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Title: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Akynos on August 07, 2013, 07:19:02 pm
We have been treated as dogs for too long, fellow TK- Victims !

Let us unite and fight to dilate the TKer's rim !

With thrice control M the TKer shall understand,

That the fate of his multi lies in our hands !


WHO'S WITH MEH??!!?!1


Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Switchtense on August 07, 2013, 10:33:20 pm
so that the dipshits who report every teamhit get you kicked instantly after they ran in your swings thrice? no thanks :P
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Akynos on August 07, 2013, 10:53:16 pm
The dipshits wouldn't report you in the first place if you took a minimum care when swinging.
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on August 07, 2013, 10:54:56 pm
lol no way in hell someone teamkilled you in less than five teamhits...
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 07, 2013, 10:58:24 pm
Quote from: Akynos on August 07, 2013, 07:19:02 pm
We have been treated as dogs for too long, fellow TK- Victims !

Let us unite and fight to dilate the TKer's rim !

With thrice control M the TKer shall understand,

That the fate of his multi lies in our hands !


WHO'S WITH MEH??!!?!1

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Someone is intentionally hitting you more than 3 times in a map?  Maybe you should take screenshots and start a ban thread. That is your best course of action if you want to see someone's intentional team hitting be stopped.

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Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: XyNox on August 07, 2013, 11:06:12 pm
I dont think this is about people who intentionally teamhit. I think 3 reports would fit because it would maybe make people care more about their swings. Seriously, I have NEVER gotten to 5/5 unintentional teamhits and if you have this problem on a regular basis, you shall experience the consequenses because you suck big time.
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Malaclypse on August 07, 2013, 11:08:22 pm
Make it one time instead of 3 or 5.
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: San on August 07, 2013, 11:18:25 pm
I think the 5 is mostly to weed out the most egregious cases. If it's for a whole map, 3 seems a little too low. People are just lucky that most don't M as much.
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Gravoth_iii on August 08, 2013, 02:43:11 am
Dont think ive ever hit 3 reports, if you do hit 3 reports you are doing something wrong.
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Adalwulf on August 08, 2013, 05:00:37 am
just NO, I got reported today for drawing my bow near a teamate....HE FUCKED UP MY DRAWING AN ARROW AND I GOT REPORTED? REMOVE NO DAMAGE REPORTS AND REMOVE ARCHER DRAW BUMP.
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Little Lord Lollipop on August 08, 2013, 05:05:04 am
Teammates need to stop blocking my arrows.
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Vermilion on August 08, 2013, 05:31:42 am
I vote reduce the amount required to 3. However, they are only active for (10min?). So in order to get kicked you have to team wound multiple times in a short period of time.

This way when accidental hits are made you just have to be extra careful for 10min. If you try to troll you quickly get kicked from the server.

The current system of lasting the entire map makes 3 reports too low. (Especially for strat battles/sieges)

Note - Once after 0 damage hits are removed again.
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Jarold on August 08, 2013, 05:54:39 am
That's even worse!!
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: rufio on August 08, 2013, 06:19:00 am
report system is fine. asking for this change, especially after the implementation of 0damage reportables, is pretty damn stupid. all you guys who +1 this have potato brain.
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Vermilion on August 08, 2013, 06:29:31 am
Quote from: rufio on August 08, 2013, 06:19:00 am
report system is fine. asking for this change, especially after the implementation of 0damage reportables, is pretty damn stupid. all you guys who +1 this have potato brain.

Yes, in  current system it would be stupid to change, however..

Quote from: chadz on July 27, 2013, 11:07:43 pm
Urist: - made 0 damage teamhits reportable for now

Didn't think it was necessary to mention in my suggestion.. but that is after 0 damage hits are removed again. (But either way there is no reason to make 3 or more 0 damage team hits, which get reported, within the time limit I suggested)

EDIT

Also have you seen -

http://forum.meleegaming.com/suggestions-corner/remove-0-damage-reporting/msg837171/#msg837171
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: rufio on August 08, 2013, 08:39:18 am
well thats a good change atleast, still lobbying for something like this still only for potatos imo, 5 hits is a nice ballance, and anybody who is intentionally being a douche and hitting teamm8ts will reach that point quick enough. also on siege where there are alot of chokepoints it would get people kicked all the time for unintentional teamhits. potato!
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: JackieChan on August 08, 2013, 08:54:06 am
potato, potato, read the OP and following post carfully, this change is not intended only for intentional teamwounders
but for all those retards who swing wildly in melee in attempt to get the kill and dont say sorry.


