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Title: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the field
Post by: Thucydides on May 11, 2011, 06:43:43 am
I am now semibored of the Great long Axe, so i decided to whore a pike or halberd. Man it is so fun teaming up with other pikers and harrassing people, how did i miss this great weapon in the first place?

Oh right, rangespam
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the field
Post by: Cyclopsided on May 11, 2011, 07:03:01 am
TEAMWORK IS THE BEST WEAPON
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the field
Post by: Seawied on May 11, 2011, 07:16:22 am
Rocks. 'nuff said.
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the field
Post by: OzyTheSage on May 11, 2011, 08:45:37 am
Rocks. 'nuff said.

Rocks rock? =p
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the field
Post by: Kafein on May 11, 2011, 08:50:32 am
When you realise you can't twister-stunlock someone with a pike, you soon get back to your GLA.
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the field
Post by: Spawny on May 11, 2011, 10:25:47 am
When you realise you can't twister-stunlock someone with a pike, you soon get back to your GLA.

Ask Devlin from the 22nd. He's so friggin fast with a pike it's not even funny anymore.
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the field
Post by: Seawied on May 11, 2011, 10:35:04 am
Rocks rock? =p

You sir, should go into poetry!
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the field
Post by: karasu on May 11, 2011, 10:53:53 am
When you realise you can't twister-stunlock someone with a pike, you soon get back to your GLA.

Pike is a support weapon, if you stick behind the shield line for cover and timed thrust the enemies it's half win for the team. Try it some time, pikes behind shieldwall, constant stunlock.

Been playing with the combo of Pike + loomed German Poleaxe and I find myself using the pike 90% of the time due to team play with decent scores.
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the field
Post by: Mamba on May 11, 2011, 12:47:51 pm
Having two weapons pike+another polearm is kind of useless now, since you cant sheath the pike. Unless you pick it up when you won the fight.
And yes Devlin is like one of the most annoying pikers out there right now :)

Go away and leave my horse alone!
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the field
Post by: Tor! on May 11, 2011, 02:53:40 pm
Being a pikeman has been alot of fun for ages, even with the new slot system and drop weapon introduced  :P
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the field
Post by: karasu on May 11, 2011, 05:33:39 pm
Being a pikeman has been alot of fun for ages, even with the new slot system and drop weapon introduced  :P

Yeah, I keep losing track of my pike most of the times I need to drop it.  :oops:
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the field
Post by: Penitent on May 11, 2011, 05:40:10 pm
poleaxe is fun. :)

Btw with a thread title like this, you are going to get skewed results in the poll.  But, maybe that's what you were going for. :)
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the field
Post by: Momo on May 11, 2011, 06:07:28 pm
Goedendag!
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the field
Post by: Joxer on May 11, 2011, 06:45:27 pm
I started piking cause it was rare. Now it's not. Not fun anymore. Swiss halberd would be awesome thought. Dont see much of those.
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the field
Post by: Bulzur on May 11, 2011, 07:00:44 pm
Of course i  use a pike, when i see so many cavs around. But unfortunately, there's more cavs in the ennemy team, than pikes in my team, most of the times.

And i believe it must be quite thrilling for cavalry to own this poor pikeman who can't deal with 2 lancers cav, or with one 1h/2h cav constantly bumping and slashing close to him.

But the pike is still fun. Doubt i'll waste heirlooms on it though. For now at least.
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the field
Post by: OzyTheSage on May 11, 2011, 08:08:11 pm
I've been using a pike forever (ever since I gave it a try when I wanted to deal with some horsemen, then I just started running around with it all the time). The slot system has only helped me get better with it, since you're more encouraged to use it since it's harder to get back (try finding it after 6 other guys have been killed on top of your poke stick) and you can't carry as much gear (faster movement).

If you have even one other person with you you can take out a whole bunch of guys together, especially if your friend is a shielder. The enemy usually won't use teamwork and won't even bother blocking your pike, so you get lots of kills from people who aren't paying attention/don't see you as a threat.
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the field
Post by: ShinySpoons on May 12, 2011, 05:06:04 am
Piking has always been awesome, quick tip/trick, with some practice, you can stab through team mates and around corners. Lawlstab but lawlier. Reason being the shaft has no collision detection, once the point goes past something everything behind it is there just for looks.
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the fie
Post by: Casimir on May 12, 2011, 10:19:37 am
Tip 2

Polearm overheads rarely hit teamates.

See ur friend getting fqcehugged, overhead that bitch.
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the fie
Post by: MouthnHoof on May 12, 2011, 01:19:54 pm
Tip 2

Polearm overheads rarely hit teamates.

