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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Nightmare798 on August 05, 2013, 11:16:32 am

Title: how to make shield bash useful...
Post by: Nightmare798 on August 05, 2013, 11:16:32 am
right now, shieldbash doesnt do jack and usually gets you killed when you try to perform it. there is not really any advantage landing shield bash, so:
either give it a blunt damage like 10, or make it faster for shield basher to perform, so he can use the opening shield bash gives.
Title: Re: how to make shield bash useful...
Post by: Nordwolf on August 05, 2013, 11:31:59 am
Shieldbash is not meant as an ultimate stun (like kick), it's meant to push people.

And it's incredibly awesome in small passages, when pushing from high places etc.
One issue is that you don't get credited if you push someone to death :D
Title: Re: how to make shield bash useful...
Post by: Nightmare798 on August 05, 2013, 11:35:36 am
Shieldbash is not meant as an ultimate stun (like kick), it's meant to push people.

And it's incredibly awesome in small passages, when pushing from high places etc.
One issue is that you don't get credited if you push someone to death :D
you need to perform in at face hug range and even then there is a huge chance the hit doesnt connect. pushing people is nice if they ever stood in one place for at least 3 seconds otherwise you have no chance of pushing someone from a ledge. all this shitty feature adds is trolling opportunities for pushing your achers or team mates off ledge or wall.
Title: Re: how to make shield bash useful...
Post by: Haboe on August 05, 2013, 12:42:34 pm
If you do it correct, its easy to hit.

At the moment its usefull to shieldbash a guy, then let your teammate get a free hit on him.
Title: Re: how to make shield bash useful...
Post by: Molly on August 05, 2013, 01:10:47 pm
If you do it correct, its easy to hit.

At the moment its usefull to shieldbash a guy, then let your teammate get a free hit on him.
...and I don't think that it's intended to do anything more.
Title: Re: how to make shield bash useful...
Post by: Tydeus on August 05, 2013, 01:31:54 pm
Shoves (defend + v) are to create space and provide opportunities for allies to get hits. Neutral nudge (not holding an attack or block + v) and attack nudge (holding a swing + v) are the more offensive of the three.
Title: Re: how to make shield bash useful...
Post by: Nightmare798 on August 05, 2013, 02:42:36 pm
If you do it correct, its easy to hit.

At the moment its usefull to shieldbash a guy, then let your teammate get a free hit on him.
you cant do it correct with with a 2h katana spammer going in town on you.
Title: Re: how to make shield bash useful...
Post by: Molly on August 05, 2013, 02:45:00 pm
you cant do it correct with with a 2h katana spammer going in town on you.
Ever occurred to you that maybe... just maybe... YOU can't do it but actual good players can? Think about it... :D
Title: Re: how to make shield bash useful...
Post by: Nightmare798 on August 05, 2013, 02:53:27 pm
Ever occurred to you that maybe... just maybe... YOU can't do it but actual good players can? Think about it... :D
i have been bashed like 2 times last week... TWO TIMES OVER THE WHOLE WEEK!
that thing is a suicide because everyone will just backpedal, and if you by any miracle land it it is useless anyway because they recover as soon as you attack.
Title: Re: how to make shield bash useful...
Post by: Lennu on August 05, 2013, 03:06:14 pm
Have_at_Thee is using shield nudge extremely well. When he gets into the facehug range, attack + nudge + attack. Nothing fancy, but this fucks up the momentum, and confuses because it breaks the typical attack - block - attack - block rhythm of 1v1 melee allowing him to attack twice in a row. 
Title: Re: how to make shield bash useful...
Post by: Nightmare798 on August 05, 2013, 03:10:25 pm
Have_at_Thee is using shield nudge extremely well. When he gets into the facehug range, attack + nudge + attack. Nothing fancy, but this fucks up the momentum, and confuses because it breaks the typical attack - block - attack - block rhythm of 1v1 melee allowing him to attack twice in a row.
untill you use left swing right when he shieldbashes, fucking him over, possibly knocking him down with barmace, and then roflstomping him when he is on ground.
Title: Re: how to make shield bash useful...
Post by: Wolfsblood on August 05, 2013, 03:18:28 pm
I find it easy and very useful on my hop/one hander. Usefull for when I need to change to my sidearm or put my shield on my back and very usefull for fucking with someone cuase they don't expect it. I mess up on it maybe one out of six times, which I find negligible. 

Maybe u just need more practise?
Title: Re: how to make shield bash useful...
Post by: Necrorave on August 05, 2013, 06:56:35 pm
I find it easy and very useful on my hop/one hander. Usefull for when I need to change to my sidearm or put my shield on my back and very usefull for fucking with someone cuase they don't expect it. I mess up on it maybe one out of six times, which I find negligible. 

Maybe u just need more practise?

I tried telling this guy that a while ago.  He does not understand.
Title: Re: how to make shield bash useful...
Post by: Phew on August 05, 2013, 08:39:10 pm
Risk/reward is about right on shield shove. On siege especially, it usually means a gravity kill when you land one, but you get hit if you mis-time it.

All I ask is that:
1. Shove distance be a function of shield skill instead of strength (otherwise you'll see all the 2h strength crutchers running around with a practice shield shoving people across the map)
2. Gravity kills resulting from shoves be credited as a kill, rather than a suicide for the shovee
Title: Re: how to make shield bash useful...
Post by: XyNox on August 05, 2013, 08:51:54 pm
Do you have a brother Nightmare ? And if so, is there any chance he is calling himself Ras_FrenzYYY ?