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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: BASNAK on August 22, 2013, 12:01:01 pm

Title: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: BASNAK on August 22, 2013, 12:01:01 pm
Ok I just want to state my opinion quickly. And please dont move this to the Suggestions forum.

I play cRPG because it has a melee system like no other game and love getting into group fights. But for me the fun is ruined by being hit by projectiles stunning you or by getting bumped by horses and I'm pretty tired of qqing about it.

Now Im not saying remove ranged or cavalry, since they were part of medieval combat and they should be featured in the battle servers for those who want to fight full scale battles. But shouldn't there be an option for those just wanting to fight small melee battles? I remember when I first got cRPG there was a melee server and I loved going in there watching people who knew how to block, fight. And it was awesome.

I recall there being an issue with activity on the server second time it was hosted. Not because no one wanted to play there, but because of the "you need to have atleast 8 players to gain multiplier" which kept people away from joining it.

Is there anyway we could get back the Melee server as an alternative to the other gamemodes, since we have like atleast 9 EU servers? And do something about the "atleast 8 players for multiplier" because it really kills the small servers. Maybe lower it to 6 or something.
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: Spurdospera on August 22, 2013, 12:09:23 pm
It is good indicator that melee only is BORING AS FUCK if even 2h heroes prefer ranged infested battle over it. That´s why melee only server is always empty whenever it´s up.
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: Clockworkkiller on August 22, 2013, 12:15:51 pm
Nerf cav
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: Berserkadin on August 22, 2013, 12:39:47 pm
Go to siege. Endless group fights. If you like to QQ, you play battle, if you like to have fun, you play siege.
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: jtobiasm on August 22, 2013, 02:22:59 pm
I play c-rpg because as an archer, it's like playing cod4 or cs but the only difference is, is that people on cod4/cs know how to not get shot and have awareness. Maybe you should go play them you'll learn how to not get shot.
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: Vibe on August 22, 2013, 02:34:55 pm
It is good indicator that melee only is BORING AS FUCK if even 2h heroes prefer ranged infested battle over it. That´s why melee only server is always empty whenever it´s up.

That's far from the truth however. People prefer EU1 because it has more players and is bigger (with bigger maps), which also prolongs rounds meaning you'll not lose multiplier so often, in turn gaining more experience/gold. Melee only is/was a smallish server and since only a portion of the crpg base is exclusively melee, it had a smaller player pool to fill the slots from. Also EU1 has been around since forever while melee only wasn't as known, EU1 has always players on by default while melee-only needed to start from 0 players after every night, which automatically discourages players from joining an empty server over other servers.

There are plenty of reasons why melee-only had low popularity, but I'm pretty certain it wasn't because it was "boring as fuck". I had great times there and I'm sure the other regular players liked it there as well. Also the skill level of players was generally higher there.
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on August 22, 2013, 02:40:45 pm
I play c-rpg because as an archer, it's like playing cod4 or cs but the only difference is, is that people on cod4/cs know how to not get shot and have awareness. Maybe you should go play them you'll learn how to not get shot.
The difference here is enemies can't shoot back
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: Angantyr on August 22, 2013, 02:47:01 pm
EU1 has always players on by default
Actually, I've seen it empty a few early mornings during this Summer, which I don't think I've seen in previous years. Don't sleep nerds  :mad:
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: jtobiasm on August 22, 2013, 03:14:03 pm
The difference here is enemies can't shoot back

umirin?
Play as ranged or die crying.
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: Banok on August 22, 2013, 03:24:46 pm
the thing i enjoyed most on mele server was the pace, was never any need to alt tab. and siege is just boring too much respawning and walking, i'd rather alt tab than that.
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: Rantrex on August 22, 2013, 03:33:00 pm
Ahhh, I had a chance to play on melee-only server few times. With 20 people there it was quite interesting (this server somehow made people stick together :).

