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Title: Gaming Laptop.
Post by: Casimir on August 20, 2013, 02:32:50 pm
I may be on the market for a new gaming laptop.  Budget is between £1000 - 2000.  Looking for any recommendations or warnings.

My current MSI GX660 would be a benchmark, would like to get something more powerful/reliable.
Title: Re: Gaming Laptop.
Post by: Molly on August 20, 2013, 02:34:16 pm
Dump the mobile tech and get a proper desktop...

...if that ain't an option, make sure you get something that is upgradable in the gfx-slot.
Title: Re: Gaming Laptop.
Post by: Casimir on August 20, 2013, 02:58:05 pm
Well as I'm moving around a lot desktop isn't really an option.

Alienware looks overpriced, razer seems underpowered. Asus have no retailers in the UK so I'm at a loss.

Might stick with MSI and go for a GT70, if anyone knows of a comparable machine please let me know.
Title: Re: Gaming Laptop.
Post by: Kafein on August 20, 2013, 03:05:10 pm
In that budget you can afford a gaming-oriented lenovo
Title: Re: Gaming Laptop.
Post by: pingpong on August 20, 2013, 04:18:17 pm
OR you can forget all this, and buy acer quadcore gaming laptop , its awsome, only a few minor issues like random  bsod's from overheating when gaming, especially c-rpg (=WSE2), keyboard buttons coming off/jamming  (lost 3 so far), audio input is broken so i hear only sound from left headphone, cpu throttling and causing system to freeze at power saving mode, noisy as hell, battery lasts 1h max intense use, but all in all its pretty nice laptop.
Title: Re: Gaming Laptop.
Post by: Casimir on August 20, 2013, 04:35:39 pm
In that budget you can raw a gaming-oriented lenovo

My mate has a mid range lenovo and I wasn't impressed with the quality. After less than a year I've had to replace his keyboard as half the buttons have stopped working and the battery has dropped from 3hr capacity to half hour. Is there gaming range of better quality?

OR you can forget all this, and buy acer quadcore gaming laptop , its awsome, only a few minor issues like random  bsod's from overheating when gaming, especially c-rpg (=WSE2), keyboard buttons coming off/jamming  (lost 3 so far), audio input is broken so i hear only sound from left headphone, cpu throttling and causing system to freeze at power saving mode, noisy as hell, battery lasts 1h max intense use, but all in all its pretty nice laptop.

How long have you had that because seems like quite a few problems on a machine.
Title: Re: Gaming Laptop.
Post by: pingpong on August 20, 2013, 05:18:59 pm
My mate has a mid range lenovo and I wasn't impressed with the quality. After less than a year I've had to replace his keyboard as half the buttons have stopped working and the battery has dropped from 3hr capacity to half hour. Is there gaming range of better quality?

How long have you had that because seems like quite a few problems on a machine.

3 years so its acceptable, funny thing is they all started to appear when the 1 year warranty was up, sneaky these chinese people..  :wink:
Title: Re: Gaming Laptop.
Post by: Jarold on August 21, 2013, 12:46:59 am
My friend just got an MSI Gaming Laptop, I forget the exact name but I think it was $1500. It's funny though, he has a button that turns on super fan mode and it's like portable heater.
Title: Re: Gaming Laptop.
Post by: Hirlok on August 21, 2013, 02:04:30 am
My mate has a mid range lenovo and I wasn't impressed with the quality. After less than a year I've had to replace his keyboard as half the buttons have stopped working and the battery has dropped from 3hr capacity to half hour. Is there gaming range of better quality?

Lenovo was kinda crap for a long time but they have catched up a lot.

I bought a Y500 (i7, mSATA SSD slot, 2x 650M SLI, 2nd graphics can be swapped for additional fan or hd if not playing) and I am quite happy with it after a couple of months.

Rather quiet, hours of gaming (Skyrim, Metro LL and other demanding stuff) without additional cooling pad (just a stand) and performancewise quite ok.

Runs c-rpg at stable 120 FPS, with heavy sweatFX afterprocessing still around 90, totally overmodded Skyrim with heavy ENB at playable framerates (35 outdoors, around 50-60 indoors), etc.

650M allows easy overclocking around 10-20% via nVidia inspector batchfiles, no additional cooling required so far.

sound is better than average, overall quality good.

Weak touchpad, but these things all suck except those on the MacBooks.

Keyboard has some bad placements (small enter button crammed between the rest of the keyboard and the useless numpad), but is otherwise good and has sweet red backlight.

I think there is a  new version out with 2 750M now.
Title: Re: Gaming Laptop.
Post by: Kafein on August 21, 2013, 02:08:40 am
Pay attention to silly keyboard details like is there a virtual numpad if you choose not to have a real one (I hate keyboards without numpad personally) and you need special characters to write in your own moonspeak. There are laptops out there without even a numlock key so you can't input any ascii codes.
Title: Re: Gaming Laptop.
Post by: Casimir on August 21, 2013, 03:14:28 am
Okay might look into lenovo as they seem pretty well priced.

