... and friendships(Frisia, Raven, by extension) to pick them up, and paid outlandish sums of which we(TkoV)have seen nothing. Chaos is the only faction which acquired land through our fall which did not break an explicit or implied agreement(but at the same time, acquired Velucan lands for nothing, as far as TKoV is concerned).
You are all very lucky I don't still lead the faction, As TKoV is still stronger than any faction that has betrayed us in the fall of TVE. I am acting as the de-facto leader of the council and playing into their interests, rather my own.
We had passage agreements to TKoV which Bonesaw violated, not us. You are aware that Bonesaw declared war on us, right? Everybody on the map knows he went crazy and wanted to go out with a bang but in doing that he caused the downfall of his faction.
Saying we betrayed yall is a bit much.
To my memory, it took less then a week for tVE to collapse. I left TKoV specifically for how poorly the entire situation was handled albeit multiple parties did associate in the complete pathetic wimper of a noise as one of the greater factions North American Fiefdoms divided for ridiculous reasons.
Did my campaigns with TKoV in Strat 3 & 4 and have good comrades still amongst them, still, it was pathetic on most all parts.
As for the land disputes... Much was lost that we all worked to gain. Such a waste to see it all go like that and waste tickets to internal disputes.
Nevertheless, it's interesting to see these new super factions form.
Super Factions are only interesting if you lead oneShitty breakdown due to miscommunication and poor handling of leadership leading to a collapse of a super faction.
Source: Led super faction
give it to your retarded vassal(excepting sanders)
outside kingdoms broke truces(SS)
Wait... what? Who the hell is a vassal of the Ravens? CHAOS? Semen Storm? The Aggregate Alliance? Occitan? Please clarify.
*cough, Saren.* You attacked my neighboring vassal and handed it over to a chinese overlord. Not much else to say about that.
I was more or less pointing to where you implied we had an agreement of any kind, which was incorrect.
I was more or less pointing to where you implied we had an agreement of any kind, which was incorrect.If you have any agreement with us, which you do, ask Occi. You sold our fief to a CN faction which has repeatedly stolen our S&d. Declare them as your vassals if you like, but they will not last in our proximity, even if you do. They have broken our CF by taking our supply and demand.
Aparrently TKov and Occitan have a CF for several months, which involves SS, which I had to recently argue with other TKoVs about, attacking Saren was clearly against the agreement, and if we do attack Saren in the near future(we will) it will be on the same spirit in which the CF was agreed. We wont attack you after or anything, but dont expect us to extend agreements to your CN vassals whom break our agreement repeatedly by taking our S&d.
Adoptagoat, quit crying and do something about it. Or just attack FCC too... Whatever.
Also wasn't this post due like two months ago?
The TKoV, Occi and SS Cf still applies, it still doesn't end for several months, Would you like for me to ignore it and declare my personal declaration in support of FCC before tristran gets back? Whatever way the cookie crumbles, tkov is independent (to YOUR advantage) and you assholes have broken it in attacking our vassals at our doorstep. If and when we attack Saren, your involvement in the defense, should you insist, will be taken into account. You have no place to be attacking our vassals, albeit rebelling, on our doorstep. Much less to hand it over to CN's which will refuse our diplomacy and take our S&D without a word. It is in fact strictly contrary to the treaty we have signed with your overlords.
Well, apparently, I was mistaken, and our clans are officially closer than is public. All the more reason for you not to take my retarded vassal's land and give it to your retarded vassal(excepting sanders), thereby creating strife between us.
Yes, this post was due a month ago, but should that make it any less relevant? TKoV remains a faction in strat and any affront to us remains an affront to us. Personally, I am confused by any FCC involvement in our de jure war as it only serves to fight your LCO enemies Were it my decision to make, TKOV would be straight up FCC Allies in the war to come, your opposition puzzles me.
Edit: Oh, I get it, let me know when fcc is sending us troops and gear.