The no-multi-till-8 systems was made (I belive) to prevent abusing. I think I would stick with that. Lack of people on such servers is rather fault of the way  balance works. I was rarely able to see well balanced teams. Also, without banner balance you can be often thrown into opposite teams (some ppl like to play together). On melee server team fo crushing everything cans have huge adventage (while on eu_1 archers and horsemen can counter those armours). Much depends on maps too.

That may work only with a new gamemode (guess everyone loves when new gm comes out).
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: brockssn on August 22, 2013, 03:42:04 pm
I want this!!!!! Nothing more agrivating than getting gayed by cav or range
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: wayyyyyne on August 22, 2013, 03:53:10 pm
only peasants who cant block for their life would disagree with this proposition
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: Razzer on August 22, 2013, 03:57:46 pm
Ahhh, I had a chance to play on melee-only server few times. With 20 people there it was quite interesting (this server somehow made people stick together :).

The no-multi-till-8 systems was made (I belive) to prevent abusing. I think I would stick with that. Lack of people on such servers is rather fault of the way  balance works. I was rarely able to see well balanced teams. Also, without banner balance you can be often thrown into opposite teams (some ppl like to play together). On melee server team fo crushing everything cans have huge adventage (while on eu_1 archers and horsemen can counter those armours). Much depends on maps too.

That may work only with a new gamemode (guess everyone loves when new gm comes out).
This.
Tor,Cooties, Muffin, Kpu, rantrex, Ragni, myself, Bjord, couple of 22nds, Risens and tons of other players were permanently playing on the melee only server, hosted by Conquerworm.
If people would be aware of the fact, that there is a melee only server existing. It would be easily crowded.
Give us heroes a home plz, otherwise we will die out soon.
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 22, 2013, 04:06:22 pm
If your fun is ruined by archers and cavalry, you're playing the wrong game.

Check out Chivalry, they don't have cavalry.

"Wahhhh 2 out of the 3 classes this game has are ruining my fun, wahhhh"
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: BASNAK on August 22, 2013, 04:10:07 pm
If your fun is ruined by archers and cavalry, you're playing the wrong game.

Check out Chivalry, they don't have cavalry.

"Wahhhh 2 out of the 3 classes this game has are ruining my fun, wahhhh"

I play cRPG because it has a melee system like no other game

I don't see what the big deal for people is with having a Melee server. It's just an alternative. You're not forced to play in it. If it is as bad as some claim then it would die and be removed.
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 22, 2013, 04:22:34 pm
It did die, and it was removed.  The solution to your problem is internal, not external.  Look within yourself young padawan. 
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: Rumblood on August 22, 2013, 04:32:05 pm
If it is as bad as some claim then it would die and be removed.

Like Huseby said, already happened. It came, it failed, it went.
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: bavvoz on August 22, 2013, 04:34:04 pm
Go hoplite! U got a shield for the nasty arrows and a spear to poke those evil horses :)
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: BASNAK on August 22, 2013, 04:39:47 pm
Like Huseby said, already happened. It came, it failed, it went.

Zaalback tried hosting his own Melee server but was never accepted to the official servers recently. Nothing wrong with making one of the empty servers to Melee only? Wouldn't hurt anyone.
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 22, 2013, 04:50:04 pm
It would hurt yourself and your ability to overcome obstacles and adapt to changing conditions.
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: Tor! on August 22, 2013, 05:10:18 pm
We had a melee only server running a while back, I'll have to check with our secret provider if we can get it back up for a bit  :)
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: Normanguy on August 22, 2013, 05:56:53 pm
I loved playing melee server had much more fun than eu1 and others

Thumbs up bring it backk!:)

Good post.
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: Tibe on August 22, 2013, 06:01:54 pm
I dont share his opinion and I think the games charm is in all the classes screwing eachother over. Melee only is superboring and lame. And siege is a good provider of more closeup fighting, when Battle isnt. But yea I agree that why not host a meleeonly server to those who only want to play melee. Not gonna affect me anyway. Buuuuuuut ofcourse the sad truth really is that it died. The irony was never more painful when the forums where filled with "QQ archers and cav ruin this mod" threads while the meleeonly server was like a desert almost 24/7.