Also I don't need any special characters Kafein :p
Title: Re: Gaming Laptop.
Post by: Sir_Hans on August 21, 2013, 04:33:57 am
Might check out www.Maingear.com (http://www.Maingear.com) if you are looking for a premade gaming laptop.

They focus on Gaming PC's, and it will be overpriced.
But in my experience they are leagues above companies like Alienware/Dell. They make better computers, give you more options, have better customer support, and give you more bang for your buck. When you talk to their customer support, you won't be speaking to someone in India.
That said, they definitely aren't perfect... But if I was forced to buy a gaming laptop from anyone, it would be them.
Although I haven't kept up with this company or its reputation in the past 5+ years... so might want to double check to make sure they haven't been bought out by a parent company or just read some customer feedback if you start thinking about purchasing from them.

As has been mentioned before, you should build a desktop PC if at all possible.
"gaming laptop" is kind of an oxymoron in my book.  :wink: Of course I never really had one, so what do I know.





Title: Re: Gaming Laptop.
Post by: Zaren on August 21, 2013, 07:24:11 am
Alienware looks overpriced, razer seems underpowered. Asus have no retailers in the UK so I'm at a loss.
Alienware is Dell crap now. The original makers made a new company, Origin pc. If ur looking for a top of the line laptop then thats what I would get. That said, its very expensive and I mean VERY. Otherwise a new MSI would be nice.
Here Ill rate a few just my opinion.
scale=1-10
Alienware 6 (Dell takeover=worse quality)
Lenovo 5 or 6 (getting better but still quality problems, id look into this brand in 3 years)
MSI 7 (decent but still lacking in power/too big of a build for the heavier ones)
Asus 7.5 (Good but customer service is lacking and good luck with RMA)
Origin 7.5 or 8 (Very very good but VERY VERY expensive, ull pay a lot just for the quality)
Dell(non alienware), Hp, or similar 4
xotic pc 7 (good prices, decent computers, but I feel like they try to sell you every little thing)
Title: Re: Gaming Laptop.
Post by: Gnjus on August 21, 2013, 08:23:36 am
Better spend those 2k pounds in a pub, we've had enough of you already and we don't wanna see you in any future online games.  :twisted:
Title: Re: Gaming Laptop.
Post by: Kafein on August 21, 2013, 11:53:11 am
I'm advertising lenovo because many people I know working in computer science get a lenovo laptop for work with whatever linux distro they like and say it's awesome.
Title: Re: Gaming Laptop.
Post by: IR_Kuoin on August 21, 2013, 11:56:06 am
No HP laptops
Title: Re: Gaming Laptop.
Post by: Casimir on August 21, 2013, 02:27:19 pm
Currently hung between Novatech gaming range: http://www.novatech.co.uk/laptop/range/novatecheliten1550.html

and a new MSI: http://www.ebuyer.com/536678-msi-gt70-gaming-laptop-gt70-2oc-218uk


Both around the same price and can't really decide which would be better.
Title: Re: Gaming Laptop.
Post by: IR_Kuoin on August 21, 2013, 02:41:44 pm
MSI got a bigger screen but has windows 8 :|
Title: Re: Gaming Laptop.
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on August 21, 2013, 02:42:54 pm
Currently hung between Novatech gaming range: http://www.novatech.co.uk/laptop/range/novatecheliten1550.html

and a new MSI: http://www.ebuyer.com/536678-msi-gt70-gaming-laptop-gt70-2oc-218uk


Both around the same price and can't really decide which would be better.

MSI has a bigger screen... But that gtx 780 seems to be way better, compared to 770:

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-780M-vs-GeForce-GTX-770M (http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-780M-vs-GeForce-GTX-770M)

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1715215/gtx-770m-780m.html (http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1715215/gtx-770m-780m.html)

Personally, i would go with a better card. You can connect an external screen at home anyway, so screen size should not be such a big issue. CPUs are the same, and everything else is irrelevant.
Title: Re: Gaming Laptop.
Post by: Casimir on August 21, 2013, 02:51:05 pm
Yeah I'm also not sure if windows 8 actually benefits from RAM over 8 gigs, know this was the case with Windows 7 Home premium and i wouldn't put it past Microsoft to do so again.

Cheers for the graphics comparison, Novatech seems the better option as screen size isn't a particular issue for me.
Title: Re: Gaming Laptop.
Post by: Casimir on August 21, 2013, 10:16:10 pm
Ordered the novatech,  thanks for the feedback and info.
Title: Re: Gaming Laptop.
Post by: Kafein on August 21, 2013, 10:30:55 pm
Windows 8 doesn't suck when it comes to the technical parts. That said any human would dislike metro using m/k, and 8 is very little else than metro.