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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: ThePoopy on May 10, 2011, 03:45:23 pm

Title: Langes Messer
Post by: ThePoopy on May 10, 2011, 03:45:23 pm
make it 2 slot

why: *hint* ranged *hint*

2h mode:
37c
25p
100 speed
92 lenght

its like an bastardsword and arab cav sword in 1 wep (1 slot too)
Title: Re: Langes Messer
Post by: John on May 10, 2011, 03:50:48 pm
Except it's worse than either of those and you can only use one mode at a time anyway. 
Title: Re: Langes Messer
Post by: Memento_Mori on May 10, 2011, 04:45:44 pm
I don't understand why there aren't any 2 slot 1h weapons.
Looking at the size and weight of the 2 slot 2 handers and comparing with the 1 handers I think you guys might see my point..
Why a katana, which is lighter and smaller is 2 slots, yet the langes messer heavier and about the same length, is 1 slot.
They're both around the same price

heres another one of a same weight sword, but longer.

Arabian Guard Sword
weapon length: 100
weight: 1.3
difficulty: 12
speed rating: 98
weapon length: 100
thrust damage: 20 pierce
swing damage: 30 cut
slots: 1

Katana
weapon length: 95
weight: 1.3
difficulty: 9
speed rating: 101
weapon length: 95
thrust damage: 16 pierce
swing damage: 35 cut
slots: 2
so what exactly makes it 2 slots or 1 slot because this doesn't make sense to me, it's not length, weight, or difficulty.. is it... Magic?
Title: Re: Langes Messer
Post by: Dravic on May 10, 2011, 05:23:36 pm
Devs already said it's all about balancing, not aesthetic/length stuff.
Title: Re: Langes Messer
Post by: EponiCo on May 10, 2011, 05:44:29 pm
Yeah, I've been wondering about that too. Though, tbh you'd rather compare it to the katana, 1 less speed, crappy but working stab, 3 less length and 2 more damage.
Title: Re: Langes Messer
Post by: Memento_Mori on May 10, 2011, 05:45:39 pm
Devs already said it's all about balancing, not aesthetic/length stuff.

so then why is the langes messer not 2 slots?
or the fighting axe,

both these are 1h/2h just like the bastard swords/katana

if they did it through balancing like you said would these not have been changed as well? Makes even less sense now.

Spiked mace is 1 slot as well but is a 1h/2h ... I don't get it.

Only a wizard can understand the magic behind 1 slot or 2.
Title: Re: Langes Messer
Post by: ThePoopy on May 10, 2011, 06:10:23 pm
i wish tho all bastard sword worked as langes messer, atm u can only use them as 1h with shield, and they have too high dmg/speed penatly
Title: Re: Langes Messer
Post by: Radix on May 10, 2011, 07:06:54 pm
if u would want to make 1h taking 2 slots, u got to concider that u will decrease number of anti-cav dirasticly, cose most of ppl that cary pikes (except dedicated spearmans ofc) are 1h shielders.
Title: Re: Langes Messer
Post by: MadJackMcMad on May 10, 2011, 07:34:26 pm
Devs already said it's all about balancing, not aesthetic/length stuff.

The trident is two slots.  They must have confused it with the nuclear deterrent?
Title: Re: Langes Messer
Post by: Shinimas on May 10, 2011, 10:07:17 pm
Except it's worse than either of those and you can only use one mode at a time anyway.

And it has a polearm thrust in 2H mode. Plus, it will hurt shielders, bastard/katana are two-handers by nature, after all, unlike LMesser.
Title: Re: Langes Messer
Post by: MouthnHoof on May 11, 2011, 03:54:13 pm
And it has a polearm thrust in 2H mode.
on a 92 reach weapon that is REALLY short range. Confuses many opponents though :)
Main reason I like it is because I have a 1H/2H hybrid, so I can use it both ways. It is not really impressive either way, but a decent weapon still. Bastard weapons are only truly viable in 1H if you use them from horseback.
Title: Re: Langes Messer
Post by: Kaelaen on May 11, 2011, 04:27:54 pm
Thing about it being short range though is I can stab people point blank with it and never whiff.  Not once in the duel server did I need to spin stab for it to be effective, and when I'm right there in people's faces with a supposed two-hander stabbing with a polearm animation, it really messes with people's heads.  I read somewhere on these forums that the lolstab had transferred from two-handers to polearms, and I'd have to agree because whenever I stabbed people it made me lol.