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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Miley on June 30, 2013, 06:00:36 am

Title: Bows Back to Normal?
Post by: Miley on June 30, 2013, 06:00:36 am
Y/N?

Especially since the hunting bow is as good as the war bow in every way and more now.
Title: Re: Bows Back to Normal?
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on June 30, 2013, 04:32:37 pm
no
Title: Re: Bows Back to Normal?
Post by: Dalfador on June 30, 2013, 06:34:57 pm
I say no... a lot of the bows that were absolutely pathetic now are a reasonable choice for archers. Instead of it going from crappy bows to good bows, now every bow is good in it's own way, allowing the archer to play how he/she wants. I like this change and I'm not even an archer.
Title: Re: Bows Back to Normal?
Post by: Miley on June 30, 2013, 08:55:08 pm
I say no... a lot of the bows that were absolutely pathetic now are a reasonable choice for archers. Instead of it going from crappy bows to good bows, now every bow is good in it's own way, allowing the archer to play how he/she wants. I like this change and I'm not even an archer.

Well what about no damage buff (by heirlooming) and just relatively useless point of looming bows? And the hunting bow is exactly the same as the war bow except better and less PD required.
Title: Re: Bows Back to Normal?
Post by: Jarold on June 30, 2013, 09:20:25 pm
It's a typo it actually is 28 not 30. Also stop calling the rus bow the war bow no one cares if you've been around when it was in!
Title: Re: Bows Back to Normal?
Post by: Tydeus on June 30, 2013, 10:59:33 pm
Well what about no damage buff (by heirlooming) and just relatively useless point of looming bows? And the hunting bow is exactly the same as the war bow except better and less PD required.
Any good archer that cares about accuracy will demand looms. A few points make quite a bit of difference.
Title: Re: Bows Back to Normal?
Post by: Kafein on June 30, 2013, 11:24:13 pm
Now the heirlooming bonuses for ranged weapons are more in line with melee weapons, and ammo heirlooming doesn't give a damage bonus anymore, so bows and xbows cannot be heirloomed to "+6" like before.
Title: Re: Bows Back to Normal?
Post by: Tydeus on July 01, 2013, 12:15:28 am
Now the heirlooming bonuses for ranged weapons are more in line with melee weapons, and ammo heirlooming doesn't give a damage bonus anymore, so bows and xbows cannot be heirloomed to "+6" like before.
Although it does make it more accessible, which to some is a complaint.
Title: Re: Bows Back to Normal?
Post by: Miley on July 01, 2013, 12:59:39 am
It's a typo it actually is 28 not 30. Also stop calling the rus bow the war bow no one cares if you've been around when it was in!

Make me. It's warbow and they changed it's name. I'll call it how it comes to me so I don't care what you have to say! #olderplayerthanu
Title: Re: Bows Back to Normal?
Post by: Miley on July 01, 2013, 01:00:55 am
Well I don't like some noob basically having a bow and arrows that's just as good as my +3 bow and arrows basically. Especially as a horse archer, the little tiny bit of extra accuracy doesn't help.
Title: Re: Bows Back to Normal?
Post by: Miley on July 01, 2013, 01:06:02 am
And why would the long bow shoot a missile slower than the war bow and all the smaller bows faster than a warbow?
Title: Re: Bows Back to Normal?
Post by: Mammonist on July 01, 2013, 06:47:46 am
Well I don't like some noob basically having a bow and arrows that's just as good as my +3 bow and arrows basically. Especially as a horse archer, the little tiny bit of extra accuracy doesn't help.
yes because actual noobs who are still getting used to the game deserve to fight with an extra handicap so they get killed by you
Title: Re: Bows Back to Normal?
Post by: Tydeus on July 01, 2013, 07:42:39 am
And why would the long bow shoot a missile slower than the war bow and all the smaller bows faster than a warbow?
Because physics and ammo weight simulation.
Title: Re: Bows Back to Normal?
Post by: Miley on July 01, 2013, 08:13:36 pm
Because physics and ammo weight simulation.

Wouldn't the bigger bows AKA the ones that require more POWER DRAW shoot an arrow faster? I don't get it.

yes because actual noobs who are still getting used to the game deserve to fight with an extra handicap so they get killed by you

If this isn't sarcasm then +1. If not, then:
Every noob deserves to go through what we all went through. People who have played long enough deserve to have the extra help of an actually helpful heirloom that they either payed a lot for or grinded for.
Title: Re: Bows Back to Normal?
Post by: Adalwulf on July 01, 2013, 08:53:22 pm
I say no... a lot of the bows that were absolutely pathetic now are a reasonable choice for archers. Instead of it going from crappy bows to good bows, now every bow is good in it's own way, allowing the archer to play how he/she wants. I like this change and I'm not even an archer.

