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Strategus => Diplomacy => Topic started by: woody on July 19, 2013, 02:32:00 am

Title: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: woody on July 19, 2013, 02:32:00 am
We regret to announce a further string of disheartening battles at the hands of the Mercs.

Under the inspired leadership of great Haboe the Mercs have lessened their defensive obligations in an inspired move by choosing to give away Sargoth in addition to the previous re-organisations.

They have also massively reduced the upkeep costs by deliberately reducing their troop numbers. Please use the chart function on archive battles over the last 4 weeks to fully appreciate the effectiveness of this move.

They also have given a further 1.7 million of gold to one of the disgraceful ganker clans, which will cause contention amoung us Merc enemies. As has all the previous millions lost to us.

Despite the now acknowledged genius of Haboes strategy we ashamed ganker clans will struggle on against the brilliance of the merc clan.
Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: BASNAK on July 19, 2013, 02:34:44 am
Uh please stop making new threads about the same war. Can't you just keep all the drama in one thread?
It's not as entertaining when I have to go through 5 different threads for a giggle.
Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: Fips on July 19, 2013, 03:06:42 am
For fucks sake, stop making threads already. It's getting ridiculous.
Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: woody on July 19, 2013, 01:49:13 pm
Thanks again for your opinion Fips as valued as ever.
Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: Strudog on July 19, 2013, 01:54:34 pm
The wolves are obviously compensating for something.....

Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: Strudog on July 19, 2013, 02:00:10 pm
We regret to announce a further string of disheartening battles at the hands of the Mercs.

Under the inspired leadership of great Haboe the Mercs have lessened their defensive obligations in an inspired move by choosing to give away Sargoth in addition to the previous re-organisations.

They have also massively reduced the upkeep costs by deliberately reducing their troop numbers. Please use the chart function on archive battles over the last 4 weeks to fully appreciate the effectiveness of this move.

They also have given a further 1.7 million of gold to one of the disgraceful ganker clans, which will cause contention amoung us Merc enemies. As has all the previous millions lost to us.

Despite the now acknowledged genius of Haboes strategy we ashamed ganker clans will struggle on against the brilliance of the merc clan.

If you add up all the attackers percentage it comes to 31.6%

And the Apostates have lost 31.1%

GG
Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: Vermilion on July 19, 2013, 02:32:51 pm
If you add up all the attackers percentage it comes to 31.6%

And the Apostates have lost 31.1%

GG

WHAT???? Have you actually been winning some of the battles where you have 1000's of troops defending a town/castle?

Something is wrong here... we better get the Dev's to fix this immediately
Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: Strudog on July 19, 2013, 03:06:30 pm
WHAT???? Have you actually been winning some of the battles where you have 1000's of troops defending a town/castle?

Something is wrong here... we better get the Dev's to fix this immediately

He has been boasting about the great losses on our side and that we lost 31.1% of the troops in the last 4 weeks, so i merely pointed out that in fact they have lost more, and that he should get his facts straight
Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: Latvian on July 19, 2013, 03:13:51 pm
when you make next thread about same war i will have to count all threads.
Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 19, 2013, 03:51:33 pm
when you make next thread about same war i will have to count all threads.

Thanks for sharing Latvian, sounds like a nice project - have fun doing that :)
Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 19, 2013, 04:11:53 pm
He has been boasting about the great losses on our side and that we lost 31.1% of the troops in the last 4 weeks, so i merely pointed out that in fact they have lost more, and that he should get his facts straight

That statistic is based on garrison troops or it's based on all time numbers cause that wasn't what I got, even adding up Cotgs, Wolves, Grey Order.
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Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: Strudog on July 19, 2013, 04:16:12 pm
That statistic is based on garrison troops or it's based on all time numbers cause that wasn't what I got, even adding up Cotgs, Wolves, Grey Order.
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Kapilkulus, Balde, Ecorchers
Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 19, 2013, 04:19:17 pm
Then we should count Coalition on your side for total losses, since Kapi's were(are?) fighting Coalition during that same time period.

Counting the 2 week period:
Echoro - 1.5
FPoF - 1 (not really as they NA)
Kapi - 7.8
Cotgs -  6.1
Balde - 1.6
Wolves - 9
GO -10.3
Barabe - 1.4
(can't find Karluk)
So = 37.7

Versus
Apostates -26.4
Coalition - 9.8
Conquistadores - 2.3
So = 38.5

past 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: Strudog on July 19, 2013, 04:21:27 pm
He was talking about Mercs, plus the the thing is you cant clarify what was lost where, so its actually pretty inaccurate. For all we know they Greys lost 14% fighting the Coalition and so on
Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: vipere on July 19, 2013, 04:22:00 pm
Ecrouchers

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89corcheurs

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfofactiondetail&id=240

http://www.linternaute.com/dictionnaire/fr/definition/ecorcheur/

THANKS   apoussttate

PS :

Kapilkulus, Balde, Ecorchers

Almost, one more letter !
Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 19, 2013, 04:26:56 pm
He was talking about Mercs, plus the the thing is you cant clarify what was lost where, so its actually pretty inaccurate. For all we know they Greys lost 14% fighting the Coalition and so on

In that case, you only take wolves, but you're correct, you can't see individual. So, gotta sum em all.

