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Title: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2slot
Post by: Shanghai_Brave on July 02, 2013, 05:29:58 am
日本弓的长度和长弓差不多了。 而且日本非骑射民族,也不是弓箭民族。老看见有人拿着日本弓玩骑射。多奇怪啊? 为什么不和长弓一样变成2格?

JAPAN NOT ARCHERY NATIONS        NOT HORSE ARCHERY NATIONS


JAPAN BOW=2 slots,   DONT 1SLOTS       

Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2 slot?
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格????
Post by: BlueKnight on July 02, 2013, 05:37:22 am
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Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格????
Post by: Son Of Odin on July 02, 2013, 05:39:18 am
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Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格????
Post by: Silfarion on July 02, 2013, 06:08:14 am
Translating

The length of the longbow and the yumi are almost the same. And Japan and Africa are archery nations, not bow nations (wat). I saw someone holding a Japanese bow playing Archery. How strange ah? Why not become a longbow with 2 slots?

I think I got like, 50% of it correct
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格????
Post by: StormFaction on July 02, 2013, 07:33:14 am
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Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格????
Post by: ToxicKilla on July 02, 2013, 08:17:10 am
Shōgun no tame ni, BANZAAAI!

No but seriously,
Translating

The length of the longbow and the yumi are almost the same. And Japan and Africa are archery nations, not bow nations (wat). I saw someone holding a Japanese bow playing Archery. How strange ah? Why not become a longbow with 2 slots?

I think I got like, 50% of it correct

If that's what it says, I think the op means make the yumi bow two slots? If that's what the op means, then that's a dumbass idea because then you can't use the yumi, arrows and katana all at once, = my samurai alt is fucked.
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格????
Post by: Shanghai_Brave on July 02, 2013, 11:20:58 am
Translating

The length of the longbow and the yumi are almost the same. And Japan and Africa are archery nations, not bow nations (wat). I saw someone holding a Japanese bow playing Archery. How strange ah? Why not become a longbow with 2 slots?

I think I got like, 50% of it correct
GOOD

JAPAN NOT ARCHERY NATIONS        NOT HORSE ARCHERY NATIONS


JAPAN BOW=2 slots,   DONT 1SLOTS       
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格????
Post by: Miwiw on July 02, 2013, 11:28:58 am
Nono,

Yumi needs 1 slot -> Horse Archery!

Yumi 需要一个槽马射箭!! :)
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格????
Post by: Shanghai_Brave on July 02, 2013, 11:33:08 am
JAPAN NOT ARCHERY NATIONS        NOT HORSE ARCHERY NATIONS


JAPAN BOW=2 slots,   DONT 1SLOTS       

Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2 slot?
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2slot
Post by: Miwiw on July 02, 2013, 11:41:05 am
If Yumi became 2 slot no one would use it. Even now only a few people use it. As Horse Archer it is not bad to have it 1 slot if you also want to carry a 1 slot weapon or 3 bags of arrows.
It's not balanced for infantry archers anyway.

Whenever I used it on foot it screwed up my shots. It is really doing what it wants. :P
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2slot
Post by: Shanghai_Brave on July 02, 2013, 11:47:07 am
If Yumi became 2 slot no one would use it. Even now only a few people use it. As Horse Archer it is not bad to have it 1 slot if you also want to carry a 1 slot weapon or 3 bags of arrows.
It's not balanced for infantry archers anyway.

Whenever I used it on foot it screwed up my shots. It is really doing what it wants. :P


The performance of Japanese bow than other 2 slot bow good,Speed
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2slot
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on July 02, 2013, 12:07:14 pm
As a proud native Japanese I reject this Chinese propaganda.
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2slot
Post by: Shanghai_Brave on July 02, 2013, 12:13:54 pm
With the Japanese bow riding a bike in the European armor not amused?
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2slot
Post by: Miwiw on July 02, 2013, 12:16:41 pm
cRPG - (almost) anything possible
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2slot
Post by: Paul on July 02, 2013, 12:22:19 pm
All this mad...
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2slot
Post by: Shanghai_Brave on July 02, 2013, 12:25:13 pm
cRPG - (almost) anything possible

Japanese bow to walk as the main way to use, this is the crux of the problem. Is that clear? Japan is not bow to ride a nation



日本弓以 步行  为主要使用方式,这个就是问题的关键。明白了吗? 日本也不是弓骑民族
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2slot
Post by: NuberT on July 02, 2013, 12:42:08 pm
its signed,

i can only approved.


nah seriously, yumi on horseback looks dumb and makes no sense at all.
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2slot
Post by: Paul on July 02, 2013, 01:33:50 pm
The yumi is an asymmetric bow. I read several different theories why it was designed that way. One is that it allowed the short Japanese footmen (Chinese called them dwarves at that time)  to use longer bows - even while kneeling. Another theory is that it was used on horseback with having an easier time changing aiming direction over the neck of the horse than with a symmetric (long) bow. We went with the last one. Deal with it.
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2slot
Post by: Sir_Hans on July 04, 2013, 11:43:55 am
I played Shogun 2 and it had horse archers!

