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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Zeniues on August 01, 2013, 12:44:34 pm

Title: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Zeniues on August 01, 2013, 12:44:34 pm
This is currently my favourite game, I always used to play games that had melee skill based gaming, if I could had any wish fulfilled in terms of gaming, it would be to have a MMO based on the M&B combat system and the Conquest of Calradia, attacking, defending, sieges and so on. However, since that's probably not going to happen, let's work with what we already have.

CRPG is a great mod, no doubt about that, but it's obvious that developers aren't being paid enough to dedicate more time into it, much needed balancing, adding new armours, new gametypes and overall improvements. But I would like to see this mod get some more love. And once M&B: Bannerlord comes out, i'd also love to see a new CRPG mod.

So what about the idea of a COMPLETELY OPTIONAL monthly fee for those who want to support the devs?

This would allow the devs to give us more balancing, more new stuff, better and deeper mechanics in strat and in combat, faster reaction to the playerbases wishes, basically; more fun.

And why not? Many of us play this game at least 3-4 hours everyday.

I personally have paid for MMO's before that had way lower entertainment value than CRPG. Games such as WoW.

I would gladly throw 100$ every month just to get more love for my favorite mod, and i'm sure there are people out there who'd love to drop 10$, 30$ or 50$ as well. Everything counts.

This contributes to this enjoyable community, it would make a greater game and thus help the playerbase to grow bigger, and it would give the devs a motivation to make a new CRPG when M&B 2 comes out.

We pay so much money every year for games that turn out to be shit, why not pay some to one we know is good?

Of course it would be COMPLETELY OPTIONAL, and anyone who didn't want to pay, wouldn't have to, and they wouldn't miss out on anything, no premium features, or any of that nonsense.

How do people feel about this?
Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Tot. on August 01, 2013, 12:49:59 pm
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Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: [ptx] on August 01, 2013, 12:52:27 pm
^
Just donate.
Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Vibe on August 01, 2013, 12:53:06 pm
crpg premium +50% xp rate +20% damage +10% stagger + a testicle-shaped hat 13€/mo
Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Zeniues on August 01, 2013, 12:53:26 pm
That's entirely different Tot, this isn't about pay to play, this is about a monthly income for the devs to facilitate a better game. The donation system works in an entirely different way, and doesn't encourage recurring payment, if someone donates they'll most likely donate once, because they know that even if they donate more than once, most people will not, and as such nothing real will change.

I just want to emphasize, that this is has no correlation with a donation system at all. Donations are a way to thank someone for doing something. Monthly fee is a contract for a service; improving the mod. If you compare those two things then you've misunderstood my point.

Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: [ptx] on August 01, 2013, 12:54:50 pm
wat.
Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Zeniues on August 01, 2013, 12:56:11 pm
Quote from: [ptx] on August 01, 2013, 12:54:50 pm
wat.

What is unclear in what I just said?
Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: [ptx] on August 01, 2013, 12:57:43 pm
You fail to make a point, how is an OPTIONAL MONTHLY FEE (EMPHASIS ON OPTIONAL) different from just a recurring donation?

(protip: it is not, except for making devs waste time on something redundant.)
Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Boerenlater on August 01, 2013, 12:58:04 pm
Quote from: Zeniues on August 01, 2013, 12:56:11 pm
What is unclear in what I just said?
Just save your money to buy M:BG in the future.
Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Zeniues on August 01, 2013, 12:59:35 pm
Quote from: [ptx] on August 01, 2013, 12:57:43 pm
You fail to make a point, how is an OPTIONAL MONTHLY FEE (EMPHASIS ON OPTIONAL) different from just a recurring donation?



Are you serious?
Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Prpavi on August 01, 2013, 01:00:11 pm
Your suggestion is not that bad but it will never happen for reasons I am not able to disclose   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Paul on August 01, 2013, 01:06:49 pm
Then donate monthly. The common devs don't see any money of this though because it all goes into server rent and maybe chadz' beer belly. We do things in our free time as a hobby, for free and we do, purely motivation based, what we like to do. A monthly payment would lead to demands. Don't think I would like that. Ok, people have demands now too but I can spit on that and add completely unrelated stuff to piss them off. I like that. "Dagger fast draw" next patch btw.
Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Strudog on August 01, 2013, 01:08:30 pm
I think it has been proved how grateful the whole community is that they set up this mod. In regards to the new game that they are developing they have raised close to €40,000 (from a community of a few hundred) just from the c-rpg community and i believe that's more than enough dedication from the Community.

C-rpg will always be a free to play mod like most mode out there, The Devs have show their worth and how much belief we as a community believe in them no matter how many times we call them shit on the forums.

So in short the answer is NO.
Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Polobow on August 01, 2013, 01:13:06 pm
Quote from: Paul on August 01, 2013, 01:06:49 pm
Ok, people have demands now too but I can spit on that and add completely unrelated stuff to piss them off. I like that. "Dagger fast draw" next patch btw.

