight someone else using a fair theme and it isn't pre-decided, to also slander the battles I initiated with Hospitaller, Josho Shogunate, Kutt, and Chaos is disrespectful to them and myself. Thanks buddy, you really undermined all the hard independent work I did back when Strat started until earlier this May.

I never participated in strat for the longest time (including that time period)and the only way I did participate is if Wesley/holiday asked me to merc. I honestly have no idea of what people were doing at that time frame other then the occasional "you sucked during the (faction) vs (faction) war.".

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Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Matey on September 26, 2013, 02:51:35 am
I voted FCC for the new poll... but i haven't fought for some of those factions and I usually cheat by hiding in a separate TS channel while pew pewing people like a true dickless xbow.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Taser on September 26, 2013, 03:15:39 am
Voted FIDLGB because they do such a great job.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on September 26, 2013, 04:41:04 pm
I'm gay.

Otherwise, FCC 'cause they're the only people I play with if I ever play at all. Kesh is a good leader and is motivated.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: HarryCrumb on September 26, 2013, 06:09:48 pm
be careful you might get sick from sucking all that cock.

LOL, SANDY DOES ACTUALLY SUCK DICK FOR A LIVING.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Rhuarc91 on September 26, 2013, 06:25:29 pm
Voted FIDLGB because they do such a great job.
yes, we always do a great job.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Krosis on September 26, 2013, 06:38:56 pm
1.Frisia -  Freedom.. relaxed.. and rolled in attacks.
2.MB - Great mercs, wall of green, not that much freedom apparently.
3.SS -They never listened when they joined other factions strat battles, but when it came to theirs YOU BETTER STAY AT SHIELD WALL! Still fun rolling with em.
4.LL - When they started pushing AoW or whatever the clan used to be called they were fun sieges..
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: StonedSteel on September 26, 2013, 09:30:17 pm
Who has the most enjoyable battles?

Hmmmm, Thats a tough one...........for some of you maybe

But for me who is fairly new, and doesn't have a vast experience with strat, this question is very easy. There is only one clan I will never fight against and will always fight for

I vote, MB

always liked MB \ their members, and while i cant comment on their past, of all the battles I have been in, every MB battle has been a blast, good atmosphere, well organized, you feel like a part of a professional hit squad with the walls of green you get

Idk, maybe i just joined some really lucky battles, but it just feels great to do so well....and the ticks!?!? I love MB battles, lol, i say that every time im in one i think
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on September 26, 2013, 09:47:39 pm
LOL, SANDY DOES ACTUALLY SUCK DICK FOR A LIVING.

I make a significant effort to refrain from mixing pleasure and business, you know. I'm just thankful to have a hobby that provides supplemental income.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Jack1 on November 16, 2013, 06:42:52 pm
Update.

I picked Scottish sword, it has an awesome stab and speed

Italian falcon was a close 2nd because of the immense amount of cut.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Scervo on November 16, 2013, 09:57:54 pm
I picked scottish sword as well, having a strong stab is really useful in strat when everyones in plate.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Jack1 on November 18, 2013, 06:17:58 pm
New poll.

I picked a heavy, Hard to break shield. I hate using 1h without shields and can't stand it when they break.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Mae. on November 18, 2013, 09:39:10 pm
best shield is obviously the estoc and/or longsword, wait whats the question?
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 18, 2013, 10:30:04 pm
Heavy (resistance/armor), fast shields.  Non-round shields able to be used for cavalry (round shields suck when in first person). 

Knightly heater or knightly kite are the only two good shields in crpg.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Spanish on November 19, 2013, 03:24:13 am
Round shields best shields cuz they catch arrows better than your face does cuz somehow ppl shoot me in the face with anyother shield
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Jack1 on November 22, 2013, 04:55:31 pm
New poll.

I picked two handers.