It's basically been equal over the past 2 weeks, roughly.
Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: Strudog on July 19, 2013, 04:29:34 pm
This is a better look at it

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So it has been pretty even
Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: Falka on July 19, 2013, 04:30:09 pm
When coalition wiped the floor with 6 kapi's armies they didn't make a single post about it...  :rolleyes:

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Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: Strudog on July 19, 2013, 04:32:23 pm
Falka its meant to be 4 weeks
Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 19, 2013, 04:33:20 pm
So yes. Basically 50/50. Exactly what I said.

4 weeks includes the mercs sneak attack on wolves. 2 weeks is there counterattack, unless it HAS been 4 weeks since they started their war....
Started roughly july 10th....
Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: Haboe on July 19, 2013, 04:33:51 pm
All those stats etc are fun and all, but don't forget it ONLY counts kills. So the sieges where they only managed to spend 1000 out of 1800, counts as 1000, yet they lost another 800. So even if the stats get close, we aren't losing nearly as much as the attackers  :lol:
Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: Lt_Anders on July 19, 2013, 04:35:17 pm
All those stats etc are fun and all, but don't forget it ONLY counts kills. So the sieges where they only managed to spend 1000 out of 1800, counts as 1000, yet they lost another 800. So even if the stats get close, we aren't losing nearly as much as the attackers  :lol:

Incorrect, in the case of defender flag capping. Fiefs get fully counted.
Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: Falka on July 19, 2013, 04:44:11 pm
All those stats etc are fun and all, but don't forget it ONLY counts kills. So the sieges where they only managed to spend 1000 out of 1800, counts as 1000, yet they lost another 800. So even if the stats get close, we aren't losing nearly as much as the attackers  :lol:

Yup, according to diagram attackers lost 7 100 tickets trying to capture Sargoth, but as a matter of fact they've lost 9 000 trops. Though the number of defenders isn't correct either.
Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: Vermilion on July 19, 2013, 04:47:20 pm
Yup, according to diagram attackers lost 7 100 tickets trying to capture Sargoth, but as a matter of fact they've lost 9 000 trops. Though the number of defenders isn't correct either.

But they also gained 1154 when they took Sargoth. Is that take into your calculations?
Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: Haboe on July 19, 2013, 04:48:43 pm
Incorrect, in the case of defender flag capping. Fiefs get fully counted.

Fief maybe, didn't check that, but attacking army's only get their deaths counted. The leftovers (which magically die/ desert) are not on the charts.


For verm, they gained way less then they lost troops, + all they won is pop, which is barely usefull and regenerates anyway.
Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: Vermilion on July 19, 2013, 04:54:42 pm
I know it's pop which they can't remove but for you to try and take it back you will have to fight against that pop..

So it could be considered that a 1000 of the troops they lost are now just tied up in a fief defending it.. As long as they have an active lord (to prevent raids) these troops can be armed
Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on July 19, 2013, 05:36:02 pm
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Oh fuck you admins, all these people bitching and spamming and being generally useless cunts, and you hit me with a warning for this picture...how are half these posts "diplomacy" related? 
Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: GRANDMOM on July 19, 2013, 09:17:47 pm
Fief maybe, didn't check that, but attacking army's only get their deaths counted. The leftovers (which magically die/ desert) are not on the charts.


For verm, they gained way less then they lost troops, + all they won is pop, which is barely usefull and regenerates anyway.

In Rivacheg when we killed all the pop it mattered alot, its funny watching how all is really going Hobbits way - no matter what happens - he just changes his approach like a politician

* loosing fiefs - "nah we didnt need them anyway" or " we dont really care anymore"
* loosing a castle "well we wasnt really using it"
* loosing S/D " well CFA was mostly using it anyway"
* loosing battles " well, u have to look at the campaign"
* loosing a campaign " well, we were just being friendly and decided u should have a second chance - thank Casimir"

"But we are still basically kicking the shit out of everybody with our mighty hammer we will wield....not now........but later......and then you will see"
Title: Re: Forced to "Recognise"
Post by: Lizard_man on July 19, 2013, 09:32:51 pm
Yawn... You're on repeat again, and it's getting boring...