Win.
Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on August 01, 2013, 01:21:38 pm
Quote from: Vibe on August 01, 2013, 12:53:06 pm
crpg premium +50% xp rate +20% damage +10% stagger + a testicle-shaped hat 13€/mo

Well, Tom Cruise looks very happy with his new shiny hat!

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Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Panos_ on August 01, 2013, 01:44:30 pm
Quote from: Paul on August 01, 2013, 01:06:49 pm
Ok, people have demands now too but I can spit on that and add completely unrelated stuff to piss them off. I like that. "Dagger fast draw" next patch btw.

Add some 0 skills heraldic shields please.
Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Elindor on August 01, 2013, 04:05:54 pm
Quote from: Zeniues on August 01, 2013, 12:44:34 pm
...I always used to play games that had melee skill based gaming...Games such as WoW.

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Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: pingpong on August 01, 2013, 05:34:07 pm
Quote from: Zeniues on August 01, 2013, 12:44:34 pm
How do people feel about this?

I feel that flaming katana desire that made you write this thread.
Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Rumblood on August 01, 2013, 06:01:17 pm
There is a legal distinction between a donation and a fee.  :idea:
Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Miwiw on August 01, 2013, 06:02:29 pm
A monthly fee for a small game like this would never pay out PLUS Taleworlds would request some payments as well I bet (after all warband is still their game and a mod doesnt make a new game).
Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on August 01, 2013, 06:17:05 pm
I just don't know where to begin:
First off, this is a MOD. It is based on an existing commercial game, which renders it somehow illegal to make money off of it in the proposed way.

Secondly, the developers are all devout players of this game. They put their efforts in it for the love of the game itself and the community alike.

Third point is that you can always make donations to them if you wish to aid them. Does this not sound like an "optional monthly fee" to you?


I can see that your will is good and all you wanted to do was put on the table some supportive suggestion, but it really doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Zeniues on August 01, 2013, 07:12:41 pm
@Elindor if you seriously want to know what games I was talking about, you can ask, otherwise i'll consider your post as an attempt to be one of da cool kidz.

@To everyone else, i'll admit this wasn't very thought out, but things don't always need to be, the baseline here is that what CRPG developers have made created in combination with the taleworlds game, is free product much better than anything i've actually ever paid for. At the end of the day, I just wish there was a M&B MMO, and I guess that's never going to happen. I love the encouraged social aspects of an MMO but they lack the dynamic and thrilling combat of M&B to keep me playing. If those two were ever mixed I could get a str crutch gf, get on wellfare, and never leave the house again.

Oh well, a man can dream.
Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Swaggart on August 01, 2013, 07:22:34 pm
Oh god not another internet intellectual.
Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Zeniues on August 01, 2013, 07:30:20 pm
Quote from: Swaggart on August 01, 2013, 07:22:34 pm
Oh god not another internet intellectual.

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Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Prpavi on August 01, 2013, 07:41:34 pm
Quote from: ASGUARDIAN on August 01, 2013, 06:17:05 pm


Secondly, the developers are all devout players of this game.


This one cracked me up, sig worthy for sure! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Oberyn on August 01, 2013, 07:45:55 pm
Quote
if I could had any wish fulfilled in terms of gaming, it would be to have a MMO based on the M&B combat system and the Conquest of Calradia, attacking, defending, sieges and so on. However, since that's probably not going to happen, let's work with what we already have.

Tbf, an MMO with MB style combat does sound completely amazing. You totally lose me at the "let's turn cRPG, a mod, into that". If Battlegrounds is in any way similar to this idea, I'll be very happy. Strat tried it more or less, but the fact that it's browser based and not integrated directly into the game doesn't make it feel very MMO.
Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Daunt_Flockula on August 01, 2013, 08:40:20 pm
Quote from: Prpavi on August 01, 2013, 07:41:34 pm
This one cracked me up, sig worthy for sure! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

"Used to be" let's say  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Tibe on August 01, 2013, 08:43:23 pm
Quote from: Zeniues on August 01, 2013, 07:12:41 pm
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I liked your enthusiasm. But yea, your suggestion made like zero sense. Pay optionally a monthly fee for a mod thats free and that can be  donated to(aka paying optionally).

Also I doubt you are the first person to think that MMO M&B would be epic. I think everybody has thought about it at some point. If you think hard enough you start realising that the MMO as a genre is complete shit that even M&B combat wouldnt save and you drop the idea.
Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Elindor on August 01, 2013, 09:35:23 pm
Quote from: Zeniues on August 01, 2013, 07:12:41 pm
@Elindor if you seriously want to know what games I was talking about, you can ask, otherwise i'll consider your post as an attempt to be one of da cool kidz.

There is no try, only do.
Title: Re: Optional Monthly Fee
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on August 01, 2013, 09:52:24 pm
Quote from: Vibe on August 01, 2013, 12:53:06 pm
crpg premium +50% xp rate +20% damage +10% stagger + a testicle-shaped hat 13€/mo
would buy