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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Game Balance Discussion => Topic started by: Supreme_Leader on August 22, 2013, 04:55:20 am

Title: Nerf throwing
Post by: Supreme_Leader on August 22, 2013, 04:55:20 am
Getting one-shotted by throwing spears while wearing 40+ defense armor is retarded
Title: Re: Nerf throwing
Post by: Jarold on August 22, 2013, 04:59:50 am
lol, cool story bro. Why can't a throwing lance one shot anyone but peasants but a throwing spear can?
Title: Re: Nerf throwing
Post by: Vermilion on August 22, 2013, 05:17:16 am
NO
Title: Re: Nerf throwing
Post by: Tzar on August 22, 2013, 08:24:48 am
Before this thread continues, would you happen to remember, if the guy who shot you, was named ARTIEstrongestmanINTHEWORLD  :?:  :lol:

If not i call this bs  :wink:
Title: Re: Nerf throwing
Post by: Clockworkkiller on August 22, 2013, 12:38:23 pm
Poopy idea
Title: Re: Nerf throwing
Post by: Nightmare798 on August 22, 2013, 01:40:00 pm
get a shield
Title: Re: Nerf throwing
Post by: Gurnisson on August 22, 2013, 02:24:59 pm
Quote from: Tzar on August 22, 2013, 08:24:48 am
Before this thread continues, would you happen to remember, if the guy who shot you, was named ARTIEstrongestmanINTHEWORLD  :?:  :lol:

If not i call this bs  :wink:

Mendro can one-shot me with his jarids. 50 body armour and 24 strength. 0 IF though. I seem to get one-shot more by throwing weapons like jarids and HTA than I do by arbalest. Can't remember the last time I was one-shot by an arbalest, actually. :?

The low ammo they have balances the high damage and high rate of fire though, but I never approach Mendro without a shield anymore. :P
Title: Re: Nerf throwing
Post by: Boerenlater on August 22, 2013, 03:30:35 pm
Throwing is balanced. No nerf needed.
Title: Re: Nerf throwing
Post by: Bulzur on August 22, 2013, 06:46:38 pm
Throwing gets a nice buff from speed.

If you're stupidly charging the thrower in a straight line, then you deserve that "heavy" damage.


Quote from: Supreme_Leader on August 22, 2013, 04:55:20 am
Getting one-shotted by throwing spears while wearing 40+ defense armor is retarded

What is retarded here is the lack of information...
While wearing Armor helps surviving, the biggest factor is actually your health.
This armor :
Archon's Armor
weight: 11.1
body armor: 40
leg armor: 6
difficulty: 10

Can be worn with a 12 STR build. And no IF. Now if you get OS with such a build and armor, then it's... prefectly normal. You'd have been onehit by a lot of decent melee weapons too.


If i walk sideways, Mendro takes away 70% of my thrower health (21/21, no IF, 50 armor). I never jumped in front of him, and ran towars him, so i don't know about getting oneshot by a Mw Jarid.

Throwing is balanced though. Lack of ammo, dedicated wpf and skillpoints, low range, balances it out.
And luckily for throwers, i don't see them in all the LongRange stackers staying on a hill during the all map, pewpewing from far away, waiting for people to climb their hill. So no hate for throwers, they take risk to go as close as possible in melee.
Title: Re: Nerf throwing
Post by: NejStark on August 22, 2013, 06:54:48 pm
Its hard as fuck to hit stuff. Good shot that man who one-shotted you I say.
Title: Re: Nerf throwing
Post by: Swaggart on August 22, 2013, 10:50:25 pm
The only part about throwing that needs to be nerfed is the melee mode of throwing lances.
Title: Re: Nerf throwing
Post by: Ellie on August 24, 2013, 06:37:18 am
Throwing's application already is limited compared to other ranged. They don't get nearly as much ammo, and that has to be compensated somehow. So they need that damage to even be remotely useful, unless they just want to stand back and tickle-stagger people who are engaged in melee.

Like what I've been trying to do with stones lately.
Title: Re: Nerf throwing
Post by: Nightmare798 on August 24, 2013, 10:57:30 pm
what the fuck is wrong with you guys? i gave him a worthwhile advice, either get shield against projectiles or eat shit and get pwned by ranged.
Title: Re: Nerf throwing
Post by: pOLLACABALLO on August 30, 2013, 12:11:18 am
Its not the damage, its the accuracy this guys have, maybe they are level 35 wich i doubt but got hs by them all the freaking time, its ok they got 6 ammo or such, they kill everytime they trow so almost 5 kills each round, its ok for me, i need 3-4 arrows or more to kill somebody, wearing 40 its like lamost ammo for a maximum of 6-7 kills a round, just sayin , and if not they kite... so yes do something with wpf :&
Title: Re: Nerf throwing
Post by: Jarlek on August 30, 2013, 03:45:11 pm
Quote from: pOLLACABALLO on August 30, 2013, 12:11:18 am
Its not the damage, its the accuracy this guys have, maybe they are level 35 wich i doubt but got hs by them all the freaking time, its ok they got 6 ammo or such, they kill everytime they trow so almost 5 kills each round, its ok for me, i need 3-4 arrows or more to kill somebody, wearing 40 its like lamost ammo for a maximum of 6-7 kills a round, just sayin , and if not they kite... so yes do something with wpf :&
You're post made me realize how UP and hard archers are compared to throwers. All throwers are easymode scrubs who gets free kills.

Save poor Pollacaballo!
Nerf throwers, buff archers!

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Title: Re: Nerf throwing
Post by: Nightmare798 on August 30, 2013, 03:52:16 pm
40 armor is actually not that much, i think that my unloomed tunic over mail has about this rating, so its pretty realistic, ITS ACTUALLY A DAMN SPEAR SOMEONE IS THROWING AT YOU!!!
Title: Re: Nerf throwing
Post by: Ellie on August 30, 2013, 10:48:24 pm
Quote from: WarLord on August 30, 2013, 08:20:45 pm
True. My very light outfit has 52 body armor, and I only wear it for the lols and expect to get 1shot by almost everything.

People running around in rags complaining about getting oneshotted by something are funny.  :mrgreen:

I actually seem to survive a hit from a throwing spear on my peasant mode character with 0 IF half the time... as long as it's not a headshot. Lances one hit me though, but that's to be expected.

Honestly surprised the spears dont always.
Title: Re: Nerf throwing
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 30, 2013, 10:54:42 pm
Probably has a lot to do with the speed bonus, most likely to do with your direction of movement in relation to the spear's trajectory.  The difference between someone standing still or walking into a hit can make a huge difference.
Title: Re: Nerf throwing
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on August 30, 2013, 11:32:00 pm
Its quite fun playing as a thrower, even without any lommed gear, because you deal a medium to high damage. The accuracy is not that well and because of the low ammo you are out of throwing stuff before you even saw an enemy, but what are weapon racks for  :lol:
Title: Re: Nerf throwing
Post by: pOLLACABALLO on September 06, 2013, 06:20:51 pm
Quote from: Jarlek on August 30, 2013, 03:45:11 pm
You're post made me realize how UP and hard archers are compared to throwers. All throwers are easymode scrubs who gets free kills.

Save poor Pollacaballo!
Nerf throwers, buff archers!

(click to show/hide)

somebody said something about not being very accurate, well I get killed 10 out of 10 with.. (whatever they throw..) usually hs, I know how to dance and shit, still can do neo's bullet-style moves with arrows but with those guys its just imposible, ... better stand still and pray they get nervous or sumtin lol

take care jarlek

tldr; a guy with 126wpf headshots me all the time from 30m away, no kiddin', thats why I take my minute to type this qq'ng storm,