I am honored to be named as the only mentally competent vassal, but mildly perturbed to be considered a vassal of Raven (unless I am misunderstanding you; very possible).(click to show/hide)
For ME, if you're arrowaine's vassals, after all we and FCC have done for you, that makes it straightforward. I sincerely hope your post is ironic, but I fear it is true. Sanders, ALL of the fiefs you used to own were seized or sold by my vassals. Make your choice smartly. If you choose occitan overlordship, it is what it is. I sincerely implore you to reconsider. You are on the border of a great war, LCO is not the NA choice. At the worst, independece until the last remains to you, but attacking FCC in accordance with LCO wishes would make you a tool. Remember the where you have come from, LCO had NO PART.
Edit: you are Raven vassals to the extent you allow yourselves to be
For ME, if you're arrowaine's vassals, after all we and FCC have done for you, that makes it straightforward. I sincerely hope your post is ironic, but I fear it is true. Sanders, ALL of the fiefs you used to own were seized or sold by my vassals. Make your choice smartly. If you choose occitan overlordship, it is what it is. I sincerely implore you to reconsider. You are on the border of a great war, LCO is not the NA choice. At the worst, independece until the last remains to you, but attacking FCC in accordance with LCO wishes would make you a tool. Remember the where you have come from, LCO had NO PART.
Edit: you are Raven vassals to the extent you allow yourselves to be
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Good lord, someone clearly got into my forum account AND my whiskey last night.Drunk Goat best Goat
Taser has the right of it, just a little venting and sharing the way it went down from my perspective.
Much love to my old friends from NH, Frisia, MB, Chaos and HOC. Don't take it personal.
From the keep of Nova Grunwalder castle, Adoptagoat, Lord of TKoV, Conqueror of Khudan, Most Illustrious Wielder of the Lawlpike, Rider of Goats, Crutcher of Levels, Administrator of the Law and Uncle to The Kingdom of Veluca,- Acting Steward to the Kingdom of Veluca and Velucan Empire could see the vast expanses of the former Velucan Empire in all 4 directions. To his east, the crownlands, held by The Kingdom proper. Sworn to support the Lord Emperor God King Robert, the Goat's own nephew. The crownlands remained loyal to their liege. When the grizzled lord closed his eyes, he could see the royal purple banners flying over the Kingdom's fiefs, the warm welcomes he had received from the lords and captains that the old campaigner had visited in years past.
To the South and West, he could see the great mountain holdfasts of the Empire's former vassals, remaining in open rebellion to their rightful Emperor's rule. The once loyal Hounds were scattered, the castles and fiefs they held in trust for the God Emperor were either sold off for personal gain or abandoned to foreign barbarians or encroaching neighboring Kingdoms, some which had previously declared friendship and had bled, side by side with the old Lord, much to the his chagrin "We helped them before, and in our moment of weakness, they seized upon our lands", the Lord seethed . The acting Steward of Veluca shook his head, "for what?" he asked the wind, "So Bonesaw could wear a crown for a week?" It was somehow worse, back in the keep, where he could see upon the map the few lonely strongholds in the desert that Les Chevalier Occitan had remaining when the empire had shattered, mere weeks away from LCO capitulation
To the north was where the Lord most dreaded to gaze. He saw the frontiers of the renowned Murder Boners. The MBs stood in active opposition to their former Leader's decrees. They remained in opposition to their former Lords and refused to relinquish the lands granted to them by the charter of the Velucan Empire, despite having abandoned the most illustrious Empire in the North American Fiefdoms. He could envision the MB Lieutenants and Sergeants, who were among his oldest companions, who the Lord had trusted and fought beside personally, regardless of Empire diplomacy-even before their oaths of fealty to the Empire, who were in open arms against their former allies and benefactors. What hurt most was the knowledge that one of his oldest comrades had defected to take up arms and command against his own nation.
Adoptagoat fingered the letters which his scribes had prepared. The contents were nonsense to the layman, the foreign dignitary, or even to the loyal Lords of the Kingdom of Veluca. Only the shadowy operatives of the Goat Faction, to whom the Lord of Veluca had sent private feelers out in the Empire's days of prosperity, members of the Kingdom whose experience with the old Lord had made their fealty to the revered Goat first and foremost before their loyalty to the God Emperor. These operatives had continued to serve the Goat in his service to his Leader, and would have been able to decipher the code embedded in the nonsense missives. Adoptagoat seethed at the insults to the Empire, and to the very structure which had made the most feared faction in the North American Fiefdoms a mean and, while not insignificant, not a major piece of the greater war which was brewing in the lands of Calradia.