The proof is in the pudding!  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2slot
Post by: Berserkadin on July 04, 2013, 11:52:05 am
its signed,

i can only approved.


nah seriously, yumi on horseback looks dumb and makes no sense at all.
Fun fact, samurais where mainly horse archers who fought on horseback with a Yumi, but I guess they did it because it sucked so fucking hard. It makes sense but maybe not in your narrow eurocentric mind.
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2slot
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on July 04, 2013, 12:48:54 pm
你好,美应保持一个插槽,因为马的弓箭手共同在日本封建美弓代表这个。

Google translate. Let's see what happens.
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2slot
Post by: Shadowren on July 04, 2013, 02:08:47 pm
如果弓两个插槽,那么没有人会用它.  :D

 它能够更好地保持它的方式是现在!
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2slot
Post by: NuberT on July 06, 2013, 01:04:45 am
Fun fact, samurais where mainly horse archers who fought on horseback with a Yumi, but I guess they did it because it sucked so fucking hard. It makes sense but maybe not in your narrow eurocentric mind.

Never said samurais didnt use bows on horseback, but I doubt they used the 2 m versions we are having in crpg..
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2slot
Post by: Miwiw on July 06, 2013, 01:16:06 am
They did. It was also made for that.

Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yabusame
http://matadornetwork.com/sports/an-intro-to-japanese-archery/
http://amoderngirl.wordpress.com/2012/12/06/yabusame-the-japanese-art-of-mounted-archery/
http://www.unmissablejapan.com/events/yabusame
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2slot
Post by: NuberT on July 06, 2013, 11:42:32 pm
they really do/did :rolleyes:

Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2slot
Post by: Matey on July 07, 2013, 12:02:30 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf3QRc_OShE
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2slot
Post by: Phantasmal on July 07, 2013, 08:19:06 am
Oh! I get to put my class on Japanese Samurai History to use! (surprise!) The basic beginnings of the samurai were as mounted horse archers used to mostly drive off bandits (if I remember correctly). They were primarily utilized for their mobility. The modern conception of samurai lays much more emphasis on the sword rather than the bow (which is why you may believe they are not a bow and arrow people).
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2slot
Post by: Germanicus on July 09, 2013, 02:56:53 pm
japan is the people of kamikaze, add a mechanic that if people wear japanese armor while riding a horse explode when they ram someone
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2s
Post by: George_of_Nottingham on July 09, 2013, 04:32:54 pm
cRPG - (almost) anything possible
only for Samurais and other eastern shit. but this is crpg. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2s
Post by: Miwiw on July 09, 2013, 04:42:16 pm
only for Samurais and other eastern shit. but this is crpg. :rolleyes:

What do you mean?
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2s
Post by: George_of_Nottingham on July 10, 2013, 12:09:45 am
for a normal european styled 2handed fighter it isn't possible to take a crossbow, or a longbow. but for the Samurai/ninja idiots it is possible to take the Yumi with katana. thats what i mean.
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2slot
Post by: Miwiw on July 10, 2013, 12:17:33 am
There's a fkin reason why Yumi is 1 slot. After all it doesnt matter really as there are 0 slot weapons anyway now. However Yumi is meant as a HA bow in first case. And HAs need more arrows than any foot archer.

It doesnt matter if some stupid katana guy can take it plus the katana. Who cares about that. Anyway, 2h GS + Long/Rus Bow doesnt fit anyway. You'll never have enough wpf for both (or even stat points for a good build for both ranged/melee).

Did you even ever play with Yumi? While being on foot you really wish to have any other bow. Yumi is great on horse but awful on foot.
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2slot
Post by: Built on July 10, 2013, 04:15:37 am
ITS NOT AN ARCHER, ITS A 2HANDER IN DISGUISE TRYING TO GET A NERF!
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2s
Post by: George_of_Nottingham on July 10, 2013, 12:41:55 pm
the slot system sucks. without it was better. and why should it be ok that the horse archers can take more arrows. that's why there are so many.
CRPG is more and more a counterstrike.
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2s
Post by: Memento_Mori on July 10, 2013, 05:45:38 pm
the slot system sucks. without it was better. and why should it be ok that the horse archers can take more arrows. that's why there are so many.
CRPG is more and more a counterstrike.

Did Horse Archery just get compared to Counter Strike?

That's clearly an accurate comparison.
Title: Re: 为什么日本弓不变成2格?Japanese bow carrying is not convenient, why not set into the 2s
Post by: Berserkadin on July 10, 2013, 06:53:59 pm
for a normal european styled 2handed fighter it isn't possible to take a crossbow, or a longbow. but for the Samurai/ninja idiots it is possible to take the Yumi with katana. thats what i mean.
You can take a hunting crossbow, or the short bow wich both require 1 slot.