and potato potato, those guys rarely get kicked because with all the multiple wounding they do in the heat of the melee, you only have time to report once.
potato potato potato.
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Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: rufio on August 08, 2013, 09:30:51 am
BUT POTATO! have you tried imagening how much potatoes would be kicked because alot of potato douches ctrl m on every chance they get. i think 5 is fine, and alot of potatoes actually daisys
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Fredom on August 08, 2013, 09:31:36 am
Fck it:P I wanna see you getting kicked from the server because of 3 th's not on purpose! 5 is good and 3 too less! Just keep this system!
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Akynos on August 08, 2013, 05:22:50 pm
I never have seen a single guy getting kicked out of the server because he didn't care about his swings. They all were intentional teamkillers. However the issue of teamhits is still there, it's still ruining the fun.
What if I lose 70% HP to a guy who didnt give a fuck about his swings?
How am I to enjoy the game when a dumbass turns me into an easy target?
Am I to suffer for this guy's stupidity?
 ARE WE, BOYS ?

Reducing it to 3 reports would ensure that those careless idiots would not spam senselessly in clusterfucks. Losing an x5 because you spammed your mates will make many think about their gameplay, trust me. And I'm included, because I teamhit a lot. But I'd rather be kicked along with all those other guys rather than to have a free TH server.
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: rufio on August 08, 2013, 06:44:52 pm
maybe, just maybe you get teamhit alot because you eager potato and run in for greedy last bite of potato
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on August 08, 2013, 07:23:14 pm
You know you have no ground to stand on when both rufio and myself agree you're wrong.
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Riddaren on August 08, 2013, 08:58:04 pm
Why not test out a report limit of 3? If it doesn't work just change it back.

Since most of us don't report someone for unintentional teamhits it's very rare to see someone getting kicked for being careless.
It won't hurt reminding the most careless people to play more careful imo.
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on August 08, 2013, 09:06:46 pm
I'd say 3 might be ok as long as 0 damage hits don't get you reported. I've been reported lots of times for team hitting by accident and even when I apologise people still ctrl M me because their assholes, if it was 3 instead of 5 people would just abuse. I mean look at back when the report feature was first added people went crazy reporting each other over every small th even if it was by pure accident! Making it 3 now I think would just send people on a report everything spree again.
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Vermilion on August 08, 2013, 09:10:57 pm
One alternative would be to re-add being able to report all hits (not 0 damage)

Currently someone can spam and hit you 3-4 times between reports and then you can only report the last one.
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: XyNox on August 08, 2013, 09:11:12 pm
What is this madness I am witnessing in here ? Who is in charge behind this conspiracy ?

What man, to be in ones right senses, would argue IN FAVOUR of teamhits ? What is the gain behind a higher tolerance to teamhits when the current system already allows more than is even needed ?
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on August 08, 2013, 09:13:38 pm
Quote from: XyNox on August 08, 2013, 09:11:12 pm
What is this madness I am witnessing in here ? Who is in charge behind this conspiracy ?

What man, to be in ones right senses, would argue IN FAVOUR of teamhits ? What is the gain behind a higher tolerance to teamhits when the current system already allows more than is even needed ?

Oh sure I mean if my horse's rear cliped a team-mate as I walked past and it done 0 damage and they report me I'm clearly in the wrong even though I've done no damage. If they stop 0 damage hits being reported sure make it only 3 until 0 damage reports are not reportable fuck having to be only reported 3 times.
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Akynos on August 08, 2013, 10:13:21 pm
I agree that in this case the 0 damage report should be removed as indeed it would lead to easy abuse by ctrl m maniacs.
My suggestion still stands !
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: XyNox on August 08, 2013, 10:15:52 pm
Quote from: Hunter_the_Honourable on August 08, 2013, 09:13:38 pm
Oh sure I mean if my horse's rear cliped a team-mate as I walked past and it done 0 damage and they report me I'm clearly in the wrong even though I've done no damage. If they stop 0 damage hits being reported sure make it only 3 until 0 damage reports are not reportable fuck having to be only reported 3 times.

I agree with restricting 0 damage teamhits from being reportable unless they show an actual negative effect on you like stagger, knockdown or interruption of any sort, as there is no harm done as long as those do not apply. Your horses rear clipping someone however is enough to inflict just this type of interruption and should indeed be reportable, since the game cant distinguish if it happens in a critical situation or not.

Other than that, I was primarily speaking of the sheer amount of teamhits in my earlier statement. Given the fact that, fortunately, most people dont report unintentional teamhits ( at least in EU ) means that even those people who absolutely dont give a shit about their swings can get away with it on a regular basis.
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Riddaren on August 12, 2013, 07:53:03 pm
Now and then a teamate on horse rides in front of your horse, causing it to stop.
A stop near enemies will get you or your horse hit. Sometimes the horse dies, sometimes you die.
When you die, you have been inderectly teamkilled. But it can't be reported.