The De Facto Steward sighed, and looked away from his borders. His eyes wandered to the yard within the castle. He saw the bustle of training, recruitment and trade which had always revolved around the stone castle, as long as the Kingdom had controlled it. But what he missed was more important to the Lord. He could not see the former military leader of the Kingdoms. He presumed Hobb remained in his chambers in Ergellon, enthralled by the harpy in whose talons the Goat had last seen him, the very one which had led the former leader from the Imperial military Capital to the border stronghold. Adoptagoat could picture the ring which he had seen, right before leaving the outpost, upon the former leader's finger, which had left Hobb within the harpy's thrall. He could also picture his liege-lord's drunken orgies, within the walls of the capital proper, the invitation to which had always made his stays in the Imperial City brief. But lastly, the grizzled Lord could see the hoof-prints, which led the proper Steward of Veluca away. His return was assured to the old Veteran, the weight of command, which he used to bear so easily, would be lifted from his shoulders, in time. The Old Lord was torn. "Is this the time?" He asked the air. "Was this what the Goat Faction has worked towards?" The acting ruler summoned his messengers, but while waiting for his most loyal squires, the seasoned veteran paused, The missives remained in his grasp. He quickly thrust them in the beacon fire upon the rampart. When his squires arrived, he told them to bring food, but first, ale. "not yet," the old man mused to himself, "not yet."
Good lord, someone clearly got into my forum account AND my whiskey last night.
Taser has the right of it, just a little venting and sharing the way it went down from my perspective.
Much love to my old friends from NH, Frisia, MB, Chaos and HOC. Don't take it personal.
Good lord, someone clearly got into my forum account AND my whiskey last night.
Taser has the right of it, just a little venting and sharing the way it went down from my perspective.
Much love to my old friends from NH, Frisia, MB, Chaos and HOC. Don't take it personal.
Taser has the right of it
Taser has the right of it
Taser has the right of it
Taser has the right of it
We all know you're a bit touchy on the ehonour front, Relit. But your Allies seem to have gained a bunch of land off of what was formerly TVE without a word to us. Bonesaw being a drunken 'tard shouldn't have voided the respect between our factions, and still hasn't. In my personal opinion, which this thread speaks of, you acquired de jure land from our empire without discussing it with us. By the laws of CK2, sure, they were retarded rebelling vassals, but a reasonable diplomatic person would consider that before annexing a part of my Empire.Give it up nerd, mod's dead.
Edit: Honestly, were it up to me, your faction would make concessions before they continued to be run around being the ONLY faction allowed to trade our S&D. We'll see what Tristran says when he's back in town.
Give it up nerd, mod's dead.
sandy and all of frisia are all fkn vassels to cup clan, get ur facts m8.Ever since Cup Clan took over Raven, I have secretly been spreading my power and soon Cup Clan will be the strongest shadow faction in all of strategus
#cupclanbestclan
Ever since Cup Clan took over Raven, I have secretly been spreading my power and soon Cup Clan will be the strongest shadow faction in all of strategus
By anouncing the cup clan it is no longer a shadow faction. I'm sorry but your goal for glory has failed.I only announced it because it is too late to stop me! HaHa! Now that I have Nova Amere to produce an umlimited amount of cups and nord nobleman outfits I am unstoppable
The TKoV, Occi and SS Cf still applies, it still doesn't end for several months, Would you like for me to ignore it and declare my personal declaration in support of FCC before tristran gets back? Whatever way the cookie crumbles, tkov is independent (to YOUR advantage) and you assholes have broken it in attacking our vassals at our doorstep. If and when we attack Saren, your involvement in the defense, should you insist, will be taken into account. You have no place to be attacking our vassals, albeit rebelling, on our doorstep. Much less to hand it over to CN's which will refuse our diplomacy and take our S&D without a word. It is in fact strictly contrary to the treaty we have signed with your overlords.As HoC was your vassal, TKoV should have been leading the attack on them (HoC) when HoC decided to attack another clan that you were friendly with. Instead you idled by in your inactive empire and just let it go on. Now you're suddenly surprised a month after the fact, that Raven's allies stepped in to lend them a hand in the destruction of HoC? I don't see how attacking Saren violated whatever deal you thought you had with SS. It was pretty clear to all of NA that HoC was no longer following your lead but doing their own thing. I wouldn't even consider them you're vassals anymore. You pretty much said it yourself, Bonesaw wasn't listening to you. Like I said, you should have been the first one to attack HoC when they rebelled. Oh, and I don't even think we sold Saren to Blood, as soon as we saw what a shitty fief it was, we just gave it to them fo free. We had no interest in taking fiefs, only wiping HoC for attacking our allies (and yours as well).