See ur friend getting fqcehugged, overhead that bitch.
oh, it hits my teammates just fine I am ashamed to admit...
But as opposed to thrust, if the enemy is killed while you are in full swing and charge for the killer speed bonus, at least it does not go through him and hit the friendly on the other side.
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the fie
Post by: Cyclopsided on May 12, 2011, 04:59:50 pm
oh, it hits my teammates just fine I am ashamed to admit...
But as opposed to thrust, if the enemy is killed while you are in full swing and charge for the killer speed bonus, at least it does not go through him and hit the friendly on the other side.
No it doesn't. Pole arm overheads don't hit teammates except on the backswing. You'll murder the shit out of friendlies behind you thouh [makes for funny situations]. Now, you can kill a teammate in front of you only by smacking them  with the handle. But if they aren't touching you it won't hit the teammates. So, DIf you don't hug the back of your teammates you can overhead straight through them. collision detection lolol
/works with flamberge too
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the field
Post by: OzyTheSage on May 12, 2011, 07:42:44 pm
They changed the name of the pike to long spear =p

I wouldn't mind if they had just made it "short pike" though. It will always be a pike to me.

As for overheads, yeah, it doesn't hit teammates often, but with the overhead animation if you're on a staircase or anything where there's a wall or uneven structures (weapons pass through terrain so it doesn't count there) a long weapon will bounce off the ground 3 meters behind you, causing your attack to stop in midair.
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the field
Post by: Joxer on May 13, 2011, 12:39:01 am
It's a spear if you can use a shield with it. It's a pike if you cannot. That's how it should be. Spearmen suck balls. Pikers rule. Whatever the name I'm still always a piker  :D
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the field
Post by: Erwin on May 13, 2011, 02:18:49 am
I like short polearms, bec de corbin to the back of the head is my favorite move. :P
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the field
Post by: dado on May 13, 2011, 07:46:34 pm
It's a spear if you can use a shield with it. It's a pike if you cannot. That's how it should be. Spearmen suck balls. Pikers rule. Whatever the name I'm still always a piker  :D

me to! :)  +1
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the field
Post by: Kafein on May 13, 2011, 08:01:39 pm
I tested the long pike, now simply renamed pike AND with 300  :o :!: instead of 280 reach. It's plain awesome. No overhead so no more cheap overhead + teammates collision trick. But the thrust tricks work just fine, and it's bloody long. Teaming up with a shield usually means topping the scoreboard together.

Try it too Joxer !!!
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the field
Post by: Joxer on May 14, 2011, 09:20:18 am
I've tried it. It's bit useless unless you have few guys with you. It's too slow. As it is now most of the time you have barely enough time to turn around when you hear a cav coming. With long pike I never managed to land any hits on horses. Also the normal pike (yeah I know it's renamed but it's always a pike to me) is somewhat usefull in melee too. Long pike is so slow that after you manage to block a hit you dont even have a change to try to hit yourself.
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the field
Post by: Cyclopsided on May 14, 2011, 10:34:32 am
I've tried it. It's bit useless unless you have few guys with you. It's too slow. As it is now most of the time you have barely enough time to turn around when you hear a cav coming. With long pike I never managed to land any hits on horses. Also the normal pike (yeah I know it's renamed but it's always a pike to me) is somewhat usefull in melee too. Long pike is so slow that after you manage to block a hit you dont even have a change to try to hit yourself.
Yeah, the long spear you can melee in 1 v 1 combat so if you aren't always using teamwork it is better.
BUT I LOVE THE PIKE, even though it can not kill in 1 v 1 fights (you can't damage anyone within 2.5 feet of you. 2 feet closest to you it will probably ghost right through them, the next half foot glancing. Which means any 1h (most 2h,short weapons, etc) in range of hitting you, you can't do damage to them. I LIKE THAT. Also, If they block the pike they can kill you before you can block. The stun on the thrust is so long that they can 95% of he time hit you before you can block if you DO manage to stab the enemy in a 1v1 and he blocks it. lol 68 speed.

I prefer the long, slow, poke only, low damage, unable-to-1v1 Pike. because I use teamwork at all times possible.

*side note: last night I had a 5 hour streak of x5 on NA siege & battle. Teamwork won in terrifying ways.
Title: Re: Pikes, Halberds, Bills, and awlpikes are now the funniest weapons on the field
Post by: Glyph on May 14, 2011, 11:56:33 am
Goedendag!
momo momo momo... first the long iron mace, then the great maul and now the goedendag?! what's next?! a spiked mace!

i loled