Two handers tend to be the targets of cavalry along with one handers
Two handers don't get shields so they get shot quite often.
Problems vs teams with long polearms due to generally short length(other than great swords) and inability to block a pike's stab and another direction like shielders
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Aseldo on November 22, 2013, 07:00:44 pm
2H, lol, countered by just about everything in big battles.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Taser on November 22, 2013, 08:02:44 pm
Yeah if you want to play strat.. polearms/ranged/shielder is basically the way to go. 2h can still do just fine but fuck .. polearms just wrecks in a normal battle.

brb longspears everywhere
brb poked from 4 different directions
brb shot 3 times
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 22, 2013, 08:04:59 pm
Depends, can be brutal for cavalry if it's a hilly map.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Admiral Ballsack on November 22, 2013, 09:44:30 pm
Lol honestly you see 2h's with top kills and score in strat battles.. Archers get fucked by cav and every other class in a FIELD battle...
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Jack1 on November 22, 2013, 09:50:54 pm
Lol honestly you see 2h's with top kills and score in strat battles.. Archers get fucked by cav and every other class in a FIELD battle...

I have quite literally played every class in field battles exept for archer now. two hander is by far the hardest from my perspective.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Matey on November 22, 2013, 10:45:36 pm
where is 1h? most factions only bring really short shitty 1handers which makes running around in an open field pretty much the worst.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Keshian on November 22, 2013, 10:48:18 pm
Field battles - I thought it would be obvious xbows - slow reload in the middle of an open field or on some shitty ladder cav can ride right up to kill you.  2her and polearms pretty easy open field, if you are worried about cav use a stabby weapon and it has really long reach for anti-cav.  Hell the easiest class in the game is 2her cav, 1-shot kills almost everybody with very little skill needed.  For melee, 1her shielders have it harder because everybody outranges them as people skirmish with long 2hers and polearms and they can easily get cav bumped to death with their short reach weapons.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Jack1 on November 23, 2013, 12:53:38 am
where is 1h? most factions only bring really short shitty 1handers which makes running around in an open field pretty much the worst.

Whoops, added them.

Restarting poll since the data is skewed
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Matey on November 23, 2013, 01:07:01 am
i dont know which one hander option to pick!

I picked one at random...
here is a picture so when he inevitably changes it people wont think im crazy.

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Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Jack1 on November 23, 2013, 01:27:31 am
i dont know which one hander option to pick!

I picked one at random...
here is a picture so when he inevitably changes it people wont think im crazy.

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Goddammit.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Taser on November 23, 2013, 05:06:04 am
inb4 everyone votes for their own class.

Huehue..

I will seriously lol if anyone picks polearms though.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Canary on November 24, 2013, 12:50:43 am
inb4 everyone votes for their own class.

Huehue..

I will seriously lol if anyone picks polearms though.

Quite so. If they're voting seriously they're probably restricting themselves to using weapons like the bec de corbin or long axes or something.


Throwing isn't on the poll? There are still battles happening where throwing weapons aren't even included in the army, or when they are they're not the best selection, aren't heirloomed as much as the rest of the gear or are only included in small quantities as an afterthought. I suppose that's a problem not specific to field battles, though...
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Canuck on November 24, 2013, 12:59:58 am
For me it's definitely 1h. Unless you've got a really good group thing going, shielding is pretty damn difficult in field battles compared to other melee types.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on November 24, 2013, 06:14:21 pm
Cav, obviously
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Jack1 on November 25, 2013, 06:34:27 pm
New poll
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Matey on November 25, 2013, 10:35:10 pm
those weapons are all already implemented in cRPG and strat. I assume you mean "Which of these would you like to see in any future Frisian Army" and I will vote based on that assumption!
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Jack1 on November 26, 2013, 12:00:15 am
those weapons are all already implemented in cRPG and strat. I assume you mean "Which of these would you like to see in any future Frisian Army" and I will vote based on that assumption!
yeah, I was just wondering if there was anything that was not common that people would use if it was made common. may not put them in at all, but, i'm just cereous on this one.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Duster on November 26, 2013, 02:16:27 am
Voted Swiss Halberd, but my heart wants more English Bills. 2D polearms are the new kings of the battlefield.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Taser on November 26, 2013, 03:36:11 am
I had 15 options and the ability to click them all.

Therefore I voted for everything.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Scervo on November 26, 2013, 03:50:58 am
replace persian war axe with persian battle axe. and i agree with whoever said english bills even though its not an option
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Jack1 on November 26, 2013, 04:30:31 am
the idea is weapons that are not commonly put with armies.

FCC has English bills and Persian battle axes already.
Title: Re: NA strat survey
Post by: Scervo on November 26, 2013, 04:41:26 am
Ah. Well i vote iron staff then :P