As HoC was your vassal, TKoV should have been leading the attack on them (HoC) when HoC decided to attack another clan that you were friendly with. Instead you idled by in your inactive empire and just let it go on. Now you're suddenly surprised a month after the fact, that Raven's allies stepped in to lend them a hand in the destruction of HoC? I don't see how attacking Saren violated whatever deal you thought you had with SS. It was pretty clear to all of NA that HoC was no longer following your lead but doing their own thing. I wouldn't even consider them you're vassals anymore. You pretty much said it yourself, Bonesaw wasn't listening to you. Like I said, you should have been the first one to attack HoC when they rebelled. Oh, and I don't even think we sold Saren to Blood, as soon as we saw what a shitty fief it was, we just gave it to them fo free. We had no interest in taking fiefs, only wiping HoC for attacking our allies (and yours as well).
HoC's land stopped being a part of your empire the minute they decided to do their own thing.
EDIT: My bad, didn't bother reading past the first page until AFTER I posted this.
I think he means Frisia helping Raven as allies, and then SS & Frisia are allied.
SS isn't a strategus entity anymore, it's been replaced by FUPA. And none of us hate any of you guys....Wrong, I hate EVERYONE, especially Pibb, who missed one of the most fun strat battles ever.
Wait what? Ravens and semenstorm are allies??? When did that happen? I thought you guys hated each other.We are on good terms, not allies, sorry, poor wording on my part, but I was also referring to LCO.
We are on good terms, not allies, sorry, poor wording on my part, but I was also referring to LCO.
Ravens are allied to LCO?
Ravens are allied to LCO?
Can I be a vassal of someone? If you want to you can tell me what to do and instead of doing it I'll just keep afking in the fief
Ravens are allied to LCO?I give up.
I give up.
Ravens are allied to LCO?
Well....
A Raven family member drank a little much one night and had a little fun with an FCC member, thus forcing them into marriage.
FCC stole some radishes from TAA's garden and came back with radish pie, they decided that the eating of the delish is radish pie would seal an alliance.
Raven is allied with dracul because, well, fuck raven.
Frisia declared war on various rodents in dracul lands, extinguished them, and now they owe Frisia big time.(to the point of an alliance)
Frisian members (sandy and cikel) polished arrowaine's cane many a time and now arrowaine has fallen in love and will not allow Frisia to fight alone.
Chevalier members won a desert-wide kickball tournament while making SS, FUPA, and Australis buddies alone the way.
Aldo had a murder boner that could only be hidden if jack sat on it. (Another loving relationship)
Tkov members decided they wanted to be friends with hospitaller and joined in one group hug of loving friendship and created life long bonds with each other through campfire s'mores and catching fish out of ponds.
The hospitaller corp. decided they wanted to invest in a condom factory and employed many chaos members.
Canary was very pleased that the rodents were done stealing his birdseed and would never finish thanking Frisia for it.
And FPF has been jerking off since the start.
So basically everybody is allied to everybody. So Occitan is allied to raven. And there should be no war. Because we're all allied. Except those apple people. Fuck those guys.
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Can I be a vassal of someone? If you want to you can tell me what to do and instead of doing it I'll just keep afking in the fief
why does this exist