If possible, make it possible to report teamates who stop your horse.

Good cavalry players rarely stop each other and I wouldn't report someone I know can play cavalry.
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on August 12, 2013, 08:28:25 pm
Quote from: Riddaren on August 12, 2013, 07:53:03 pm
Now and then a teamate on horse rides in front of your horse, causing it to stop.
A stop near enemies will get you or your horse hit. Sometimes the horse dies, sometimes you die.
When you die, you have been inderectly teamkilled. But it can't be reported.

If possible, make it possible to report teamates who stop your horse.

Good cavalry players rarely stop each other and I wouldn't report someone I know can play cavalry.

I agree, there's nothing more irritating then when another rider just cuts you off when there are lots of enemies around you, more so when most of them are ranged. If that was added that would be fantastic!
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on August 12, 2013, 11:15:42 pm
Quote from: Riddaren on August 12, 2013, 07:53:03 pm
Now and then a teamate on horse rides in front of your horse, causing it to stop.
A stop near enemies will get you or your horse hit. Sometimes the horse dies, sometimes you die.
When you die, you have been inderectly teamkilled. But it can't be reported.

If possible, make it possible to report teamates who stop your horse.

Good cavalry players rarely stop each other and I wouldn't report someone I know can play cavalry.
Bad idea imo, more often than not those kinds of situations will have the stopping player die in order to not stop you, are more the stopped than the stoppings fault or just the same, and it'd be insanely griefable as someone on a loomed courser with 13 riding could get all his cav teammates kicked off the server with ease.
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Riddaren on August 13, 2013, 07:07:28 pm
Quote from: Zlisch_The_Butcher on August 12, 2013, 11:15:42 pm
Bad idea imo, more often than not those kinds of situations will have the stopping player die in order to not stop you, are more the stopped than the stoppings fault or just the same, and it'd be insanely griefable as someone on a loomed courser with 13 riding could get all his cav teammates kicked off the server with ease.

Griefing is quite uncommon and it's also bannable so I don't see it as a problem.
Besides it's already possible to to use a 13 athletics peasant and run in front of teamate horsemen only to report them.

Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Rumblood on August 14, 2013, 12:52:03 am
Quote from: Riddaren on August 13, 2013, 07:07:28 pm
Griefing is quite uncommon.

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Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on August 14, 2013, 12:55:36 am
Quote from: Rumblood on August 14, 2013, 12:52:03 am
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Maybe its common on NA, but on EU I rarely see people griefing.   :o
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: rufio on August 14, 2013, 10:59:07 am
damn murricans, eu best
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on August 14, 2013, 03:16:37 pm
Quote from: rufio on August 14, 2013, 10:59:07 am
damn murricans, eu best

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Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Smoothrich on August 14, 2013, 03:27:13 pm
Quote from: Riddaren on August 13, 2013, 07:07:28 pm
Griefing is quite uncommon

The only reason to ever hit "m" is to grief.
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Hunter_the_Honourable on August 14, 2013, 03:30:49 pm
Quote from: Smoothrich on August 14, 2013, 03:27:13 pm
The only reason to ever hit "m" is to grief.

Nah, its to report archers who shoot into melee and clumsy people who don't watch were they swing.  :P
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Bulzur on August 14, 2013, 08:14:29 pm
Now that 0 dmg teamhit are not reportable (except nudge and kicks, but that's interrupting, so good thing it's reportable), i wouldn't mind changing the report system.

A limit of 3.
OR
A limit of 5, but the possibility of reporting for 1 or 2. Sometimes, the teamhit is SO obvious, you really feel like 1 report isn't enough...

Both would make griefers kicked in 3 reports.
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: rufio on August 26, 2013, 01:39:41 am
Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on August 26, 2013, 02:25:31 am
Quote from: rufio on August 26, 2013, 01:39:41 am

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Title: Re: *RAGE TOPIC* Reduce number of reports from 5 to 3
Post by: Ellie on August 26, 2013, 02:43:25 am
Quote from: san. on August 07, 2013, 11:18:25 pm
I think the 5 is mostly to weed out the most egregious cases. If it's for a whole map, 3 seems a little too low. People are just lucky that most don't M as much.


This. Exactly this. I only report horse bumps and hits that get me killed(Or teamkilled). If everyone reported every little hit by an archer or person swinging nearby, well... There'd be a LOT less people on at a time since many would be gone in three. Not everything is intentional, and since teamhit damage is reduced it's not USUALLY a huge issue.


Quote from: JackieChan on August 08, 2013, 08:54:06 am
potato, potato, read the OP and following post carfully, this change is not intended only for intentional teamwounders
but for all those retards who swing wildly in melee in attempt to get the kill and dont say sorry.




A lot of people run into shit too, and still report when people say sorry.