So I think the real problem isnt the haters, but just finding the playerbase for it.
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: brockssn on August 22, 2013, 06:56:22 pm
If your fun is ruined by archers and cavalry, you're playing the wrong game.

Check out Chivalry, they don't have cavalry.

"Wahhhh 2 out of the 3 classes this game has are ruining my fun, wahhhh"

The first youtube video that comes up shows the guy hovering his mouse of "Archer" and he selects his melee guy, an xbow-man runs infront of him... LOL
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on August 22, 2013, 09:44:59 pm
What about a ranged only server? Or a cavalry only server?

I still think there should be a CRPG version of the scoutzknivez maps in counterstrike. Low gravity, hunting crossbow/dagger/tunic only.
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: DrTaco on August 23, 2013, 12:33:46 am
What about a ranged only server? Or a cavalry only server?

I still think there should be a CRPG version of the scoutzknivez maps in counterstrike. Low gravity, hunting crossbow/dagger/tunic only.

That's a great idea! It would cut down on the horsebump arrowfun that has made me wail with despair and go back to duel servers on Native. I also have a little joke for you all.

A ranged player and a cav player walk into a bar. There is no counter. A melee player walks into a bar. The bar is empty because it's a melee only bar and everyone else is playing ranged or cav.
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: Banok on August 24, 2013, 02:06:38 pm
changed my mind all I want is a pike free server.
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: Teeth on August 24, 2013, 02:30:26 pm
My problem with melee only is that the absence of both cavalry and ranged allows people to all roll with the same feggit builds which have no real disadvantages in a melee only server, high AGI 2h. Other arbitrary rules like no pikes/longspears and no mauls basically just creates an environment where Swedish/German 14 year old 2h scrubs circlewank at each others lolfeints or call each other noobs all the time.

Which isn't a bad thing neccessarily, create a scrub reservation just like EU 4 is our retard reservation. That way we keep EU 1 nice and tidy.
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: Fartface on August 24, 2013, 02:49:22 pm
changed my mind all I want is a pike free server.
haha I just piked you to fuck on eu1 , did I make you QQ?
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: Riddaren on August 25, 2013, 12:35:00 am
My problem with melee only is that the absence of both cavalry and ranged allows people to all roll with the same feggit builds which have no real disadvantages in a melee only server, high AGI 2h. Other arbitrary rules like no pikes/longspears and no mauls basically just creates an environment where Swedish/German 14 year old 2h scrubs circlewank at each others lolfeints or call each other noobs all the time.

This was the problem with the melee server. The rules against pikes and mauls.
Either way, I was a frequent player on that server when I wasn't playing lancer.
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: Nightmare798 on August 25, 2013, 12:39:48 am
would you imagine how many 2h/pole spammers would be stuck there? nonononono, ranged exist for a reason, and that is to keep those str junkies in check...
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: Normanguy on August 25, 2013, 11:34:48 pm
Melee server was good fun with some adjustments to what gear and weapons are allowed to be used eill open it up for a wider variety of players and styles.

+1 for bringing it back, was a good community in their, amungst myself and many others enjoyed fighting against each other in their also.

I liked the arena maps too :D was a good server get it back up !!:))
Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: Ellie on August 25, 2013, 11:42:14 pm
would you imagine how many 2h/pole spammers would be stuck there? nonononono, ranged exist for a reason, and that is to keep those str junkies in check...

On my str crutch I barely even feel arrows. Certain crossbows still hurt a lot though.

Would be nice to play melee only even just once in a while to run around without some xbower shotgunning me point blank in the face.


Title: Re: Bring back the Melee server
Post by: Zaalback on August 26, 2013, 11:37:01 am
It costs me nothing but time to try again . I can host a melee server like I usually did, but don't expect it to be official , as Meow is dead since quite a long time now :/ .