THIS NEW BOW RUINED MY GAME PLAY STYLE. I CAN NO LONGER DRAW FAST ENOUGH IN MELEE TO STUN LOCK AN ENEMY. WHY MUST YOU ALWAYS FUCK WITH ARCHERY MECHANICS AND COMPLETLY RUIN THE WAY I LIKE TO PLAY THE GAME.

MW  BOW HAS SAME DAMAGE AND ACCURACY AS A NORMAL ONE? ONLY DIFFERENCE IS 2 MISSILE SPEED. WOOHOO WTF DID I GRIND FOR? FFS.

Regard this post as spam, I have quit archery. Good day.
Title: Re: Bows Back to Normal?
Post by: Kafein on July 01, 2013, 09:40:30 pm
I really don't get the point of completely moving some items from one category to the other. The bow was one of the weakest bows iirc. Now it's not the same item at all. This is like what happened to the black armor.
Title: Re: Bows Back to Normal?
Post by: Miley on July 02, 2013, 02:38:42 am
THIS NEW BOW RUINED MY GAME PLAY STYLE. I CAN NO LONGER DRAW FAST ENOUGH IN MELEE TO STUN LOCK AN ENEMY. WHY MUST YOU ALWAYS FUCK WITH ARCHERY MECHANICS AND COMPLETLY RUIN THE WAY I LIKE TO PLAY THE GAME.

MW  BOW HAS SAME DAMAGE AND ACCURACY AS A NORMAL ONE? ONLY DIFFERENCE IS 2 MISSILE SPEED. WOOHOO WTF DID I GRIND FOR? FFS.

Regard this post as spam, I have quit archery. Good day.

On point.

I really don't get the point of completely moving some items from one category to the other. The bow was one of the weakest bows iirc. Now it's not the same item at all. This is like what happened to the black armor.
Title: Re: Bows Back to Normal?
Post by: Jarold on July 02, 2013, 02:48:18 am
THIS NEW BOW RUINED MY GAME PLAY STYLE. I CAN NO LONGER DRAW FAST ENOUGH IN MELEE TO STUN LOCK AN ENEMY. WHY MUST YOU ALWAYS FUCK WITH ARCHERY MECHANICS AND COMPLETLY RUIN THE WAY I LIKE TO PLAY THE GAME.

MW  BOW HAS SAME DAMAGE AND ACCURACY AS A NORMAL ONE? ONLY DIFFERENCE IS 2 MISSILE SPEED. WOOHOO WTF DID I GRIND FOR? FFS.

Regard this post as spam, I have quit archery. Good day.

Look on the bright side you have a 0 slot falchion now. Also you could use the short bow, its faster then your bow was pre patch and it does more damage now, plus your tatar arrows do +2 more damage with a lot more arrows.

Oh but surely it is a loss.
Title: Re: Bows Back to Normal?
Post by: Miley on July 02, 2013, 04:55:50 am
Look on the bright side you have a 0 slot falchion now. Also you could use the short bow, its faster then your bow was pre patch and it does more damage now, plus your tatar arrows do +2 more damage with a lot more arrows.

Oh but surely it is a loss.

I think the losses and gains of the archery patch balance each other. But I think nothing should've been changed from last archery we had. Archery wasn't the problem--throwing, cav, etc. were.
Title: Re: Bows Back to Normal?
Post by: Jarold on July 02, 2013, 04:57:59 am
I liked archery the way it was too. I think the reason they did it was to make archery more accessible for everyone. But now we will experience more of a ranged fest. Atleast for a few weeks.
Title: Re: Bows Back to Normal?
Post by: Adalwulf on July 02, 2013, 05:26:48 am
Look on the bright side you have a 0 slot falchion now. Also you could use the short bow, its faster then your bow was pre patch and it does more damage now, plus your tatar arrows do +2 more damage with a lot more arrows.

Oh but surely it is a loss.

Jarold I know you don't know this but I had a +3 italian falchion and when they made all the 0 slotswords I requested for them to make italian falchion 0 slot. Guess what they said 3 months ago.....They fucked me then and they fucked me now because It traded it away for 2 loompoints and some gold.